Apple puts the kibosh on an app that tells you if your iPhone has been compromised

Apple puts the kibosh on an app that tells you if your iPhone has been compromised
Apple has removed from the App Store, an app that has the ability to alert iPhone users that their phone has been hacked. Removed on Saturday, System and Security Info was developed to give users information about the iOS system on their phone, including the CPU and memory. More importantly, the app can detect if an iPhone is infected by malware or if it has been jailbroken.

Apple says that at present, there is no way to analyze iOS diagnostics. As a result, the company says that the app provides "potentially inaccurate and misleading diagnostic functionality for iOS devices." Apple also noted that the app shows a list of processes running on an iPhone, which the tech firm considers to be a privacy violation.

The app's developer, Stefan Esser, is a security researcher out of Germany and he disseminated several tweets blaming Apple for removing the app. Esser said that Apple put the app through three reviews due to bug fixes. It wasn't until the fourth review when Apple removed System and Security Info. Esser feels that Apple waited for media attention to die down before removing the app. He also pointed out that other titles that offer iOS system diagnostics haven't been pulled from the App Store. He would like to have his app reinstated, or have its capabilities added to iOS.

Esser believes that the app's ability to show if an iPhone has been jailbroken is the main reason for its removal, since it shows that there are security holes in iOS. In one tweet he wrote, "The only reason our app is pulled and not the others that show system info/jailbreak status is because we put a dent in 'unbreakable iOS."

source: @i0n1c via CNET

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26 Comments

1. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

Typical crappIe security via obscurity...

2. ctdog4748

Posts: 797; Member since: Mar 05, 2016

How do you know? What are your qualifications/credentials?

3. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

History paints the same picture. Including: - "Macs don't get viruses", yet that has been proven to be BS multiple times: http://www.dereferer.org/?http%3A%2F%2Fbit%2Ely%2F1sllHw4 Heck, their Macs got a whole new level of malware that's not even removable with a fresh system restore; the Thunderstrike malware: http://www.dereferer.org/?http%3A%2F%2Fzd%2Enet%2F1IZVyVJ It's no surprise that it's the most vulnerable software on the planet (even worse than flash that they despise): http://www.dereferer.org/?http%3A%2F%2Fbit%2Ely%2F1SswEXw Yet they still have the audacity to sweep vulnerability reports under the rug even when professionally reported to them months ago: http://www.engadget.com/2016/01/15/apples-gatekeeper-vulnerability-still-needs-to-be-fixed/ - "iOS is the world's most advanced mobile OS", yet it got bricked by a simple date change: http://www.dereferer.org/?http%3A%2F%2Fbit%2Ely%2F1RGQduS and still can't even do multiple things dumb phones were capable of. Including system wide automation, quick-switch profiles for multiple hardware/software components, Bluetooth file/media sharing, central file management, being used as a flash drive, etc. Still gotta jailbreak for that and many other smart features.

12. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I just bought an iPad pro, but I'm returning it today or tomorrow. Depends on traffic after work. I am so disappointed in it. I just can't see what was done that added $100 in cost. It unlocks slower tan the iPhone 6S Plus which I tested yesterday when I went to see mom and I took my iPad. It has 4 speakers, but they don't sound good to me. They sound muffled. The stereo sound is screw due to speaker placement. I made a track on it with FCP and I wanted to hear how the device would sound in lanscape.It doesn't even sound liek stereo sound because the speakers are set in portrait mode for stereo sound, but they dont change in landscape. So the left soun is at the top and the right s on the bottom when you're in landscape. That's just stupid and poorly thought out. But for Apple to stop and app that tells you if your device is compromised is stupid. Amongst the other stupid things, like no default apps, the app installer doesn't tell you what it accesses, so you get do "this app could inquire charges" because it uses data and you may not know it. I am really pissed that the present iPad is worse than the Air 2 which was fairly nice IMO. Not gonna pay for crap that sucks. Apple needs a new device designer. Even I would have told them for free. You need to connect the speakers to the gyroscope, so that when it si in landscape, the gyroscope will reorient the speakers so that the stereo sounds are in the right place. Then the other issue is. What good are the speakers being at the top and bottom. When you watch a move, they don't fire towards you which is dumb. I wish someone outside of Microsoft, would give use a useful tablet that doesn't skimp on specs, that has hardware that makes sense, and not just raising the costs and given nothing. Apple...you're through!

19. ctdog4748

Posts: 797; Member since: Mar 05, 2016

So you can copy and paste links to articles, bully for you. I can do the same thing and post medical research documents, but that'd hardly mean I'm a graduate of an accredited M.D.,Ph.D. program. You may impress your fellow dolts, but I'm done with you. Be gone fool!

22. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

"So you can copy and paste links to articles, bully for you. I can do the same thing and post medical research documents, but that'd hardly mean I'm a graduate of an accredited M.D.,Ph.D. program." Uhm, WTF? You're just pretending to be that asinine, right? 'Cause what you're implying right now is just out right asinine. " You may impress your fellow dolts, but I'm done with you. Be gone fool!" Oh, so you aren't kidding, you actually are that asinine. FYI you don't have to have any qualifications to point out credible sources to back your claims, but I guess apple still hasn't thought you to think for yourself. iSheeps never fail to impress with their iGnorance...

27. tbacba

Posts: 134; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

He responded to your challenge with referenced articles. Why isn't that enough?

4. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Yeah... because we want everyone to announce their protecting us! The government should give each American citizens access to covert military information immediately!!/s The app was a bogus security spam, similar to what you see when you visit..... unsavory websites (wink wink). If you let an app determine the security level of your device, then you are a genuine fool.

5. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Sure it was.

6. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

I was being serious. There are several of these apps on Android as well. Each of which details a certain type of malware is present on your device, and then redirects you to a link supposably to help rid your phone of said software. Naturally, it is nothing more than a placebo with ads and give aways galore, but you probably already knew that I assume.

7. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

If that were the case, how would it have passed initial testing by Apple, and why would they disallow it for other reasons? Why not just say it's bogus?

9. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Some apps slip through the cracks on both platforms. Remember that their is malware in both App Stores to this day, even though both Apple and Google have made tremendous strides in locating and terminating it. The testing process has its flaws just like any other method of examination I'm afraid.

16. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Then why not state that was the reason for disallowing it? That's a much more valid reason than they gave, and wouldn't be a questionable reason.

21. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

In the post I made earlier, I referenced the US government for a reason. Why don't they explain their actions to you or I? Simple, we have no feasible need for said information. The situation has been handled, and our knowledge is of no consequence to Apple, so they don't release the info to sources. I can't recall a single case where they actually have released a report about apps they removed can you?

24. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

You might have something there. Do you know why the government lies? Because they don't want the public to know the inconvenient truth. When the truth bolsters then or their cause, the truth is released. Apple gave a reason. It's not the one you want it to be, and they have no reason to give a false one.

11. AlikMalix unregistered

Edit: this is in response to post #6 (not #7), sorry. Because this is one of many apps that are bogus that Apple has removed or not approved due to its content. The statements you see above are from app developer himself - DONT YOU THINK his views are a bit biased? Maybe his app is not as legit as it may seem, meaning, maybe there are concerns about legitimacy of the reports. Especially the fact that there are other apps just like this and they have not been pulled from the App Store!!!! I'm not saying Apple maybe saving face regarding the holes in iOS (everyone here knows that) but is there a possibility that this app isn't legit as it stands?

18. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

There is a possibility, but it would be much more likely this was a bogus application of Apple has stated that was the reason they it was rejected. Right now, we have no idea where the truth lies.

8. xondk

Posts: 1904; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

There are a ton of spam apps, everywhere sure, but there are also a ton of actually fully legit apps...just say, spam apps usually pop into existence when someone spots an app rising in popularity, they make a quick spam clone to get people to get that instead by calling it something very similar, and boom there you go, and there are a ton of them on both ios and android.

13. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Really? So what exactly are anti-virus programs for? Don't they tell you the security level of your computer? I mean. If you've downloaded malware or a virus and it doesn't have popups that tell you, how are you to know how secure your device is? The fact you think an app can't be designed to tell you the security level of your computer, makes you a fool.

14. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

An Anti-Virus PROGRAM... PROGRAM!!! A mobile app is very different than what you speak of, and I'm sure you know that.

17. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

They're different in how they're coded, but they're just different names for the same thing. App is short for application, which is another term for program.

20. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

I understand that, I'm simply acknowledging that while they are similar in certain areas, apps are slimmed down programs meant for certain purposes. Proper security usually isn't one of those purposes in many cases. Of course there are exceptions from reliable sources, but this doesn't appear to be one of those cases.

25. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

What makes it appear unreliable?

26. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

The obscure nature of its removal of course. Simply put, there are two ways you could look at this. From your perspective, Apple is covering it's tracks regarding an exploit of some sort. I feel that is highly unlikely, simply because the exploit if lethal in nature, would have been public knowledge by now. The other way is Apple covering it's tracks on an app that uses people's lack of knowledge when it comes to malware to make a profit. The latter is far more likely than the former.

10. GoTstan

Posts: 386; Member since: Jul 25, 2015

Sounds extremely shady

15. Pigaro

Posts: 88; Member since: May 15, 2016

This is a good news. Clap for Apple and Mango

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