Demand for 3D sensing components expected to take off in wake of Face ID success

Demand for 3D sensing components expected to take off in wake of Face ID success
Back in February 2017, nearly seven months before Apple unveiled the Apple iPhone X, analyst Ming-Chi Kuo said that the front facing camera on what was then called the iPhone 8, was going to be "revolutionary." Kuo was right. Of course, by now we recognize that the analyst was talking about the TrueDepth Camera, which helps drive Face ID. Apple considered this feature to be such a success, that all three 2018 models sport the TrueDepth Camera and use Face ID instead of Touch ID to unlock the device and for identity verification.

The success of Apple's use of Vertical-cavity surface-emitting laser (VCSEL) 3D scanning technology has industry sources expecting a surge in demand for components used in manufacturing these modules. This bodes well for companies involved in the production of such components starting as soon as next year. Suppliers of these components are looking forward to 2019 and 2020 when they expect business from Android phone manufacturers to take off.

Additionally, there is talk that Apple will have a rear-facing camera with 3D scanning capabilities starting with the 2019 iPhone models. It would allow Apple to offer more AR applications than it does currently. Unlike the TrueDepth Camera, which uses structured light to project images on a face to construct a depth map, the rumor mill says that Apple will resort to using Time of Flight technology for a rear-mounted 3D scanning camera. "TOF" measures the speed at which laser signals are bounced back to the sender to create a 3D map.

source: Digitimes



1. lyndon420

Posts: 6883; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Still not a fan of facial recognition software...even with apple calling it 'a thing'. A password/passcode is still much more secure when it comes down to police states etc.

4. Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

TouchID or finger print scanners are still faster than FaceID. But what is going to be more secure than FaceID, is ultrasonic scanners, especially when it scans your finger in 3D. That cannot be copied, period.

8. apple-rulz

Posts: 2198; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

Please tell me exactly why ultrasonic fingerprint scanners cannot be copied. Please be very detailed in your reply.

16. Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

Google Qualcomm's Sense ID, and how it works. To sum it up, it scans your pours, groves in your finger print, and some of the inner structure to about a millimeter thick. How can you replicate that? It's not like the 2D finger print scanners, which users could easily lift someone's finger print and replicate that. But it is impossible to replicate some of the inner structure of someone's inner finger print. You tell me how you could that?

18. apple-rulz

Posts: 2198; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

You didn't answer the question I posed, not in the slightest. Cute though that you tried to turn it around. I'll give you another chance-why exactly is it impossible to replicate the inner structure of someone's inner fingerprint. Don't just write "it can't be done", explain, in your own words, why it can't be done.

12. Phullofphil

Posts: 1831; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

I have facial recognition. I have an iPhone X’s max and an x before that. My phone is unlocked before I use it. It works great. Apple still might use under screen fingerprint scanner in the future. But the facial recognition works great. It’s secure enough for 99% of the people out there. If you need a super secure phone fingerprint or facial recognition probably is not for you. Fingerprint scanning can get duped as well.

2. cncrim

Posts: 1590; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

FaceID is quite convenient however if found TouchID still a way to go as far unlock phone alot more safe. FaceID nice when in cold weather in 20 below.

3. darkkjedii

Posts: 31616; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Apple isn’t alway first, but it’s the ultimate trendsetter. They need to put TouchID in the Apple logo though, that would be sweet. Give us more options to get into our phones.

5. Atechguy0

Posts: 918; Member since: Aug 03, 2018

Or an ultrasound/ultrasonic scanner under the display, or on the back.

6. strategic_developer

Posts: 1627; Member since: Jul 17, 2018

Face ID is successful at what? It's only being used because you are almost force too since you don't have an FPS. Because Fa e Is is faster than typing a password or pincode. Forcimg you to use something doesn't make it successful. You're force to use money to buy good. Because there is no alternative.

7. cocoy

Posts: 464; Member since: Oct 30, 2015

Face ID is good if they will adopt the style of OPPO Find X but if they will copy the notch. I will look for other phone without notch.

9. Chris_ABN

Posts: 198; Member since: May 16, 2018

I'll pass. I'll take a finger print scanner over this s**t any day.

11. whatev

Posts: 2417; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

As usual apple setting trends, what’s new?

13. Vokilam

Posts: 1380; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

Man I remember reading the same arguments from naysayers when Apple released iPhone 5s with integrated fingerprint scanner. Same. Exact. Arguments. Then watch every manufacturer dropping their FP sensors for 3D face scanning sensors - and in few years when Apple moves to something else - same exact arguments will favor face scanning to what ever Apple is doing. Come to think of it - this is the SAME EXACT ARGUMENTS these trolls made against ful touchscreen with no physical keyboard a decade ago. Mindblown.

15. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1475; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

In case of the fingerprint scanner Apple bought the company to keep Motorola from employing it first. There are already more advanced solutions than what Apple currently employs. LG has a module that's about a third of the size of the whole array the iPhone uses (I could imagine it being in the Pixel 3 XL). Android phones have utilized basic facial recognition for years, Windows has employed it too. More secure ultrasonic fps are coming to Android phones next year embedded under the screen. Apple isn't exactly leading the technological advancement in the industry. Face ID was a necessity to do away with a tired and boring iPhone design and embedded fps weren't ready yet. Apple will likely ditch it in a few years for an embedded fps.

17. Vokilam

Posts: 1380; Member since: Mar 15, 2018

I would like some proof for: 1. Apple bought fp company to block Motorola. 2. Phone with more advanced solution than what Apple has. 3. Some LG module or w/e on a device I can buy. 4. “More secure” ultrasonic solution on a device I can buy 5. Facial recognition on android phones and windows phone that’s better than apples. 6. Proof that Apple will ditch Face ID for onscreen fp sensor in future. All the crap you said is moot. Literal, lunacy driven moot and wishful thinking.

14. akistz

Posts: 31; Member since: Sep 26, 2018

Don’t hate Face ID just because Apple did it and you have to hate everything apple does. Face ID is seamless secure and an overall great implementation. I’d prefer it over a fingerprint scanner on the back everyday. In-display fs are promising but need work

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