Code reveals how the iPhone 8's resizable home key could look, tips 240fps slow-mo at 1080p


Among new HomePod firmware revelations about the upcoming iPhones, such as slow-mo video with 240fps at 1080p instead of 720p, and "MultiBiometrics" security, code diggers have found this gem - the iPhone 8's virtual home button might be resizable, and there could indeed be a "function" area around it, as analysts predicted.

Developer Steve Troughton-Smith has made a deep dive into the HomePod firmware code with the specific goal to find any reference to an on-screen home key, as many analysts tipped the lack of a physical one on the iPhone 8. Lo and behold, he found it, and here are the juicy tidbits, straight from the Troughton's mouth:

In a nutshell, the new home button of the "all-screen" iPhone 8 could very well look like what you see in the short vid below - big and omnipresent at the home screen, with apps opening up above its navbar, while media or games that requires full screen can hide it out of the way completely until you need it again. The fact that you may not be able to change its color or shade lends another credence to the "function" area that Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo was talking about when referring to the bottom of the iPhone 8 screen. At the time, he also mentioned that the "active" display area will be 5.15", so there could indeed be a navigation strip at the iPhone 8's bottom. What else it might be used for, remains to be seen.


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46 Comments

46. galaxius

Posts: 82; Member since: Sep 06, 2014

Apple's evolution into Android :)

45. Derass

Posts: 149; Member since: Aug 06, 2015

The notch is awful. 1&2 look better but the phone lacks symmetry overall. I think the S8 and G6 got it right sacrificing screen-to-body ratio for symmetry. Particularly the G6, it has great proportions, the S8 is too tall and skinny.

37. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

The overall look is OK. Problem is, there should not be distraction in the viewing area. Stadium designers have spent millions on creating designs that give views a 100% non-obstructed view of everything. They worked and came up with a way to hold up thousands of seats, without using pillar and posts that block views. TV's and monitors for years have never had any obstruction in the viewing area. NEVER. So I question how no one is against the notch in he viewing area? Samsung dropped the colors from the front of the phone, to make the phone appear to have a single continuous display. Even though phones in the past have all had colored bezels, they didn't interfere with what we were viewing, but making it black does make it look better. But when you have a full display and you put a piece of tape in the viewing area, woudl that not distract you? So why is it OK for Apple to loop the cameras and sensors into the display area, when they never had a phone like that before? In fact no one has? But when the Essential phone was shown, with its smaller notch in the display, iFans said its ugly, or that is stupid and blah blah blah. But yet your phone has a bigger hole in the display area, but this is OK?

40. kiko007

Posts: 7526; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

There is no way you're working solid hours typing all of these essays. I can't imagine being that obsessive over inanimate objects.

30. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

If Samsung or any other OEM would have placed a "notch" into the display area, they would have been ridiculed to death. "Oh what a stupid idea to interfere with the viewing spoace. Android is garbage and blah blah blah" But Apple does it? Oh its no big deal, best design ever. God bless Amer...errrr Apple! Apple can do no wrong. We don't need 1440p because you can't tell the difference. Apple said so. We dopn't care if we don't have BT5.0, 1ghz modems, fast charging. Apple says we don't need them and Apple always knows what's best. Jesus Christ, I mean Steve Jobs sits at God's right ear and he knows what's best for us. Look how many we sell. No other OEM's sells as many phone. Well they have, but we don't care because Apple makes all the money and still charges us more money for less older crap. But we don't care because Apple is the God of everything alive and dead. Everything we say bad about other phones, is 100% true of our phone. But we don't care because, we are programmed to disrespect anything that doesn't have an Apple logo on it. Didn't you all see the movie? The day Apple made the Sun stand still? How about Apple 2013? Apple killed the dinosaurs, so they couldn't eat us millions of years ago, so that we could enjoy our iProducts in peace! Apple is the greatest thing since PBJ, sliced bread, apple pie and everlasting life! Its Apple or Bust - Says all Apple fans everywhere!

34. cmdacos

Posts: 4424; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Long winded as usual but a couple of valid points made. The unibrow is one of the oddest design choices of modern phones. Same with Essentials and Sharps cut outs. The isn't a good way to make these look good or offset the media. Far better ways to implement mini bezels.

38. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I was trying to be Apple fan dramatic. To make a point. Ugly in fairness is a preference unless its so ugly that no one would prefer to say anything else. I am all for any OEm being different, but this is dump for lots of reasons./ 1 - Movies. I think it is fair to say, all of us watch some type of movie on a display. Right? So, everyone was bitchin' about Samsung S8's using a new aspect ratio, that media creators have not created a format for yet. Which has been true of all phones even iPhone prior to the S8. So y talked abouthe black bars. Well this phone will also have them, because it will also be using a aspect ratio, that isn't support yet ad a non-standa resolution which will cause all media to have a black bar. But no one is saying anything, because they know they criticized the S8 for it and they know we will chime in and rebuke them. SO what happens now when you watch a movie? Well for now the notch won't be an issue, because of the reslution, every single movie you watch, that is at least 1080p or above will have a bar on both sides, so thus the notch wont be in the view of the video. But once you hit the button to make the movie fit the screen, how annoying is it gonna be if it fits to the top corners where the notch is? Unless Apple is gonna prevent this in software which would be even more dumb, because what good is all that screen if you can't use it? Its a dumb design idea as it is for the Essential phone. Bezels are for holding and its been using to incase home buttons, sensors and the like. Reducing them means you have to make sure those things fit, or they must be remove if you can. But you can't claim to have a 5.8" display as an example, if you don't have access to all 5.8" of it at any one time. Suppose God when he made you eyeball, made it so your eyelashes, blocked part of your view. Based on who the eye and face are designed now, would that make any sense? So why is it ok for Apple to do this? Or anyone for that matter? The candy-bar style phone, has reach its pinnacle of design on the very first model. All they can do now is make them then, reduce bezels, bend the top and sides. So nothign is left except folding them. But placing a notch in the viewing area is dumb, yet I have not see one person who plans to buy this talk bad. But yet those same fools like CNOUR for example, claims the S8 design is ugly? So either he is an unintelligent 5 year old who can't buy the phone anyways and plays with his moms phone, or he is a delirious troll who is just here to start fights by always saying negative things about other phones that aren't even true. The S8 is not ugly. Anyone who claims it is is stupid. The iPhone 8 overall is ugly because it basically looks like the past phones and they did something stupid with the display that is not practical or useful.

36. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1382; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Techie I may not agree with all you say but on this one I really have to say you have a point "If Samsung or any other OEM would have placed a "notch" into the display area, they would have been ridiculed to death. "Oh what a stupid idea to interfere with the viewing spoace. Android is garbage and blah blah blah" But Apple does it? Oh its no big deal, best design ever." I mean I don't understand how people can be so hypocritical - People the display is manufactured by Apples big rival _ Samsung . Love them or hate them the OLED Screen is a Samsung innovation. The NAN flash mostly likely in the Phone will be produced by Samsung among other things. They are not things that they produce from the "hip" to see what sticks - they are industry standards. apart from the os the "hardware will make the iPhone8 well and iPhone8" I know the disdain for Samsung but really?

39. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Because most of those guys are trolls. Yes I agree I don't know why they are hypocritical. FACT - Every negative thing that Apple users hae said about ANY prodct, whether it be Windows or Android especially, its true of their own. LAG - Do Smausng devices have lag? Sure they do. But not like these fools claim. In the past they were terrible. I didn't buy the S4, even though I had an S3, because the features of it made the device very laggy. The S3 was perfect. The S5 was certainly better and the S6/7/8 are virtually lag-free. But yes they do stutter sometimes and yes it is annoying at time when I may be in a hurry. But Its a far better experience, that launching an app and having it simply not open at all because it crashed, or open and watch it crash. iPhone's lag too. Why? Because its a computer and all computers lag at some point. Whether they lag more or less depends on way to many varables and I wont waste time mentioning any other than, what did you install. Ther are MILLIONS of articles/videos/search results on how to get rid or deal with iPhone lag. But the fans claim their devices don't lag. Well many people use Samsung devices and don't experience it either. But here is the difference. When ist an iPhone, if their device doesn't lag, then they claim they all do't lag and if they experience lag on just one Android, then ALL Android devices are laggy. Hypocrisy at its best. They can't when the specs had hardware argument. SO they deflect saying we don't need them. Well everything isn't about need. Sure I dont need 1440p. But even with it, my device last longer than yours on a single charge. So why shouldn't i have it. You're paying as much as me or more, and you don't have it. And because you don't have it, you fell I shouldn't either? It doesn't work like that. Apple fasn have always been liek this since the 80's in the Mac hayday. They have and never will change. They are the most anoying bunch of @$$' ever. But every site I frequent, allows them to troll, start fights and flame wars, and post off-topic BS with no moderation whatsoever. Then when those with sense try to defend, we get banned, limited, warned and whatever. Its BS and I get tired ot it. As people who love tech. We should love or hate on some level to a point where we openly criticize stupid moves and applaud good. We have to take what we get, but we don't have to talk bad about something we don't even use, just to make what they have seem better, even when in point blank its not. But Apple fans can't help themselves because they have always had less and not had the best and when other have better they are threaten by it. They start squabbles over the most mundane BS. Even when their own product is equally bad or worse.

28. diggie32

Posts: 388; Member since: Apr 03, 2016

I wish android manuf put this much care in making phones, instead of shooting from the hip and seeing what sticks.

29. tedkord

Posts: 17532; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If it weren't for those Android phones, this iPhone wouldn't look like this.

32. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1382; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Agreed.

31. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1382; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Wait a minuet - Oled is shooting from the hip? Larger displays are shooting from the hip? QHD is shooting from the hip? f1.7 apertures are shooting from the hip? Full NFC support is shooting from the hip? IP68 rating is shooting from the hip? IMX sensor are shooting from the hip. Full Bloothoth 4.x to 5.x, Knock to awake, active display Boom Sound etc.. are all shooting from the hip? I think in the hey day, maybe with the whole 3D camera stuff, there was a bit of that. But that was a while ago. SONY, LG , Samsung , Nokia all spend countless dollars of R&D on these features and integrate them into their respective devices long ago and continue to refined them since then. Making them standards of the mobile industry and not just seeing what sticks. Give credit where credit is due at least.

44. tedkord

Posts: 17532; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Inside the RDF, anything that isn't Apple is terrible.

27. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1382; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Looks good to me. I think its about time Apple implements oled and Bezel-less design. Best to them.

21. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

1080p at 240fps, hmm not bad but Sony can do better with 720p at 960fps. That's 300% more frames per second. But who cares? Apple's gonna claim innovation anyway to feed them sheeps.

23. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

Another Techie's sheeple.....

24. kiko007

Posts: 7526; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

FFS, is the calling of names just a f**king necessity for petty Android users? Seriously, I've never seen a group of people so clueless as to their own nature. You're just a sheep from a different flock, only said flock doesn't get preferential treatment.

19. EC112987

Posts: 1216; Member since: Nov 10, 2014

Keeping my 7 plus and matching it up with the note8. Want a phone with bezels lol

18. sissy246

Posts: 7129; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

If that is it in that video, that is ugly as F

16. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

1080p at 240fps... sounds OP. Though the actual video quality is still to be seen.

11. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

Google, Samsung and the others will have a lot of jobs next year!!!!

12. gigicoaste

Posts: 468; Member since: Feb 21, 2016

Samsung still has "a lot of jobs" by delivering display panels and various parts for IPhones.. since.. some time already. Same about Intel as far as I heard for modems. LG too.. and many other companies... yeah!

9. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

The first version I like the most. You don't notice that ugly gap and still some use for that little bit of extra space on each side.

8. cmdacos

Posts: 4424; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

If this is real that looks horrible. The Home key is always visible? And the unibrow on top didn't seem to be blacked out all the time. Very odd design choices.

5. amasog

Posts: 552; Member since: Aug 22, 2013

Hilarious bezels. Sony. Nokia. Htc.

6. Martin_Cooper

Posts: 1774; Member since: Jul 30, 2013

Google(Pixel)

4. Cat97

Posts: 2077; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

Walks all over the competition, to be honest. But there are probably 2 maybe even 4 months until release...maybe Samsung and LG will wake up (the others are already living in the distant past with their hilarious bezels).

7. Cyberchum

Posts: 1149; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

Apple has being the king of bezels since forever, and sheeples have always defended them. Now, small bezels/'bezeless' is, all of a sudden, great. What really happened to the "not practical" arguments? The idea seems to be to criticize something you don't have, that is until you have it.

13. submar

Posts: 713; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Yeah. They might add a back button and an overview button beside the home button as well. "and here are the juicy tidbits, straight from the Troughton's mouth" Ewww

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