The Huawei P40 Pro might ship with Android 10 and Harmony OS on board

The Huawei P40 Pro might ship with Android 10 and Harmony OS on board
The Huawei P30 Pro

Huawei introduced the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro last month with Android 10 on board but no access to Google’s services because of the US trade ban. This situation might change in the coming months but Huawei’s reportedly got a different strategy for its next flagships if it doesn’t.

One tipster claims the Huawei P40 series will dual-boot Android 10 and Harmony OS if the US trade ban isn’t lifted by early 2020. This means buyers of the P40 and P40 Pro will be able to experience Android 10 without Google’s services, just like owners of the Mate 30 Pro, and Huawei’s custom operating system which is backed by its own app store and services. 
 
This move will let customers outside of China experience Huawei’s new operating system without it being forced upon them. The dual-boot strategy should also allow the company to gather important customer feedback about its new operating system and better adapt it to the needs of customers as it learns more. 

Huawei itself has confirmed in the past that Harmony OS isn’t yet ready for smartphones. Moreover, the operating system won’t be a viable iOS competitor for another two years. Nevertheless, the company undoubtedly has the resources and is likely doing everything it can to speed up development and get it ready in time for the P40 Pro’s arrival. 

The Huawei P40 and P40 Pro are expected to debut in March 2020 at a standalone event in Europe. If the US trade ban is lifted before then, Huawei will likely ditch its current dual-boot strategy in favor of Android 10 paired with EMUI 10 and Google’s range of services and apps, including the Play Store.

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27 Comments

1. Alcyone

Posts: 533; Member since: May 10, 2018

Typo: Second paragraph, second line.

3. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

This is actually a great idea, and one that I think Huawei should implement even if the ban is lifted before the launch of the P40/P40 Pro. As the article states, it will then give users the opportunity to experience Huwwei's homegrown OS without users being forced to use it. Choice is always a good thing.

4. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1459; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

I think they should do it as well. They should do it for getting feedback on their OS, because i doubt the USA will stop hounding Huawei and Android may become unavailable to them again. It might also give Google incentive to make improvements maybe even push Fuchsia forward, if Harmony OS does end up being quite a lot faster then Android. And obviously more choice is never a bad thing.

5. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Absolutely agree.

6. Subie

Posts: 2414; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

This is exactly what i was hoping Blackberry and Microsoft would try before they both gave up on hardware and OS...

7. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Subie, me and you both. That would have been amazing.

8. Subie

Posts: 2414; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

Plus one MG. And i also agree with you on Huawei implementing this even if the ban is lifted. This would definitely give Huawei a unique marketable feature.

14. credposter unregistered

If you didn't know Microsoft will work with Google on a new Android smartphone.

22. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

That is something that’s well known.

11. domfonusr

Posts: 1092; Member since: Jan 17, 2014

I'm not normally a big fan of Huawei, or other Chinese OEM's, but... the prospect of being able to get a device that has snappiness and speed closer to that of an iPhone, while offering that in a package that costs more like an inexpensive Android handset... that is very tempting. I would like to see them do that, and better yet, they'll put it alongside Android so that anyone can compare Android to Harmony OS on the same innate hardware. I imagine that we would all get to hear a lot of reviews from people who try such a product out for the first time. And if Harmony OS becomes the third-horse in the race against iOS and Android, all the better: more choice is better... even though Harmony OS is sourced from China, and undoubtedly people would have the same suspicions about Harmony OS that they do with Android devices that are sourced from Chinese OEM's, that may all become rather irrelevant if Harmony OS does really well and eventually gets decent app support and market share. If Harmony OS is as fast and snappy as they claim, at a much lower price-point than a comparable iPhone, I would be tempted to try it, indeed: even if only to spurn the iOS/Android duopoly... I'd like to see Huawei do this on a flagship device so we could see a real comparison of how a high-end Android phone would compare with Harmony OS... and then hopefully, they would make less expensive hardware to put Harmony OS on if it indeed checked out as viable.

16. credposter unregistered

Hey, At this time it can not be put, from what I heard from engineers working on Huawei, harmony is a copy of the android. So they can't get it out right now, so I'll have to wait a while.

18. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Of course it's a copy of Android. That's all Huawei can do is imitate instead of innovate. That's why they are in this predicament in the first place because of their reputation.

21. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Credposter, You have proof of this claim? If so, post it for all to see, because HarmonyOS does not seem like a copy of Android. Using that logic, Android seems like a copy of Windows Mobile. Huawei is perhaps the only OEM with enough resources to pull off a credible 3rd OS. Choice is a beautiful thing.

24. credposter unregistered

You are credible... How sure are you of this argument ... China is the country that makes copy-paste. I have a friend from America in China who is a programmer and he gives me many details about harmony os... I can't prove it to you but when you buy the phone you will only convince yourself that you will have to wait about 5-10 years because they have no applications at the moment and for Google applications they use an emulator. The second thing you will not see through the software their applications like YouTube, Gmail, Facebook and many more.. For you convince look at the Huawei app is a emulator...

25. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

And you’re credible? I highly doubt that. I am very sure of my argument. I watched the unveiling of Huawei’s HarmonyOS, and it’s not a copy of Googles Android. And the unveiling is up on YouTube and various other sites for all to see. A stranger on the internet like you saying that you have an American friend in China that’s a programmer that gives you details about HarmonyOS is about as credible as someone that says “water isn’t wet”. And you yourself even admit that you can’t prove what you’re saying. You are incorrect about HarmonyOS not having apps, as it uses Huawei’s AppGallery, which is a part of Huawei’s Mobile services (HMS). Huawei’s AppGallery has been serving more than 390 million global monthly active users in more than 170 countries and regions. I got that information from here: https://www.huaweicentral.com/huawei-mobile-services-hms-everything-you-need-to-know/ Now THAT is a credible source that I’m quoting from, which makes me more credible than you.

27. credposter unregistered

And you believe what is written... It is as if the product did not go out on the market but sold 5mil.. OK is like you.. You still believe what you say..

28. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Who said anything about the product going out to market yet and selling 5 million? I posted a credible link stating that Huawei’s AppGallery has more than 390 million monthly active users to counter your claim (with no proof) that there are no apps for HarmonyOS, when HarmonyOS uses HMS and Huawei’s AppGallery is a part of HMS. Where is your proof, as I have supplied mine, from a a credible source that can be verified, unlike yours....

13. AlienKiss

Posts: 241; Member since: May 21, 2019

As an android power user and fan, all I have to say is that they won't succeed. Not even Apple with all the hype and very aggressive marketing was ever close to make me want to even try it once. Try it, not quit android for it. So telling us about a china/russia os is effing hilarious and totally delusional. I mean who in their mind is silly enough to use their os outside china and russia? Hahahaha! Good joke! I bet having root on one of those phones is out of the question. Don't you wonder why??

23. jiangqiushi

Posts: 35; Member since: May 28, 2019

This is what they said about Nokia when iphone came around. No one last forever in tech. And China happens to be the biggest smartphone market in the world, half of the smartphones sold in the world are Chinese brands, if the Chinese government support a 3rd system, everyone in China will jump on board. Then we will see what happens in the rest of the world.

26. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Apple didn’t have to make you want to try it, they are the second largest mobile OS out today. They have a more loyal fan base than any single Android OEM. Huawei’s Mobile Services, specifically their AppGallery, is already used by 390 million monthly active users, from more than 170 million countries and regions around the world. You don’t have to think they won’t succeed with HarmonyOS, they are already successful with their Mobile Services. And there are other Chinese OEM’s like Xiamoi, the 4th largest smartphone maker, as well as OPPO and Vivo that will reportedly co-develop HarmonyOS for their smartphones. That’s a third of Android manufacturers right there. As I said, you don’t have to believe it will succeed, but the recipe is already there, and Huawei’s Mobile Services are already successful. It’s laughable that you think the second largest smartphone OEM that has a huge amount of resources and is already succeeding with it’s proprietary software and services in the largest market for smartphones and other places around the world doesn’t have a chance to succeed with its own OS.

9. darkkjedii

Posts: 31529; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Go for it Huawei. Any innovation is welcome.

19. Venom

Posts: 3778; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Unfortunately imitation isn't really a good complement for innovation.

20. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Except that Huawei isn’t imitating here. They have created their own OS from the ground up. Using your logic, Android is an imitation of Windows Mobile.

10. Rocket

Posts: 696; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

That's good news. Btw, what happened to Samsung Tizen? They had to the same ( dual boot Tizen and Android)

17. darkkjedii

Posts: 31529; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Samsung uses Tizen for its watches, One UI for its phones, and tablets.

12. monoke

Posts: 1185; Member since: Mar 14, 2015

This is the most refreshing piece of news I've read in the phone world yet! Dual boot and giving consumers choice is what it's all about. Hopefully this Harmony is very capable.

15. credposter unregistered

Google is struggling to stop working with Huawei, given that Huawei is the largest data copier.

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