Apple to ditch Intel in Macs for its own processors, like the ones used in the iPad and iPhone

Apple to ditch Intel in Macs for its own processors, like the ones used in the iPad and iPhone
Bloomberg just broke a story that rose the hair on the back of Intel shareholders' necks, claiming that Apple is planning to put chips like the ones it designs for the iPad and the iPhone in its Mac line as well.

Apple has been really stepping up its homebrew processors game lately, dedicating huge resources to developing own line of chips, manually designing ARM-based silicon, and fine tuning them for its own iOS software. The iPad 4 is decimating the mobile competition in graphics benchmarks, and Apple is apparently confident enough that it can do the same for Macs and OSX.

The goal might be to have uniform chip technologies across all Apple products, fine-tuned for its own software, and, with time, we could very well see a convergence among Apple's desktop, laptop, tablet and phone experience. "If Apple Chief Executive Officer Tim Cook wants to offer the consumer of 2017 and beyond a seamless experience on laptops, phones, tablets and televisions, it will be easier to build if all the devices have a consistent underlying chip architecture," says the source.

The recent management reshuffling proves the point, with special attention given to the human interface department, where Jony Ive will try to unify and streamline the software, hardware and design story of Apple across its product range. We also had Bob Mansfield dragged out of retirement with a lucrative compensation offer, and tasked with supervising Apple's future chip designs, including making his dream system-on-a-chip, which might include the baseband radio too. Now we know why that might have been, and Intel shares plunged 2% in the short time that story broke right before market close, although Apple is not even 10% of its revenues now.

source: Bloomberg



1. kozza3

Posts: 778; Member since: Oct 17, 2012


6. AnTuTu

Posts: 1620; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

Good for Intel..!! And get ready for the overheating, slow speed, chips issues in Macbooks now.

10. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

ARM is MUUUUUCH power efficient than x86 hate apple but love arm design

13. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

For a mobile OS, sure, but mobile =/= desktop. In a few years, perhaps they may offer some equivalence, but it's still going to be somewhat limited without the software and OS to match. ios isn't it, so apple sure as heck better have something on the level of Windows8/Windows Phone8 if it plans on executing such a plan. Not only that, they have to have someone make these processors, and unless they're planning on making a multi-billion dollar investment in TSMC and magically build them new foundries and factories, that's not going to happen; they'll still be under the thumb of Samsung and such

19. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Trust me, they know what they are doing. Their swift seems to be amazingly power efficient, and with further development, I can see a Macbook version with say 2.5 gHz and six-eight cores, coupled with top of the line "Rogue" GPU's - that would probably put ivy bridge to shame.

21. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

dude arm rocks, a6 is great cpu with better than cortex a9 ram controller apple has money to make cpu much faster than risc/arm from ps3! and if they throw money at samsung, why not someone has to build them samsung will take not more than 50-100 bucks a piece and intel would take like 5-10 times that go back to your beloved microsoft and don't throw garbage at good articles

22. p0rkguy

Posts: 685; Member since: Nov 23, 2010

x86 is power. ARM is mobility. In terms of power, current ARM is only between Pentium 4 and Intel Core.

23. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

yep my 1 year sony laptop with i5 has 5000 in geekbench my note 2 overclocked to 1,8 and undervolt has 2400 it is only about two times slower !!! and btw internet explorer is so slow that it is as fast as stock browser on note2

25. Astri

Posts: 3; Member since: Sep 23, 2012

is not even close to Core. Single thread performance of Core is like 10 times better. Run a pi on both core and ARM to see the difference

26. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

you are so fanboy of intel it depends, there are tests in geekbench that 1 core exynos is faster than 1 my i5 core, there are not many of those but they are here and one test of browser (fountain of pixels or something) was 2vs3fps on note2

27. p0rkguy

Posts: 685; Member since: Nov 23, 2010

So you ran two different benchmarks dedicated for two different devices and can easily say they're in the same... Interesting.

29. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

what 2 different benchmarks? what are you talking about? ok ok i get it. intel is faster because takes more power. happy? intel is super fast. happy fanboy now?

47. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

There, that's what I'm saying. On the same clock speed A15 is actually close to core i5. BUT it is MUCH more efficient. A15 is up to twice times more efficient than Intel Atom, yet absolutely blowing it in performance ! Now translate that into the comparison with ivy bridge and you will see what Apple is doing here.. say their MacBook on ARM swift will have six cores running at 2.5ghz. The result? a) it is at least as powerful as quad core i5, yet still significantly more power efficient b) it is significantly more powerful than a dual core i5, yet not more power hungry Apple wins in any case

46. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Pi benchmark? Have you seen the Pi score of snapdragon Krait pro? It's like 10x better than the ARM A9 chips. So by that logic Krait is ten times better than arm A9 which we all know is not true. You should do your homework better.

31. aaronkatrini

Posts: 242; Member since: Jun 06, 2012

thumbs up for you! but still even the best ARM cannot compete in processing power with at least an i5 processor, lets not talk about Xeon line... Any way if arm goes this way im pretty sure in a couple of years it would surpass intel , and thats why Apple is going for that. You have to admit , Apple is thinking smart now :/

41. Nadr1212

Posts: 741; Member since: Sep 22, 2012

Uh oh 4 intel

44. jove39

Posts: 2147; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

only untill ARM is less powerful...once they reach power point of x86...or x64...ARM chips will generate same kind of heat...don't believe Nexus 4 performance preview on Anandtech...4core krait chip get throttled due to thermal issues...and Nexus 4 scored less than onex(s4) in few benchmarks!!! GO read it now -

49. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

because s4 pro was for tablets even almost the same cpu on note2 is better than on sgs3 rev 2 and faster ram 30%, internal bus 10% and voltages can be lower even 100mv but on the other hand i don't really believe in snapdragons, in that article is also about a15 we will see what sgs4 can do with samsung optimizations, or we wait for texas instruments version, it is only the begining, 5 months and we will see what can it do BTW i love anandtech and i read it often

43. thelegend6657 unregistered

I don't get it . They went from their old chips to intel and now back to their own chip again ? So this new chip can't ran windows ? s**t , can't dual boot anymore !

48. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

you can instal windows rt (for arm)

50. thelegend6657 unregistered

No , RT is closed source you cant buy them in stores like Windows 8 . similar to android it must come with your device . Seriously ? RT is s**t

51. denied911

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2012

rt is s**t but i hoped they will hack it

16. MeoCao unregistered

Don't like Apple but I will take my hat off to them if they can do it. Currently ARM chips are RISC based and not suitable for PCs and what Apple can do is essentially tweaking ARM design for their own mobiles which is easy task that many companies also can do. But designing chips for PCs requires much more and even ARM still can't so it's obviously is very long shot.

17. PhenomFaz

Posts: 1236; Member since: Sep 26, 2012

Apple is full of crap...period! Just because Apple dedicates a lot of resources in its homebrew processors doesn't mean it has to shove them down the poor Apple fan's throats and I bet they'' still charge like $2500 for this crap as well....I see another Apple-Map like apology in Apple's future (and probably someone losing their job!) ARM based chips are nowhere near Intel's architecture and especially for full-blown PCs! It'll be quite some years before they can actually make it desktop-worth and by that time Intel'll have already something much more powerful and power-efficient! As it as Apple has made enemies out of the entire mobile/tech industry and the only company that supported Apple wholly and was willing to wrok hand-in-hand with Apple was Intel and now Apple goes and stabs them in the back too!

18. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010

Yea, I give it to Apple for trying to have more stuff in house. Apple Maps, this, etc. In the long run it should save them money. I agree.....for mobile devices ARM is nice. Desktops and laptops, might be a different animal.

35. metalpoet unregistered

what a great way for apple to go BACKWARDS with technology....put their own crap inside more of their own icrap!

38. Kronic

Posts: 321; Member since: Sep 11, 2012

Oh yeah baby! Come on! Introduce a power house CPU!

2. Non_Sequitur

Posts: 1111; Member since: Mar 16, 2012

Nice. I hope Intel, AMD, Snapdragon, TI, and Samsung amp up their processors.

3. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

same old selfish apple never minding what loss other companies will suffer as long as they are gaining......

8. SleepingOz unregistered

This is business dude.. And based on their massive profits, they're doing it right.

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