Ming-Chi Kuo: iPhone 8 wireless charging a sure thing, new touch controls may be in store

Ming-Chi Kuo: iPhone 8 wireless charging a sure thing, new touch controls may be in store
The purported unique 10th anniversary edition of the Apple iPhone is shaping up to be one for the ages. Dubbed tentatively the iPhone 8 or iPhone X to differentiate it from the regular LCD-equipped iPhone 7s and 7s Plus upgrades (again tentative names), it will eventually ship with a wraparound flexible OLED display, huge battery and dual camera.
 
Analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who has a proven track record in predicting upcoming iPhone features based on supply chain sources, now adds wireless charging to the mix as a sure thing, both for the iPhone X, and for the 7s and 7s Plus. The issue, however, is that the OLED iPhone is said to be all-glass, with only a thin stainless steel frame sandwiched in-between. Here came the challenge for Apple's engineers, tipped the analyst, as wireless charging generates heat, and glass is a poorer heat conductor than metal. 

In addition, Apple is reportedly prepping a brand new 3D Touch experience on the all-glass phone, which would require a new layer of film, and that one is apparently more prone to heat than the existing solution on iPhone 6s/7. Therefore, says Ming-Chi Kuo in a note to clients, Apple will be installing a graphene sheet in the upcoming iPhone 8, to help dissipate the extra warmth generated by the wireless charging coil, and prevent heat damage. 

Of course, the end iPhone user doesn't really care what extra laminated layer has Apple installed to prevent overheating, but they might notice the enhanced 3D Touch experience that the analyst talks about. For us, this is the more interesting take from his memo. Wireless charging is not all that exciting, unless Apple has cracked the code of charging your iPhone from across the room without frying your brainwaves in the process.

A brand new 3D Touch layer that would differ from what's on other iPhones, though? Could it be that the rumors about a new way of navigation and interaction with the iPhone 8, including a move to touch-sensitive volume and other buttons hold water? Now this would be something to shout from the rooftops, and there are all indications that Apple is cooking something unique for the 10th iPhone anniversary, and not only in terms of hardware or design changes.

source: AppleInsider; image credit: iDrop news

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62 Comments

1. HillaryClinton2020

Posts: 192; Member since: Feb 08, 2017

Let's be honest, Apple will win the smartphone war yet again in 2017. Android fanboy will spread their anti-apple hate speech below, but my body is ready for this :)

2. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

Probably, the 2017 iPhone rumors do sound great but we have a lot flagships yet to be released before we get to the iPhone so I wouldn't place in bets on your statement.

8. peace247 unregistered

This is the first time I'm genuinely excited for iPhone. Yes I'm a fandroid. Still i see smartphones as tools. The day iphone will surpass android, I won't hesitate a bit to jump to apple.

15. Arch_Fiend

Posts: 3951; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

I feel the same way man +1.

19. Papa_Ji

Posts: 878; Member since: Jun 27, 2016

Oh!!! really you are excited for wireless charging and older generation AMOLED ... So,why don't you get a GALAXY S4....

20. AlikMalix unregistered

No Samsung or any other device has wireless charging!!! I also believe that the AMOLED screen on the iPhone will NOT have a pantile arrangement but aligned the same way as the current iPhone IPS screens. You'll get sharper image without the need to increase resolution too much - thus saving battery juice and reap the benefits of dark themed UI... Samsung have been using pantile arrangement screens and had to increase resolution to look sharp. But, yeah, no device has wireless charging... yet...

28. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

People should really take electrical engineering classes. What wireless means:http://www.thefreedictionary.com/wireless Where is the wire that charges the phone?https://9to5mac.files.wordpress.com/2015/04/aircharge-2.jpg?quality=82&strip=all&w=1000

31. AlikMalix unregistered

So if conductive charging IS wireless than what do you call WiFi? By your logic, is have to place my phone on the wifi router in order to have internet - but instead I'm walking around the house and getting WIRELESS service. NO PHONE HAS WIRELSS CHARGING!!! Oridanry, I'm guessing the reason why you guys are holding on to them is argument because you need to shout that Apple copied "wirelss" charging if Apple actually introduces REAL wireless charging - you know the one that works across the room or at least a few feet away, reading PA article while sitting in the chair with a wireless "router" plugged in next to you - even that would be phenomenal. Bu to answer your question: The wire is right there short 2 millimeters from the phone. The phone is basically attached to a pad instead of being attached to the wire - I see absolutely nothing wireless about that.

35. FrenchGuy

Posts: 134; Member since: Dec 12, 2014

When I'm 100m away from my router , I dont receive the signal so is it really wireless? It's your way of thinking

36. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

If you dont see nothing wireless about it doesnt mean its not wireless. Its already a standard wherever you accept it or decline. Thats why its funny to even have an argument about this. Wi-Fi is long range and Qi Pad is short range wireless, simple as that. If you think Apple or anyone else is gonna bring long range wireless charging that is convenient in 2017/2018 is laughable at best. There are already some that are complete joke. It took iPhone 4s that has 1420 mAh 5 hours to fully charge. It would take iPhone 7 almost 7 hours, iPhone 7+ 10 hours and S7 Edge 12 hours. Keep in mind the distance is 4.5cm of the pad. Increase the distance and it gets even worse. Unless you want to get cancer quickly we are still away from that. Me personally would rather want to increase quick charging and make it more efficient and also make batteries last much longer.

52. AlikMalix unregistered

indictive charging isn't in anyway wirelss - it has ZERO range (not short range). With wifi - I get service without having my phone attached to some round pad or some mat - it gets signal across empty space. Samsung is lying to you by upselling toothbrush technology as "wireless" charging. BUT IT'S NOT!!!

54. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

It has up to 4cm of range. Its not Samsung that owns this. Its Wireless Power Consortium. So if you want you can tell them that they have been wrong all the time by calling it wireless.

56. AlikMalix unregistered

Why you lying? I tried it, It stops charging if you lift it about a millimeter. But let's say you're right and there's a way to make it charge in 4cm range - wtf is the point - you can't use the phone anyway like you would with wifi. The WiPower Consortum is using the same tactic your flock reducible Apple for - they use catch words to sell you products - but we all know there's nothing wireless about android wireless charging enabled devices!!!

39. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Apple will simply make it inductive charging. Ming Chi kuo said it and he is usualy right ( PA did not include thats info as usual... )

22. peace247 unregistered

You need to relax. Lol

25. Nutcase4u2

Posts: 44; Member since: Oct 15, 2015

Hilarious comment! It is funny how Apple introduces wireless charging (likely) on their phones and everyone praises them. Seriously thought, AMOLED is soooooo much better than the retina screens they currently have. I have pretty high hopes for a great piece of hardware from Apple this year, but the software is still my biggest hurdle.

27. peace247 unregistered

Yup..i still think ios is not there upto android. For me android>>>ios. But in hardware department they are not far away and better in some.

46. SteveS

Posts: 51; Member since: Oct 15, 2013

It's funny how people react to rumors as if it's actual news. Can we at least wait to see what Apple actually does before hating or praising what they might do in the future? As for AMOLED, no, there is no picture quality advantage at this point. The iPhone 7 screen reviews make this clear. Display experts have weighed in on this already. However, if Apple is going to change their form factor significantly such as an edge to edge screen or some sort of wrap around display, then OLED would be their only choice. On top of that, OLED screens are still in short supply. That's why they ship on relatively low volume products. As much as phones like the S7 get press, they don't ship in iPhone volumes.

57. IOSANDROID

Posts: 120; Member since: Sep 30, 2015

Sounds like you have insider information about the display quality.... please share it with us!

38. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

The day apple will make an iphone with android on it i will jump on it ( i do like the design and partially the hardware ) But i wont waste all my android purchase to lock myself in an OS thats only 1 oem use.

3. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

Your username says everything. It's better for you to remain silent otherwise you will get banned soon.

5. HillaryClinton2020

Posts: 192; Member since: Feb 08, 2017

This is a free speech zone! I can say whatever I want! If you don't like it why bother come to Apple article and spread hate?

11. HugoBarraCyanogenmod

Posts: 1412; Member since: Jul 06, 2014

Huh? You said it's a free speech zone, yet you stop me for commenting in Apple articles? Also, I'm not spreading hate, I just warn you because you keep trolling on every articles and you will soon banned, so yeah good luck with your free speech then

7. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Again? They haven't won it since 2011. Nothing but catch up since then, and even then only catching up to earlier models.

9. AlikMalix unregistered

What metric do you measure by to consider if certain device is a success or not?

40. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Not sales for sure. the best cars are not the most sold. Same for about everything else. The most sold are usually cheap. What apple made you think is thats you get premium because you pay premium lol but its nothing else than a honda civic in a ferrari disguise.

47. SteveS

Posts: 51; Member since: Oct 15, 2013

That might be true if your Honda Civic could outperform a Ferrari. Seeing as though it can't, your analogy falls apart rather fast.

58. AlikMalix unregistered

So you still didn't answer my question? What makes a released device considered a successful one and what makes it a failure? Furthermore. Iphomes cost as much as any other flagship. Also iPhones outperfom any android phone in many aspects for many people it's the better choice year after year. Sivik and Ferrari are made for specific people and specific use. It would be stupid for someone to buy a civic for taking around the track or vice versa buying a Ferrari to drive kids to school. Same thing with android vs iOS. It would be stupid to buy an iPhone if you want an embedded stulus. And viceversa to buy android if you want faster phone.

59. AlikMalix unregistered

Added: both Honda and Ferrari are successful in the market they build for. Apple doesn't give too much snot about the junk market - they only cater to the high end and from sales numbers they seem to be making devices that high end market wants. Android market consists of majority older devices and cheap devices - based on which versions of android are currently out there. There's is your answer - both are successful in the market they cater to. Apple is really good at building a high end device that high end market wants. Android picks up whatever left on the table after Apple is done eating.

10. telefini

Posts: 3; Member since: Feb 03, 2017

You funny men. Everybody have different preferences. Android customers dont care for iphone, neither do iphone users care for android, and nobody care for fanboys like you who are brainwashed.

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