No Nougat for your Android phone? You might want to blame Qualcomm

No Nougat for your Android phone? You might want to blame Qualcomm
The HTC One (M8) is past the period during which HTC promised to update the phone to the latest version of Android. Despite that, the truth is that you can blame Qualcomm for the model reaching the end of the line at Android 6.0. In fact, you can also blame the chip manufacturer for the Nexus 5 also reaching the end of the line at Android 6.0.

According to ROM developer and HTC tipster LlabTooFeR, Qualcomm is not releasing updates to the graphic drivers on the Snapdragon 800 and the Snapdragon 801 chipsets. The former powered the HTC One (M8) and the Nexus 5 which is why those two phones won't be updated to Android 7.0.

Some of the other handsets affected by Qualcomm's decision include the Samsung Galaxy S5, Samsung Galaxy Note 3, LG G3, the Sony Xperia Z3 and other models. Most, if not all of these handsets, probably would have had no problems running Android 7.0. But alas, we will never know. And even if Qualcomm had decided to update the drivers, there is no guarantee that there would have been manufacturer support for the update.

Nonetheless, if you feel the need to display your anger, you might be barking up the wrong tree by accusing the phone's manufacturer for the decision to stop updating your handset. You might want to vent at Qualcomm for deciding not to update the graphic drivers on those two aforementioned chipsets.

source: @LlabTooFeR via SlashGear



1. Unordinary unregistered

Android NoGet.

2. boriqua2000

Posts: 258; Member since: Mar 11, 2009

I hope we don't get forced to download nougat on the note 7. Every upgrade always messes up the way the phone runs. Nougat has nothing worth upgrading to.

4. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

While that might be true for some cases, I rather have the options to not upgrade than having no choice at all.

9. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Just like Lollipopgate did to some of the Galaxy phones.

12. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

I must agree on this, official lollipop was bad on my Note 4, had to go for a custom ROM.

13. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1581; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

It ruined my Note 3, I still use it around the house on WiFi and if I enable sync my battery won't last more than a few hours with the screen off, something with Google services just drains it. Had issues with my Note 4 that angered me to the point I called the update lolifail, apps crashed left and right and phone always froze.

19. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

It was bad on mine, but not as bad as yours lol. No random reboots or freezes on mine, the app crashes were more frequent though, I have the T-Mobile version. The lollipop custom roms were awesome and totally worth the hassle of installing them.

20. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1581; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

Note 3 works fine for casting videos to my TV, but the software is crippled, stuck on 5.0.1 Note 4 got updated and fixed, both phones Verizon.

27. Podrick

Posts: 1285; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

It was quite opposite in my Z3c. After hearing Lollipop issues, I avoided it for months, one day installed out of curiosity and I was surprised. Just as fast and stable as it was with Kitkat with battery life even better. Only downside was how the drop down notification/quick settings worked. I preferred Kitkat one.

3. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

I hate Qualcomm already! Need Intel to make ARM chips quick!!

5. maple_mak

Posts: 953; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

Because of Vulkan, which required OpenGL 3.1 or newer, which Snapdragon 800/801 doesn't support.

16. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

OpenGL is for desktops OpenGL ES is for mobiles (Embedded Systems) OpenGL ES 3.1 came in 2014, but its features are from OpenGL 4.3 and 4.4 (2012 and 2013) So its Qualcomm's fault for either not bothering with updating the 800/801 firmware Or for not designing their GPUs to support the current OpenGL version at the time e.g. ARM's 2012 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.1 and AEP (both from 2014) And their 2013 GPUs support OpenGL ES 3.2 and Vulkan (from 2015 and 2016)

22. maple_mak

Posts: 953; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

Oh yeah! I forgot the ES version! Thanks mate.

24. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

No worries!! :)

6. SamsungOfficial1

Posts: 5; Member since: Jul 30, 2016

CR@pdragon is a joke, exynos can easily pimp slap every one of them

8. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

Well, exynos S5 and note 4 isn't getting nougat anyway. So your point is invalid. And Samsung is the worst at outing drivers for exynos variants. That's why there are no AOSP ROMs for exynos variants.

10. RoboticEngi

Posts: 1251; Member since: Dec 03, 2014

17. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

This is just a copy of the buggy release of CM13 for S6. Trust me, I have used the S6 edge for over an year, and the AOSP ROMs are s**t because Samsung didn't release drivers.

26. Podrick

Posts: 1285; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

This guy again lol. Welcome back

34. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

If it's a joke, why is your beloved Samsung putting those Soc's in handsets as well? Do you not take Samsung seriously? You are okay with your brand sticking crap in their phones?

35. JunitoNH

Posts: 1946; Member since: Feb 15, 2012

I know is your name and avatar, but usually you are very logical. Your response doesn't even read like you. Are you ok? Or did someone hack your account?

37. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

It was me making that comment, but reading back the comment,it was a bit weird lol. Let's blame it on the 90 hour workweek and not too much sleep :)

7. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

Come on, M8 or any 2014 Q1 phone was not getting android 7 anyway. Those phones are 2.5 years old. Android OEMs only support phones for 2 years. Heck, even non nexus Q3 2014 phones won't get 7.0, like the note 4. This is just because companies like Samsung want you to upgrade despite you having a perfectly capable phone.

15. IosDroid

Posts: 117; Member since: Dec 03, 2015

That's true for official ROMs but this way we won't even get a Nougat custom ROMs. And that sucks big time.

18. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

Well, ARM32 is a dying platform anyway. Supporting it after 2.5 years would be a real waste of resources.

21. uzimafioso

Posts: 469; Member since: Jul 15, 2014

Whaaat? There is no chance at all that 801 devices will get ROMs for Nougat? Will SD805 be supported? Even though they're both 32-bit chips?

11. techlover2017

Posts: 65; Member since: Aug 22, 2016

I think its enough for all to run three major os version in 2 to 3 years of time. And afterall greed never dies.

14. torr310

Posts: 1690; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Marshmellow is good for another year.

25. Podrick

Posts: 1285; Member since: Aug 19, 2015

Qualcomm going downward since Snapdragon 810.

28. GeorgeAF

Posts: 88; Member since: Feb 25, 2014

Judging by the way my Note 4 runs on Marshamallow, I probably wont upgrade to Nougat "if" it ever gets the update

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