New research report about the 2019 Apple iPhones would make Steve Jobs say "Yuck!"

New research report about the 2019 Apple iPhones would make Steve Jobs say
According to an analyst's note sent out to clients by Citi Research, the upcoming Apple iPhone 11 series could include a feature that will make the late Steve Jobs spin in his grave. As noted by Business Insider, the research arm of Citibank's Private Banking unit says that it expects to see "support for (an) iPhone pencil/stylus" with the new models expected to be unveiled in September. But remember, it is a rumor and a similar one made the rounds last August before the 2018 iPhones were introduced. Obviously, that report was inaccurate.

Back in January of 2007 when Jobs unveiled the original iPhone, he famously put down the use of a stylus in order to promote the touchscreen on the device. Jobs was talking about how iPhone users would be able to navigate around the UI when he said, "What are we going to do? Oh, a stylus, right? We're going to use a stylus. No. No. Who wants a stylus? You have to get 'em, put 'em away, you lose 'em. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus. So let's not use a stylus."

But the Apple Pencil was introduced in 2015 alongside the iPad Pro. Last year, Apple released a second-generation model that works with the 11-inch iPad Pro and the 12.9-inch iPad Pro (2018). The latter version charges on the tablet through the magnetic "Smart Connector."

Some of today's styluses are productivity tools and are more than just pointing devices

Citi also expects the 2019 iPhones to be equipped with a "bezel-free screen" no different than what the current lineup sports now. And the researchers at Citi say that the batteries on the new units will have higher capacities. Reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo has already told clients of TF International that he sees Apple including larger batteries this year because of the new reverse wireless feature that is rumored to be included with the 2019 iPhones.

Similar to the wireless PowerShare feature on the Samsung Galaxy S10 line, iPhone 11 users will reportedly be able to use the rear panel of their phone to wirelessly charge AirPods, the Apple Watch, or another compatible phone. Since this will tax the battery on the host handset, Kuo expects the iPhone 11 Max to sport a battery in the range of 3491mAh and 3650mAh; that would be a 10% to 15% hike from the battery powering the iPhone XS Max. The iPhone 11, according to Kuo, will carry a battery with a capacity between 3189mAh and 3322mAh for a 20% to 25% bump from the iPhone XS. And the iPhone 11R could be equipped with a 3089mAh battery, a small 5% increase from the one powering the iPhone XR. The latter already has the best battery life of any iPhone ever.

Citi's report also says that the FaceTime camera will go from 7MP to 10MP on the upcoming models, with 14MP cameras on the back. The OLED models will both sport three sensors housed inside the square camera module based on previous rumors and renders. There will be a primary camera, a telephoto, and a wide-angle camera. The iPhone 11R will have both a primary and a telephoto camera in the back.

Pricing of the 2019 phones, according to Citi Research, will remain the same. The 6.5-inch iPhone 11 Max will start at $1,099. The 5.8-inch iPhone 11 will be priced at $999 and up, and the basic model of the iPhone 11R will cost $749. While not mentioned by Citi, we expect Apple to toss an 18W fast charger in the box (previously a $29 extra) along with a Type-C to Lightning dongle.

While the stylus, for the most part, has been dead and buried, it has shown up as the S Pen on Samsung's Galaxy Note handsets, and LG has its popular Stylo series. But accessories like the S Pen and the Apple Pencil are more than just mere pointing devices. They are productivity tools that users can employ to get things done. Perhaps Steve Jobs wouldn't be so quick after all to dismiss iPhone support for the Apple Pencil.



1. User123456789

Posts: 1084; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Am I feeling PA excited to see pen for iphones? Would be weird after saying Samsung should drop it.

5. AngelicusMaximus

Posts: 747; Member since: Dec 20, 2017

That was an opinion piece by one writer. Another writer shared the opposite opinion the next day.

15. joshuaswingle

Posts: 644; Member since: Apr 03, 2018

Thank you!! Finally, somebody that understands that PA doesn't have one collective opinion.

18. Vancetastic

Posts: 1699; Member since: May 17, 2017

I thought you were all one person...

22. oldskool50 unregistered

False. You do have a collective opinion. You all think the iPhone is better than anything else sold on the market.

16. Subie

Posts: 2415; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

AngelicusMaximus is right. Here's a link to the rebuttal:

21. oldskool50 unregistered

PA didn't say Samsung should drop the pen. The dumb-dee-dumb-dumb Victor the Samsung hater said it.

2. iloveapps

Posts: 909; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

I don’t know if there’s a benefit of using apple pencil to a smaller screen but I love using it my 11” ipad pro.

3. Koeos

Posts: 16; Member since: Feb 19, 2018

Reverse wireless power share and stylus, Apple igalaxy 11.

6. MsPooks

Posts: 207; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

They shouldn't do it. That's the sort of reason why Apple is losing sales and mindshare. S-pen support just screams "Note ripoff." I have a buddy who used to gloat about his beautiful iPhones, while I had HTCs, Palms, and Samsungs. But then, little by little, he started seeing that Apple started to copy all the features those phones of mine had had for at least two years. Needless to say, he doesn't gloat any more; now he sticks with Apple simply because he's too afraid to abandon the ecosystem.

7. Vokilam

Posts: 1343; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

I’m pretty sure that haters will purposely misunderstand what Steve meant about “NEEDING” a stylus to navigate versus “HAVING” the option for a stylus for productivity. Let me explain (again). The stylus that Steve Jobs referred to was the stylus from old PDAs - where typing or navigating with just a finger was a pain in the ass - you had to use a stylus to get anything done on those. The stylus that’s found on Note series or LG stylo devices is different - it’s to further your productivity and abilities on a touch screen device. Samsung note is great only because of the s-pen and the features associated with it. And this is the reason I’m extremely happy that this rumor is circling - I love s-pen and only wish to have similar on iOS device.

17. blingblingthing

Posts: 979; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

It still fits Apple's history well. They made bold claims, some were right and some were wrong. Getting rid of the keyboard - right call. No one wants a stylus, wrong. They clearly didn't see any productivity benefits with one which is why they dismissed it. They figured going from resistive to capacitive touchscreens was the all you need solution. Unless you're saying they knew if the productivity benefits of one but knew iPhone users didn't need that much productivity all these years. What's about the fallacy of the 3.5 inch screen being perfect? Don't fool yourself, Steve jobs didn't see smartphones beyond 3.5-4.0 inches. That's why you wouldn't need a stylus as he didn't see that level of productivity being needed. That's the history of tech, a newcomer gets something right, then gets something wrong which another newcomer fixes. Remember blackberry and Sony from their glory days.

20. Vokilam

Posts: 1343; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Once again - this guy is a prime example of what CNN does. Steve meant that no one wants a stylus AS A PRIMARY INPUT DEVICE. We know this because he was posting this at PDA devices of that time!!! Second, apps were not as advanced and hardware was not up to par to handle productivity that we can do now with apple pencil. With graphic design apps we have today and hardware that handles it is miles ahead than when first devices came out. Latency on Apple Pencil is now non existent - back then you can still buy a stylus to use with your devices - but there was so much latency that it would steer professionals and hobbyist away from it and use specific pads combo instead. And finally, once again the “3.5 inch falasy”. Why are you pulling CNN move again out of context. 3.5inch screen was and still more comfortable to use by hand. They extended that to 4” screen when technology allowed it in the same width which still allowed for one hand use. Steve was right 3.5 inch is best for one hand use - but people didn’t care they wanted more even if it meant they had to use two hands to reach all of the screen. So yes Steve was right and you’re pulling s**t out of context. We don’t know what’s in the future - what tech will allow. Don’t forget - Apple had a tablet with a stylus back in the 90’s I think - was called a Newton. Nothing new, buddy.

24. Knownhost

Posts: 110; Member since: Nov 13, 2017

"They extended that to 4” screen when technology allowed it in the same width which still allowed for one hand use." What radical new technology was required to make screens the same size as competitors? They literally added a half-inch extension of the screen. It required a bit of coding for the software to utilize that extra screen space, but that technology was available when the 3.5 inch screen was chosen. Also, the word you were looking for is _fallacy_.

29. Vokilam

Posts: 1343; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

You do realize that for Apple to get a hold of some screens may require longer timeframe to get those made, assembled, and shipped. Apple has been outselling any device on the market by huge margins. People like you have a very juvenile view of how manufacturing and distribution works. PS I’m really sorry to offend you with misspelling - I know your world has not been the same since the moment you read my post due to misspelled word. I’m glad you pointed that out - I don’t want you to be fired from your spelling nazi job.

30. blingblingthing

Posts: 979; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

He's in damage control mode. It's kind of like like when someone says something that is culturally offensive, but because they didn't know it, they try to reason that it's not offensive. Face it, Steve was ahead of his time on some things but wrong on the stylus thing. He didn't see the stylus as a big productivity tool, just as an unneeded input device. His comments are in line with blackberry and Microsoft doubting the iPhone, comments they've all lived to regret.

26. oldskool50 unregistered

First off, you basically just quoted what the write said, you have zero idea what Steve Jobs meant in context. Yes ph pool nes and PDA devices were limited and the stylus was yes something of more of a pointing device vs a actual pen/pencil. I personally just gonna take what he said at face value and. Ot asse what he meant. I guess when he said no one would want those hummer phones, we shouldn't assume anything like, wasnt taking about it phones like the Note. I guess he was talking about cellular tablets or

9. cmdacos

Posts: 4302; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Fully expected to read about the nasty camera setup design assuming that, along with millions of others, would have Steve saying yuck. Will enjoy watching people have to deal with a separate stylus that will get damaged, lost etc.

12. whatev

Posts: 2396; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

And meanwhile I will enjoy watching your butthurtness and obsession with apple during release dates, many people here will do it too

19. lyndon420

Posts: 6861; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

You're confusing 'butthurt' with 'laughter'

28. whatev

Posts: 2396; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Awwww, lyndtroll suffering The same chase delirium as cmdacos, you all are so affected by Apple, it makes me feel so good to see how important is Apple and it’s community to you

10. MEeee

Posts: 438; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

We're happy as a family now with giant iPhones and stylus. Soon we will get along better with the underscreen touch ID iPhones.

11. Demo-jay

Posts: 86; Member since: Feb 13, 2018

“Similar to Samsung Wireless power share”,why not compare it to huawei since they did it first?,want people to think they copying sammy?

14. surethom

Posts: 1729; Member since: Mar 04, 2009

Really? Times change, Steve said who wants a large screen, but if he was alive he would have gone with the times. But the camera square would look better more in the center not side.

23. oldskool50 unregistered

Yes the square would look better in the center, but it's still ugly. It's ugly on other phones too. I like Samsung's where its rectangular in style. Just looks cleaner.

25. Knownhost

Posts: 110; Member since: Nov 13, 2017

I see the new camera module as a form of trolling from Apple. It's kind of like Trump saying he could kill someone and Republicans would still vote for him. Troll. Apple makes each iPhone incrementally different or adds one horrendous cosmetic change (notch, square camera module) and people still buy and adore their products. Troll.

27. Man_Utd

Posts: 190; Member since: Feb 03, 2015

If I was Jobs, I would be pissed at the fact Apple has stopped innovating. Look at the Chinese and some extend the Korean companies. They continue to bring new tech to phones. When the iPhone 11 comes out, the screen-to-body will be pretty much the same. Why hasn't Apple developed the screen that's can be transparent so the front cameras can be used? iPhones had the best cameras and the Pixel has killed them for the last couple of years. Their phones are the most expensive and lacking so much technology. I give Apple kudos for locking people into their OS. Now they can sit back and rake in the cash with minimal effort.

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