Carriers strongly prefer Windows Phone to Symbian and Meego

Carriers strongly prefer Windows Phone to Symbian and Meego
In the last week, we've gotten the news that the Meego-powered Nokia N9 would not be released in the US, UK or Germany. Of course, not everyone is happy to see the N9 hitting more and more potholes before even being released. So, a concerned user e-mailed Nokia CEO Stephen Elop about the N9, asking that the phone be made available as a subsidized option in the UK. 

Surprisingly, Elop responded to the e-mail. Less surprising was that the response kept up Nokia's aims to support Windows Phone. Since the announcement of the Nokia/Microsoft partnership, there have been rumblings about the demise of Symbian and Meego. Symbian lovers at least have a bit of hope, given that Elop has promised Symbian updates through 2016 at the earliest. Meego lovers are having a tougher time of it, especially since Elop essentially declared the platform dead, regardless of the success of the N9

In responding to the concerns over the N9, Elop said that the N9 should be available in the UK through online retailers, but immediately pushed Windows Phone, which he said offers a "great user experience and that beats the competition." Presumably, "the competition" includes both Symbian and Meego, because in a following response, Elop added that Nokia has no control over what carriers offer, but that "many of the larger operators are showing a strong preference towards WP."

The future certainly doesn't look good for Meego. It might be best to put away any hopes it'll survive. 

source: Maemo Talk via WP Sauce



1. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

in other words, carriers would rather make a little money than no money at all. :)

2. TreyTreyTaylor

Posts: 728; Member since: Dec 21, 2010

Damn nokia. You hype the hell out of a new product and literally f**k it up before it even launches. You shot Symbian fans down, left android out in the cold, gave meego a half assed debut, and placed all bets on yet to be appreciated WP7. Who would want one of their smartphones now? Not me. I'll wait oh so patiently for my Nexus Prime. :P

3. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

I don't think that this is true. I think that the operators have a boycott on WP7, because of Microsofts purchase of Skype and plans to integrate it in WP7 and W8. read Tomi Ahonens communities dominate blog and you will see what i mean.

4. Mobile-X-Pert

Posts: 565; Member since: Dec 20, 2010

At the end is the consumer that chooses the phone not the carrier. If the WP7 phone with skype integration become really popular and the carriers don't want it, the consumer is till going to get it.

5. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

Well, but isn't most phones sold on contract with an operator ? Without the support of operators WP7, will never take off.

6. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

Peter, Name a carrier that isnt carrying WP7 now or in the near future. They are all carrying it. That is your answer. There is no boycot. Some guys blog doesnt move an industry.

8. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

I can name lots of carriers here in euorpe that doesn't have WP7. here is a list of the operators i know of that arenot selling WP7. telenor (the operator im using, they have unlimited data : D), Telia, Tele2, comviq, O2, vodafone. In fact, the only operators i know of that have WP7 are Orange and Tre (three).

9. Mobile-X-Pert

Posts: 565; Member since: Dec 20, 2010

I personally like to pay for unlock phones rather than carriers's locked phones.

10. Mobile-X-Pert

Posts: 565; Member since: Dec 20, 2010

By the way the same thing happened to Android when it first came out, not many carriers had android phones and look at it now, every single carrier has an android phone. Nobody knows what's gonna happend in the future but WP7 has a lot of potential that's for sure.

13. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

I always buy unlocked phones rather than carrier locked ones.

18. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

I think carriers are more interested in WP7, simply because they have immaculate speed and responsiveness. My friend just got the stock Evo (came with 2.3.3 = no root) and the phone is such a piece. It lags everywhere and the battery is horrible on it. I, thankfully got the phone when there was 2.2 on it. This is the problem with Android, they don't have the hardware to run the OS yet. Yeah, the GSII is coming to town, but that is just the start. That is how the phones should run (YouTube GSII). Windows looks nicer (IMO) and the user interface is amazing. I'd much prefer stability and a fast, battery efficient OS.

19. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

Agree with you that Android is not very stable. If you want a OS thats fast, battery efficient and stable i recomend you have a look at Symbian, IOS or bada. WP7 is not battery effecient at all. My WP7 only lasted maybe 8 - 9 hours with nomal use. And u experienced several severe bugs with WP7 as well.

20. Dj21o

Posts: 437; Member since: May 19, 2011

Yeah, I will most likely go with the GSII. I feel WP7 isn't completely there, but neither is Android. I have had great experiences with Android, and I love the development community at XDA. iOS doesn't feel right to me, either. There is too many friggen icons to where I would look longer than on my Android. At least I know I can find/make shortcuts right on my homescreen with Android lol. Or my launcher (GSII TouchWiz) will allow me to look at a list instead. I still haven't had a chance to see Bada... Is there support with it in the US yet?

22. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

I'd definitely choose the GS2 over WP7. I'm not sure if there is support for bada with the US carriers, i haven't been in the US since 2003. If there aren't any US carriers that have bada phones, there should be at least online shops that sell them. But anyway, if you'd consider buying a phone with bada, i'd anyway wait for the Wave 3, as it is rumored to have simimilar specifications as the GS2. And i would guess that the Wave 3 would be available in the US.

7. ryq unregistered

what elop is saying is dont buy nokia for now until their wp phones came out. so to the few people who still plan to buy nokia phone like the n8 or x7 or e7. the top honcho at nokia is telling you to buy android or apple phones intead.

11. Nokia fan unregistered

I don't no why Elop would turn down Meego OS just for no reason.Meego is the trend changer,a whole new experience that no other OS has.N9 is one of a kind.there's nothing like it in the market and it can easily bring back Nokia in business people are more desperate for it than when they were for when HTC EVO 3D and Optimus 3D was to come out but by not launching it in the main markets they are going put themselves in more losses eventually.Windows OS is also a nice OS to use .I would suggest to Elop to launch N9 in the main markets,use both OS like Samsung is using android and bada in this way everyone will be happy.Please consider this.

12. chocolatebear76

Posts: 123; Member since: Mar 03, 2011

I don't understand why most people are so disappointed of Nokia turning it's back on Meego?Meego is an open source which is great like Android and other phone manufactural's like LG have mention thier intention to use Meego in future,or maybe is just the sexy handset you guys are dying to get your handson,if so then i can understand,fair enough

14. ryq unregistered

what flag is that or is that a real flag?

16. Goldeneye

Posts: 419; Member since: Jan 22, 2011


15. cheeseycheeser

Posts: 413; Member since: Mar 24, 2011

Honestly, it seems like Nokia is trying to run themselves further into the ground... I mean, Symbian needed to go, but Meego looks pretty nice! However they announce it, rave about it, market it (sorta, anyway) then say NOPE BETCHEZ! NO MEEGO FOR YOU! Now take your corporate consolation prize. Microsoft! (*big smile to camera*) Be What's Next! Or something...

17. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

How sad that Nokia sold themselves to M$ while their Symbian phone didnt do so well. I still would love to have a Symbian phone but it looks it wont make it here to the States. I'll pass in the Nokia Windows phone.

21. MechaFatigue

Posts: 7; Member since: Jan 13, 2011

Nokia need a new CEO.

23. PeterIfromsweden

Posts: 1230; Member since: Aug 03, 2011

Yeah !

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