EXCLUSIVE: Are Verizon's 4G LTE towers causing problems with Air Traffic Control?

EXCLUSIVE: Are Verizon's 4G LTE towers causing problems with Air Traffic Control?
When Verizon introduced it's 4G LTE network last year, it was only offered in a handful of cities, but was also put in at 62 of the nation's most busiest airports. Now we're receiving word that there may be some trouble.

According to our tipster...

"Verizon 4G Antenna's near or on any airport must be removed due to the fact that they are disrupting the communication from the Cockpit to the ATC ( Air Traffic Control) Towers on the airport. This is rumored to be a 27 Million Dollar job to move/rebuild all towers near many airports. The 4G Tower at Chicago O'Hare has been taken down recently. Verizon is trying to move the days of their 4G phone launch to have time to move/rebuild all of the towers by the end of February"

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source: The Digital Express Store

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24 Comments

1. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

If true, that is not good news for LTE.... I wonder how many travelers were looking forward to 4G speeds as they surfed the Internets waiting for their connecting flight? Not anymore.

17. Lucas777

Posts: 2137; Member since: Jan 06, 2011

well this possibly explains the thunderbolt delay...

2. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2294; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Well as they say: "Verizon: Rule the Air...and all that flies through it."

13. narley

Posts: 357; Member since: May 14, 2009

this comment is hil... airfocebase.

14. narley

Posts: 357; Member since: May 14, 2009

airforcebase*

3. Jim Morgan unregistered

You are correct Doug....this is a big blow for LTE not good at all.

4. rb68

Posts: 27; Member since: Apr 23, 2010

February 30th???? Really??? Was this originally posted in the Onion?

5. BaiGanyo

Posts: 308; Member since: Feb 07, 2011

That is pretty funny. Now that's some leap year news to the max.

6. Sniggly

Posts: 7305; Member since: Dec 05, 2009

If this is true, then it's going to be a problem for AT&T too, as their 4G will be LTE as well. Once again a magnificent spin job, Phonearena.

18. jd829

Posts: 155; Member since: Feb 24, 2010

True, but at&t also has their HSPA+ to fall back on, so not as big of a problem

7. hornetmx

Posts: 71; Member since: Mar 12, 2010

Oh my. I hope there is some shred of truth to this. Otherwise, phonearena is now the "The National Enquirer" of cellphone websites. A "tipster"? is that now what it takes to get an article posted in here? so there is a previous article saying the thunderbolt release was delayed due to the iphone and now is due to LTE towers..... well, I tried phonescoop and is even worse than here. I'm off to Engadget from now on since they seem to be the only ones dealing with real news. If you like rumors then this is the place to be! 10-4.

8. Faa-man unregistered

This is true, my father works for the FAA and told me that the frequency from the 4g tower are disrupting communication from the tower the cockpit at approach ( landing). This is serious because at major airports ( chicago o hare) it could cause a major disaster. That is why the tower in chicago was taken down. The only thing that sticks out is the feb 30th deadline to remove or move all towers.

9. tyler83 unregistered

Can someone please explain to me how aviation communication in the 118-137Mhz range interferes with Verizon LTE which is running in the 700Mhz range? FM Radio is closer to being an issue at 88-108Mhz than Verizon's LTE. Seriously? http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf

10. Ash NY unregistered

you are right Tyler I do not know how these illiterates gets their stupid baseless ideas starting with tech news website "Phone arena" ...

11. Sprintguy27 unregistered

Hmmm I wonder how wimax fairs with a similar scenario?

12. LionStone

Posts: 1048; Member since: Dec 10, 2010

Really? It was only offered in a "handful of cities"? I counted a handful just in California...

15. Tom Pica, Verizon Wireless unregistered

Both our cell site and our indoor antenna system are operational and we have not received any complaints. Our 4G LTE network has been up and running in 38 cities and 60 airports since Dec. 5, 2010. New devices on track for delivery soon.

22. no 4G unregistered

Tom I have a 4G pantech data card for my laptop and for 2 weeks now have no service and I use it at SFO airport. The 4G card works fine at home but not at the airport. So as far as no complaints you are wrong. I think the issue with the airports is true. Time for verizon to be honest with it's clients.

16. robertjm

Posts: 1; Member since: Feb 15, 2011

I didn't do the math to confirm, but it could beban issue of harmonics. These are frequencies above and/or below you actual operating frequency which get interfeared with due to equipment not having enough shielding. Think of it like ripples in a pool when you throw a pebble in. There are clear ares between the bands that have no problems but the bands, which come in regular intervals have problems. After abcertain amount of frequency there is no problem because the harmonic signal has degraded so much. And like I said earlier a good portion of the problem is with the equipment experiencing the problem NOT the equipment supposedly causing the problem. Just ask any ham radio operator who has lived next to anyone with an older tube TV or Hammond-style organ (speaking from personal experience).

19. tyler83 unregistered

We are talking about a more than 500Mhz spread! This is not the problem Sprint was having with their Nextel freqs bleeding into first responder territory. I think that was less than 10Mhz of spectrum.

20. kg4icg

Posts: 83; Member since: May 18, 2008

Aircraft frequencies are at 118-137 mhz and also in the 225-380 mhz. Now take VZW's LTE frequencies and divide them by 2 and also 4, and you will see the interference factor. You could say there is a resonant IF factor in which IF means intermediate frequency. It happens, and sometimes it means lowering power and placing filters in the troubling system which reduces the range of said system.

21. kg4icg

Posts: 83; Member since: May 18, 2008

Oh by the way, my knick is my callsign.

23. Alex unregistered

Here is a link to another story that puts it into a little more light. Look at the last paragraph and see why this is totally false.http://www.phonenews.com/debunked-verizon-not-moving-4g-cellsites-due-to-interference-with-air-traff ic-control-15875/ Yup TWO months after initial deployment we have issues. Right.

24. Anuran unregistered

Aviation and maritime frequencies are 2-156 mhz. Verizon LTE is 700 mhz. So the tipster is all wrong about this issue.

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