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Europe to get Nokia Lumia 920 and 820 in November? Price leaked?

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Europe to get Nokia Lumia 920 and 820 in November?  Price leaked?
One of the frustrating things about new product announcements is that often critical information is omitted for one reason or another. Nokia’s reluctance to say when its newest line up of Lumia handsets would go on sale or offer a price point is being cited as one of the reasons why their stock took a beating after the announcement. It is understandable to some extent, product announcements are often made while final testing and configuration is still being performed.

European telecom operators tell Reuters that the Lumia 920 and 820 will go on sale in November. However, other sources indicate a mid-October release for the Lumia 920 with the 820 to follow shortly thereafter. The price of the Nokia Lumia 920 is expected to be €600 ($758 or £476). The Lumia 820 will debut with a price of about €450 ($568 or £357). This pricing puts the devices in the same realm as their competitors, such as the Samsung Galaxy S III, which sells for about €580.

If Nokia is able to keep that schedule, their new offerings will be well in place for the holiday shopping season. Such timing does not help Nokia’s position given the elephant in the room – sales of Apple's new iPhone will likely be well underway by then. Samsung’s sales are strong as well, and they have a new Windows Phone 8 device coming to market. Further hurting Nokia from a financial standpoint is that demand for the Lumia 900 will probably grind to a halt now that people will want to wait for the new devices.  A November release would mean a two month dead-zone of sales crossing two fiscal quarters.

It is not all doom and gloom for Nokia though. The Lumia series have attractive designs, and the camera on the Lumia 920 looks like it is top notch.  Add in some of the unique features that Nokia brings to their device line-up as well as a Nokia-centric program which helps a user make the switch to Windows Phone, and the new Lumias are definitely solid contenders. Nevertheless, it is pretty clear that the Lumia 920 and 820 are facing very strong competition in a ever more crowded market.  Are the new Lumias going to be winners?  We think so.

sources: Reuters, Futurezone.at and Winfuture.de via WMPoweruser

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posted on 08 Sep 2012, 02:47 25

1. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Well, I don't think so.
Winners compared to Lumia 900 yes, but against galaxy and iphone sales, it can't win.
I put a bet that even the Note 2 will sell much more than Lumia 920.
Who's on?

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 02:50 19

3. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)

I'm with you on the note2.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 04:09 14

15. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)

Gnote 2 ROCKS!

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 05:19 10

20. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

as about that i think the lumia 920 and not 2 is just 2 different phones

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 05:54 5

22. denied911 (banned) (Posts: 361; Member since: 31 May 2012)

can't deny that
only weight is similar

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 07:18 2

26. dr_fajardo12 (Posts: 118; Member since: 26 Aug 2012)

http://www.theverge.com/2012/9/7/3299784/nokia-lumia-920-pureview-camera-hi-res-photos take note

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:08 6

6. 23nikki1 (unregistered)

Entire Lumia sales were 7 million in 8 months while galaxy s III alone sold 10 million in 2months. The only reason to buy new lumia is because of its camera. But still €600 is very high...As usual Nokia pricing strategy...after one year, lumia 920 will be available for €300 or even less. Remember N98. My friend bought it for $700 and after an year or so, the price was $320

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:56 12

12. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

It also sold 20 millions in 100 days.
Three times better than S2, in comparison

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:57 14

13. naveenstuns (Posts: 177; Member since: 19 Feb 2012)


posted on 08 Sep 2012, 14:38

33. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)

True, but a bad phone certainly won't sell as many units as a good phone. I think the consensus is that the OG Lumias were underwhelming compared to their competition in either the Android or iOS segments.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:27 9

8. redmd (Posts: 1398; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

that's just an unfair comparison. Note 2 surely wins.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:49 2

11. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

i think i wont put a thumb on you!

however, i think if the pricing is true, the 920 wont sell hot like s3 did... maybe that time samsung will cut down the price of s3...

20 euros difference is still big!! and the "ecosystem" matters and WP8 will still catch up on android...

so if they will again do the strategy of lumia 900 to US market it will sure boom!!! even they a lot of us think that WP is really as good as android.. consumers might not like it coz its pricy..so cheaper attempt will be a good strategy...

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 05:12 5

19. joseph98 (Posts: 167; Member since: 03 Feb 2012)

I am with you on GN II... And here is why.

We all know about the fake video but did you know guys about the fake photos of this new lumia 920. Click on the link below and see how nokia is so fake. no wounder why there stock got beaten so bad.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 05:32 1

21. allen83 (Posts: 107; Member since: 01 Mar 2012)

gnote 2 will win for sure! But if nokia will promote n9 in the past months and support it i will bet in the n9

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 06:31 2

23. Angkor (Posts: 108; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

Nokia can't win Samsung with all in-house components, Samsung can make a new phone in 2 months it will take Nokia 6 months to look for components, assemble and test.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 08:22 2

27. jan25 (Posts: 470; Member since: 26 Feb 2012)

by November, we'll be starting to get hyped up for the next Nexus along with the release of the Note 2 and may be a new HTC flagship with competition cramped by the IPhone 5 and other manufacturers like LG and Moto. i don't see a bright future for the Lumia sorry.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 10:21 2

28. No_Nonsense (unregistered)

That's because the Lumia is not an established brand name like the iPhone/Galaxy S (s2,s3 and so on) line and WP is yet to catch up with people. The 920 is a topnotch phone yes, but I'll agree with you on the sales not matching up on the next iPhone/Note 2/S3 and so on. But I'll buy one because that's a great phone.

posted on 12 Sep 2012, 08:33

54. AeroPrime (Posts: 175; Member since: 21 Feb 2011)

I'm not talking rocket science here. Why are you guys so concern of lumia 920 announcing too early.... the number of cores....and other specs.... you commented on this article itself cause you guys are interested... Remember android wasn't popular. I quote "Android has no future", "I don't think is gonna make it". This happens in a cycle. Unbelievers, believers and people just don't give a damn. Why do you guys keep comparing specs with Android quad core phones. WP8 isn't like android phones that requires so many cores just to run smoothly. What happen to engineering factor and efficiency. It seems you guys are not thinking about the efficiency and engineering put on the WP8. You are comparing a car with large engine that produce so little horsepower to a car with smaller engine but produce twice as much power and much more energy efficient. It's not about the cores in the device ... is how device handle that power and optimize for efficiency to make it more reliable and more economical.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 02:50 10

2. XiphiasGladius (Posts: 813; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)

I believe It needs to be prized lower than the SGS3/HTC oneX for it to have a chance to have decent sales, I ain't saying it's a bad phone or it's price wont do justice for a phone of its caliber (coz it does) but for a phone line that is still poorly accepted globally they should price it competitively, IMHO.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:01 3

4. StreetNerd (Posts: 836; Member since: 08 Dec 2010)

true story, somehow Nokia doesnt understand that.... =(

but they will slash the price like they did with Lumia 800.

Lumia 800 launch: okt/nov 2011
jan 2012 is got it for free on 1 year contract (4x24euros+8x48euros)

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 10:24 3

29. Jeromeo (Posts: 135; Member since: 11 Jan 2010)

The Lumia900 went from $99 to free in a matter of months in the states.
Design is simply not as important as ecosystem! All models of the iPhone have looked nearly identical since it launched, but people still clamor over the new model.
Don't charge $758 for the 32gig model if the iPhone is $699 for its 64gig model...
Don't release a 41MP camera on a dying OS and then tantalize that the next Lumia will be similar (when it's absolutely not)...
Don't release an 8MP camera (btw, you've had the N8 for years) when this year's iPhone is likely to have a higher MP count and some kind of newer (or flashier) gimmick than floating lens...
Don't announce something BEFORE the iPhone announcement (with no carrier deals and only speculative pricing) and launch it AFTER the iPhone launch...
Don't release a dual core phones 6 months after quad core phones were announced and, yet, charge the same price for lesser technology...
Don't make excuses for why clean design denies memory card slots...
Don't build up the awesomeness of 'floating lens PureView technology' and then mention that 'oh, btw, the other model we've announced today doesn't have it'...
Don't announce a phone and then wait 3 months to release it...
They're checking to see who has the higher MegaPixel, sure, but they really wanna know who has the same number of apps that their friends have, who has the best price number for what you get, who has a higher number of "new" ideas (like iCloud and iSiri for example), and who has the same number of things I've come to expect on devices (because I've seen so many in the stores).
How many times can Nokia get punched in the stomach before it gets the message?

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 17:13

34. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)

To complete the list of Don't Do's:
Don't FAKE Videos

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 04:10 4

16. pikapowerize (banned) (Posts: 1869; Member since: 03 May 2012)

i know right!! it should be lower than those devices!!!

coz what if s3 and oneX cut down the price on christmas? do you think people will buy a smartphone with an OS that still play catch up in terms of ecosystems?!

consumers follow the trend... so nokia should market 920/820 or any other lumia devices that they are prepping in right!

s3 selling point is its quad core and a lot of goodies that most of the people will be satisfied like expandable memory, removable battery, slim, huge screen, bold and bright!

while 920 is a very compact and stylish yet very heavy (but i dont care, i like heavy phones coz i think its very sturdy and knowing nokia, it is sturdy coz 900 is really sturdy, the son of 3310) and no expandable memory and removable battery (no removable battery is ok but still hoping to have expandable memory or choices of memory like the iPhone and s3--it has 16/32/64) but the greatest camera on a WP yet....

but 820 should be sold at pricepoint lower than $450!!!

and hope nokia should announce a lower mid range... i hope they announce that nokia "zeal"... i think its a very good phone for people who like cheaper but compact!

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:01 5

5. robot9001 (banned) (Posts: 25; Member since: 06 Sep 2012)

600 euros for lumia 920. lol... too fat. no improvement over wp7 regards menus... no menu wallpaper. menu is too cluttered. i have wp7.5 ....i will not bother upgrading to 7.8 to get the new clustered menu

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 11:07 1

31. ahhxd717 (Posts: 332; Member since: 08 Dec 2011)

You can just size all the tiles to look like your 7.5 home screen. You don't HAVE to clutter it up...

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:24 2

7. redmd (Posts: 1398; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)

I really think Nokia needs a reboot. Every strategy seems off IMO.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:29 4

9. onggeo (Posts: 30; Member since: 20 Mar 2012)

Wow! I hope the prices aren't true. Those prices ARE TOO DAMN HIGH! lol I think the price of the 920 should be around the same as the SIII or even lower while the 820 should be around $400-$450 to be competitive.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 03:30 1

10. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1241; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)


posted on 08 Sep 2012, 04:04 4

14. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)

Lol at the red thumbs.
Windows phone fans are kind of creepy.
They were the same when Lumia 900 was releasing with wp 7.5
Just thumbing down on all that were saying anything against it, and rationally
predicted a massive flop, considering the price and the marketing campaign.

posted on 08 Sep 2012, 04:54 1

17. neutralguy (Posts: 1152; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

hahaha true true, but that's not limited to WP fans. Android and iOS fans also go on every article that discusses their OSes and try to thumbs down every anti-Android/iOS :))

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