Did the Apple iPhone outsell Android at AT&T's corporate locations by nearly 8 to 1 this month?

Did the Apple iPhone outsell Android at AT&T's corporate locations by nearly 8 to 1 this month?
According to a source for the Mac Observer, the Apple iPhone represented a large part of AT&T's sales this month. From December 1st through the 27th, two-thirds of the carrier's sales were for Apple's iconic touchscreen device if the information passed along by the tipster is correct. Based on that information, AT&T's iPhone sales outnumbered the combination of all of the carrier's Android phones by 7.8 to 1.

According to Mac Observer, 981,000 copies of the iPhone were sold by AT&T for the month through this past Tuesday while at the same time 126,000 Android handsets were sold by the second largest carrier in the country. Some might consider the numbers to be incorrect considering that the source claims that AT&T's sales of featurephones at 128,000 units was greater than Android sales.

It must be understood that the sales figures are for corporate stores only. This would eliminate phones sold at authorized resellers, telephone and website orders, and other stores that carry AT&T phones like Best Buy and Radio Shack. The fact that these stats only are for a small fraction of AT&T's overall sales might account for the overly lopsided nature of the figures. In addition, Android models own a greater than 50% share of the U.S. smartphone market which would make the nearly 8 to 1 ratio seem unlikely.

AT&T has sold  more than 6 million units of the Apple iPhone in the last two quarters and expects to do even better in the current three month period. The three models of the phone offered by the carrier, the Apple iPhone 4S, iPhone 4 and iPhone 3GS accounted for 56% of AT&T's sales in Q3 and if Mac Observer's source is right, that figure rises to 66% in Q4 at AT&T's corporate locations. Featurephones come in next at 8.6% of AT&T's sales with Android third at 8.5%. We might have to see a listing of all of AT&T's quarterly sales before we can come to a legitimate conclusion.

source: MacObserver via electronista



1. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

A) BS. B) of course iphone sales are going to be high for the quarter (but not that high), the i4s just launched. talk to me again in 4 months when its old hat to whatever the new android flagship is. c) even if by off chance from a cold day in hell those number were accurate its one carrier in the world. android is activating at a rate of almost 3 to 1 at this point.. even on december. if its that good for apple at ATT that means its that bad somewhere else to make up the difference.

17. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

A). Lol!! Android users are so funny. Look how quick you are to call it BS. Whenever Android users read good news about iPhone, I imagine them closing their eyes, shaking their heads and whispering "No, no, nope, android is the best, no way, can't be true, impossible, I won't accept this...." B.) Why are Android users always living in the future?? You currently having amazing devices like the Galaxy SII, the Droid RAZR, the Galaxy Nexus, etc and you're talking about flagship android devices 4 months from now? Wow, sounds like you're throwing in the towel early for Android's current devices. And P.S., in 4 months the iPhone would be half a year old. I'd expect a brand new Android handset to sell better. C.) I don't think Android sales were higher in December. A recent report said that iOS and Android activated 6.8 million devices on the 25th. Andy Rubin said there were 3.7 million activated Android handsets on the 24th AND 25th. If we assume about 2/3rds of Android devices were activated on the 25th, then that would be about 2 - 2.5 million devices on the 25th, leaving 4.3 - 4.8 million for iPhone. This would mean that throughout the month of December, more people were purchasing iPhones than Android phones, which would support some theories and articles (like the one with the growing Android marketshare in economically unstable UK) that Android is in many ways a bargain platform.

20. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

@E.N. I agree with you. I don't' see why it always has to be such a big deal if the iPhone outsells android devices or vice versa. It's like it's a crime that someone could possibly have a personal preference other than what someone else chooses. With hundreds of Android phones on the market from high end to low end versus 3 possible iPhone choices, I would think that if you did a platform war that Android would come out on top. Instead of a platform war, why not a manufacturer war? I'm sure Samsung, Motorola, HTC, etc don't care about Android market share, they only care about how many of their phones are sold. Let's not forget that only Apple produces iOS phones and that Android phones are made by many manufacturers.

26. LawrenceTheMute

Posts: 2; Member since: Dec 31, 2011

I work for att.... this graph might represent core stores because they had the iphones in stock so people HAD to go there to get them. however on the retailer side... it was android all the way, they represented 3/4 of my sales with messaging phones and iphones mixed together at 1/4 of the sales.

28. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

lol... the future .. the sg2 has been outselling the i4 in the bulk of countries since its launch. My point was the increase is because the phone is new and it will subside in a few months when it's not.

43. 530gemini

Posts: 2198; Member since: Sep 09, 2010

@remix. When did sgs2 outsell the ip4s? It could not even outsell the ip4, much more the ip4s, lol. Oh yeah, in fandroid land it did :-)

49. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

just because your a blind ibot and refuse to see anything that isnt pro-apple doesnt make it true. you dont have to look any further thanwww.phonearena.com for the proof. if you are too lazy or ignorant to look up the data, its not my fault.

30. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

I gotta side with E.N. on this one too actually! Because of the iPhones introduction and AT&T's heavy push, carriers were kinda forced to choose sides. Every carrier chose a manufacture or OS it thought could make an "iPhone-killer". VZW failed miserably with the LG Voyager and Dare, and the Blackberry Storm. Sprint almost succeeded with the Palm Pre, but it quickly lost steam because of Palm weird marketing strategy and lack of developer support. T-Mobiles choice to back the Android OS proved to be the best choice, but the G1 wasn't the looker the iPhone was. It wasn't until VZW launched the Motorola Droid that Apple started to get a little real competition and brought Android into the spotlight. Sprint saw the light and launched the HTC Hero, and the Evo, and the battle lines were drawn. It was every CARRIER against the iPhone at that point and that push for Droids and Androids because just as much a part of their cultures as the iPhone became a part of AT&T's. And even though Sprint and VZW now have the iPhone as well, you can tell its a little harder for sales reps to adjust to the change. So I can see how it would be the same for reps and even customers to think anything but iPhone when it comes to AT&T because for so long the two were synonymous with each other. I also think that's why so many people still get their iPhones from AT&T even though in most situations, VZW's version outperforms AT&T's in just about every category. With that said, E.N. you are right about one more thing...Android is the best, hands down.

36. godsarmylds

Posts: 36; Member since: Mar 05, 2010

Okay, I'm sorry i don't think one carrier out there wants to side with apple. If they could they would get them off their shelves. Lets look at whats been going on with carriers with the apple phone. ATT got the iphone and they let their network go to crap and got rid of the 5 gig plan and switched to the 2 gig plan. Verizon got rid of the $30 buck 5 gig plan and now a 30 buck 2 gig plan and now you see an increase in the cost of an android phone. Sprint got them and the first thing they tried to do was drop the unlimited data. And can't see how the coming months this iphone will bring that carrier down. And T-mobile g gully i really hope they dont get the iphone next year. Customers don't get it cause they are so dumb. But by getting a the shiny iphone your Fing your own damn carrier. It cost the phone company to much money to hold the iphone. Yea be excited about your dumb phone but except the fact that apple will be Fing one way or the other.

46. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

I can see why you say that, the iPhone seems to be an albatross around the neck of all the carriers it's on. But the unlimited data thing was decided well before the iPhone came to VZW or Sprint because of the shortage of bandwidth and the increasing amount of smartphone users. I'm with on another thing to, knowing the kind of subsidies they have to pay you would think they really would want to get the iPhone off of their shelves. But the iPhone brings in customers like no other device and in the mobile industry, bringing in new subscribers and lowering churn is all carriers are concerned with. They figure they make up the money in other ways, like adding a stupid $2 fee to pay your bill. Or raising the cost of Android phones to make up the difference. But thats nothing an online petition or a trip to amazon.com can't fix. We're consumers, we're not stupid!

62. tedkord

Posts: 17456; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

"We're consumers, we're not stupid!" Ever heard of the pet rock? Or Ron Popeil's spray on hair? Or, hell, the Kardashian shows? By and large, we are extremely stupid and bandwagon jumpers, and advertisers know it and count on it. Make it pretty, shiny and the cool thing to own, and we flock to it regardless of quality, usability or value.

63. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

Lol! Okay, those are perfect examples of how stupid consumers can be at times. Especially the Kardashian shows. Not one of them have ANY kind of talent, yet they have 10 reality shows...why?

67. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

is there really 10 shows for those idiots???? who the hell watches that crap!?!?! lol reality tv is for morons.

47. Lucas777

Posts: 2137; Member since: Jan 06, 2011

why would they chose to sell the iphone then? both verizon and sprint (obviously) wanted it... u think they dont want to drop unlimited? u think they dont want to give less data? it makes more money for them.. and the iphone gives them the oppurtunity to do that

50. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

adjust to the change? did you know that ATT corporate reps had an "iphone quota" that they had to meet as well as their regular quotas to keep their jobs? no other US carrier has an "iphone quota" outside of ATT.

64. Whateverman

Posts: 3295; Member since: May 17, 2009

Are you serious?! That is so stupid! But hey, this is AT&T we're talking about.

66. dha_george

Posts: 54; Member since: Jan 27, 2010

that is not true att corporate reps did not have an iphone quota

68. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

amazing that every ex-ATT employee that i come across said that their was. Who should i believe.. hmm....

69. BenCjamin

Posts: 80; Member since: May 13, 2011

Wow remixfa, i just list some respect for you there. I've never gone into my at&t and had them try to sell me the iphone. the other thing is the iphone sells itself because it's an apple product and unfortunately consumers assume because it is apple it's amazing. look at the ipad. Apple didn't invent the tablet, touch screen tablets had been around for at least 2 to 3 years before the ipad came out but because it was apple they sold like crazy.

70. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

you lose respect for me because i chose to believe the 10 or so ex-ATT reps that i work/worked with that all said that there was an iphone quota when they worked there? lol. Maybe its changed since the iphone has gone to multiple carriers. But hey, if respect is lost because i believe my friends over strangers on the internet.. not much i can do about that. :)

51. ladyhaly

Posts: 106; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

You know, you might have gotten away looking smart and unbiased if hadn't you mentioned that A & B part. You go off saying that to Android users when the iPhone users behave in the same manner? There is really no difference as to how the fanatics behave. However, this whole sludge of info coming from a reporter of MAC OBSERVER... Don't you think that's just a bit unfair?

59. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

Well technically, nothing I said directly referred to this Mac Observer article about At&t and Apple outselling 8 to 1. My last comment with the 6.8 million devices activated suggested it could possibly be true, but I never said I believed the reports. I just commented on how quick people are to disbelieve anything pro-Apple. I think all of these reports are unfair and BS but that doesn't stop us from talking about them. Android users definitely do more attacking than iPhone users. I mean in articles like Nexus vs Rezound, Nexus vs Razr, and Nexus Review, there are almost no annoying pro-iPhone comments. But compare to any iOS thread (like all the iPad rumors) and you may even see more Android users. Sometimes I skip commenting on threads because there are just way too many stupid comments from Android users. Saying iPhone and Android users behave the same would be a lie.

52. bvalde09

Posts: 191; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

Mmmm ok here is deal ATT was the only carrier that had the iphone of course the numbers will be like this I mean every customer with an iphone will just upgrade to the new version of the device. Is not that they just bring the Iphone to the table. I would like to see what Sprint (Since the just bring the product) sales look like.............. IS poinless saying that IOS is better than android and viceversa. IOS is good as long as you jailbroke you device and android is good as is..... Cellphone users should know that SGS2 is a top product as well the iphone

78. krazdjokr26 unregistered

"No, no, nope, android is the best, no way, can't be true, impossible, I won't accept this...." BWAHAHAHA!!! this made my day...

74. iDroidx650

Posts: 83; Member since: May 26, 2010

you don't know the facts. iPhone sells way more than any phone in my store. We don't push phones out. Consumers just want the iPhone 4S.

2. p0rkguy

Posts: 685; Member since: Nov 23, 2010

AT&T stays riding that Apple's d*ck. They have to. If they didn't they wouldn't have a chance in the mobile world. It's so simple, what do you think of when you think of AT&T? Verizon? Sprint? T-Mobile? I see Apple plastered all over AT&T regardless of how much other carriers advertise about them carrying the iPhone.

3. baldilocks

Posts: 1543; Member since: Dec 14, 2008

You aren't really making much sense at all. Just so you know.

4. p0rkguy

Posts: 685; Member since: Nov 23, 2010

Then please tell me why it doesn't make sense.

18. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

well for one, you didn't fully explain why AT&T is riding Apple's penis. And you didn't explain why they wouldn't have a chance in the mobile world if they didn't ride Apple. Obviously you think of iPhone when you think of AT&T, but that may be just you. What do you think of when you when you see Verizon, Sprint, and T-Mobile? Android, Android, Android? If you do then you shouldn't because iPhones are often the best selling devices across all carriers (except T-Mobile for obvious reasons). And when the Motorola Atrix 4G launched, AT&T heavily marketed that device as "the most powerful smartphone in the world." So there's your argument circling the drain.

32. p0rkguy

Posts: 685; Member since: Nov 23, 2010

When people subscribe to AT&T, they're likely to get a BB or iPhone. Android has no presence on AT&T. If you actually stepped into a store that carried the iPhone, it's all the employees do push it. Why? Maybe it helps sales, maybe it's what they know, maybe they were told to. I don't know and it isn't irrelevant but it is all they want to push. May be just what I think? Lol. You visit a phone blog you're likely to know almost every phone available on your subscriber and more. Go ahead and ask random people on the streets, "What phones can you get on AT&T? Verizon? Sprint? T-Mobile?" They'll tell you iPhone 90%+ for AT&T. It's not what I think but what you're stating is clearly what YOU think.

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