Loophole in ‘employee’ definition allows ‘forced interns’ at Foxconn

Loophole in ‘employee’ definition allows ‘forced interns’ at Foxconn
While Tim Cook and Foxconn look to make improvements to become legally compliant with labor laws after the Fair Labor Association (FLA) found “serious and pressing noncompliance” in Foxconn factories, a group of activists are drawing attention to another labor violation that they say has slipped under the radar.

While the FLA’s report concerns itself with employees of Foxconn, there is another type of worker who doesn’t fall under that category – student interns. Under Chinese law there is no employment relationship between the factory and the interns, making it near impossible to regulate conditions for students.

Debby Cheng, project officer of Students and Scholars Against Corporate Misbehaviour (Sacom), said of the FLA audits, “The gross violation of forced internship was not addressed at all. They tried to water down the problem."

Sacom claims that students from all disciplines are send to Foxconn, not for relevant job experience or training, but just as additional workers, particularly during holiday periods. Many of these students’ internships last 3 to 6 months and are often filled with 10-hour days and seven-day workweeks.

Compounding the problem, many students claim that they are at Foxconn against their will. China Daily ran a story in which it reported students from a vocation school in Zhengzhou where only told 9 days before the start of their internship that them must leave “as ordered by the provincial government.” Anyone that refused was told that they had to drop out of school.

The FLA did find that Foxconn hired an average of 27,000 interns a month with an average stay of three and a half months. It also said in its Apple audit that it found the hiring of interns to be “the source of much controversy” and of “major concern to external stakeholders.”

While the FLA recommended that, moving forward, intern’s jobs be related to their fields of study and their work be limited to no more than 8 hours a day for five days a week, the FLA did conclude that the employment status of interns “remains vague and represents a major risk.”

Sacom, which was originally setup by Hong Kong academics to drawn attention to plant conditions at facilities that manufactured toys for Hong Kong Disneyland, is expanding to focus on the rising concerns occurring in the electronics sector. In March, it issued a letter to Tim Cook explaining its findings and calling for a stop to this “form of involuntary labour.”

source: TheGuardian



1. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

The trolls will have a field day with this. Remix andro, commence with the blood on your hands comments. Please continently ignore that Foxconn makes products for many major companies including products you two use.

3. ZEUS.the.thunder.god unregistered

go back to your mama kiddo. we are discussing serious business here.


Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

TACO50 LUCIFER OV APPLE And he is proud and apprizes that........

9. ibap

Posts: 867; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

I love posts that are obviously typed on touch screens with auto-correct and people don't review them before sending. "continently"?

13. iamcc

Posts: 1319; Member since: Oct 07, 2011


20. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Thanks my man

16. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

you got that right buddy. think you dont have blood on your hands because your mommy buys your electronics for you? I know you would like to have people THINK you were gone while you were banned and havent used 10 other names which all got banned, but I know that you know the issue of foxconn and other companies has been brought up 1000 times. Its been well versed. Your wrong, like usual. So how do u feel now that you are trolling under your own name for once?

18. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

BTW, what kind of heartless moron doesnt think that kids going to college and being told by the college that if they dont go work in slave conditions for 3 -6 months or they will be permanently booted from college is an OK thing to do? We arent talking about a few students, we are talking 20k a MONTH. And in china, when your fired or kicked out, you are permanently blacklisted by all companies in the area.

21. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

I don't think it's ok. I think your a hypocrite because you bash Apple and continue to use products made in Foxconn factories.

23. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

which products do i currently buy from foxconn, taco?

33. biophone

Posts: 1994; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

My problem is i realize apple has terrible working conditions but so does everyone else. Why are we drawing the line at where what apple is doing is wrong and what everyone else does is fine. The line should have been drawn way above the standards of all phone makers. I don't approve of apple's actions in any way but I am applaud but everyone else as well.

34. Mandroid

Posts: 209; Member since: Feb 22, 2012

Because f*** apple. That's why.

27. AndroidTroll

Posts: 359; Member since: Mar 05, 2011

PA is boring without Taco. Even his name is funny. Welcome back!

41. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

ha ha thanks

28. tluv00

Posts: 134; Member since: Oct 18, 2007

"Please continently ignore that Foxconn makes products for many major companies including products you two use." You meant conveniently right? That is true. What is also true is that Apple has chosen to make themselves the face of and the saviors of Foxconn and this whole mess. They brough in the auditors. They are making public visits. They are the ones who where saying that "nothing was wrong" and now you want people to not say something after all of that? They are also Foxconn's largest client and are on record stating that they care about all employees in the supply chain and also that they do audits themselves. This will do nothing to harm Apple either. They could kill children in public and drink their blood and people would still buy their products.

38. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

So rumors of your death are greatly exaggerated? Funny how you start right back in with your nonsense. Anyone who has ever worked in or had parents who work in manufacturing knows that conditions can vary widely from plant to plant, even in the same company. How come none of the violations being reported are shown to have to do with the plants that make products for companies other than Apple?

2. cripton805

Posts: 1485; Member since: Mar 18, 2012

F#$% Apples CEO. I will try my best to avoid Apple products.

14. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

well start by avoiding Apple articles


Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

What's it to you gallitoking?????? Can you not handle or face the truth!!!!! Are you scared that fandroids or other's Segregates you????? Are

29. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

just saying if you hate hate.. no one has you here.. is simple.. not exactly sure what truth you are talking about.. but ok.. I dont watch sci fi movies.. sorry..

36. cripton805

Posts: 1485; Member since: Mar 18, 2012

Just to let you know, I don't hate the products. I just don't like their business practice about hyping up their products and calling it revolutionary. Kind of like "Siri". My old phones used to have voice recognition and read outs for years. I might enjoy their product if I was 5' and had I had tiny little petite hands, but I could very easily use any device with one hand and a 4"-5" screen. Not to diss Apple, but I'm just stating a fact. Sure there are flaws with every phone, but I'm tired of all the iFans making Pros out of the Cons and making silly excuses. The iPhone is a great phone, but it Isn't God sent and only comes close to some of Androids mid-end phones. Sometimes I feel that websites only review iPhones so high because they are scared that the iFans might backlash. I have found that while Android phones are getting negative reviews for a tiny 4" screen and poor battery life "that matches the iPhones battery life" are never mentioned as cons for the iPhone. Features that are missing that are very common on most phones nowadays. Most of the hype is created by Apple and create a mental thought that they "think" they have the best as their commercials and advertising make them believe. It's all an illusion.

37. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

but why you care so much couldn't simply not buy their products and that's it.. let other find out for themselves or respect their decision on cell phone... besides I don't see why you trip on specs.. Android is not Apple and vice versa.. things are differently in Apple.. respect... just because 4 inch screens came out doesn't mean everyone should jump on it.. people still need need 3'5 screen and may even not buy the iphone if it goes bigger screen... do you do this to al products you don't agree on how they market their product?...

35. stealthd unregistered

I'm kind of amazed such stupid comments not only get posted here, but up voted. News flash: Apple isn't personally responsible for Foxconn, but they're the only ones trying to improve it. Now you think they're responsible for Chinese labor laws too? Amazing.

4. jmoita2

Posts: 930; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

Evil scumbags. I wish all Apple users can come back as Chinese slave workers in their next lives. And Taco50 as well.


Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

Jmoita2 lets pray for them.... GOD full-fills our wishes!!!! They should all go to ifernal brimstone......


Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

And you forgot his companions+ Chack gallitoking chris jerico taco50 Darkjedi the legend CMpunk have i missed any1 else? The original Apple die-hard fans.....

17. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

you guys must be important people to be wishing like that... have a pact with the devil or something?...


Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

It's contemplative and circumspection.... It's you and apple and your convoys who are! Are you compunctious to concede?

30. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

and your wishful thinking is not?

39. Triton

Posts: 24; Member since: Mar 02, 2012

Thats so Christian of you.

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