Apple iPhone 4S without a camera being offered in Singapore

Apple iPhone 4S without a camera being offered in Singapore
The military in Singapore have a rule against its personnel owning smartphones with a camera. In fact, servicemen with smartphones must show a certificate that their device has been modified by one of the local carriers to prevent photographs from being taken. But to make things easier, Singapore's M1 has started offering a cameraless version of the Apple iPhone 4S.

Just to be sure, this is not an officially sanctioned Apple modification and the carrier is simply opening up the device and stripping out the camera. For that, the price is raised to a premium level and the warranty is voided. While some manufacturers offer versions of their phones without a camera (BlackBerry, especially), until Apple offers a version of its devices without a shooter, this is the only way that Singapore military members get to enjoy the iPhone 4S. And for the carriers, it is enough of a lucrative market to make it worth their while.

source: MacRumors

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iPhone 4s
  • Display 3.5" 640 x 960 pixels
  • Camera 8 MP / 0.3 MP VGA front
  • Processor Apple A5, Dual-core, 800 MHz
  • Storage 64GB



1. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

wow that's dumb, i'd rather not have one if I'm going to have a gaping hole in the back where my camera should be

3. belovedson

Posts: 1061; Member since: Nov 30, 2010

your pretty insensitive dude. have some respect for the soldiers

7. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

@Belovedson You're an idiot, there was not any disrespect stated towards soldiers. I'm saying that it would be smarter to get a phone that comes without a camera than getting an iPhone and getting the camera taken out then be left with an opening for the camera that is no longer there.

10. belovedson

Posts: 1061; Member since: Nov 30, 2010

it is disrespectful.. again you calling me an idiot is disrespectful. if that's what you were trying to say why not say just that you ass. if someone wants an iphone and is willing to pay a premium let them. if you think for a second you would realize there aren't many premium phones that come without a camera. but then again the way you respond im sure you never thought about it

11. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

I wasn't being an ass, I was explaining my reasoning to you. Imagine you're a soldier, which would you rather have: A Blackberry without camera or an iPhone with a hole for a non-existent camera. P.S. I didn't call you an idiot to be disrespectful, I called you one because it was very fitting.

19. MrNobodyWTB

Posts: 27; Member since: Jan 03, 2012

While I agree with you otherwise, it is very possible that a person in the Singapore military would rather use an iPhone rather than a Blackberry. I'm sure there would still be a clear cover over said hole. Also because of particular policies that bar cameras, I would believe the idea of not wanting to own a specific smartphone designed with having a camera in mind, fairly mute.

17. WakaFlakaD

Posts: 576; Member since: Apr 30, 2011

belovedson probably gave a thumb up on his own comment just like people on Facebook liking their own status.

21. XiphiasGladius

Posts: 813; Member since: Aug 21, 2011

And is it wrong to like your own status on facebook?

5. LoneShaolin

Posts: 307; Member since: Jan 14, 2012

It's actually very brilliant. Governing bodies require that cell phones have no camera to protect sensitive information. RIM has gotten a very large chunk of business/money by following that model and making models with NO CAMERA. Put yourself in their shoes. Think it was dumb for them to take the camera out? Before you answer, think about the sums of money they have made.

9. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

@LoneShaolin I am completely aware that it's only for the military. The point I was making was why go through the hassle of removing the camera and being left with a gaping hole when you could buy a phone that was manufactured without a camera.

12. LoneShaolin

Posts: 307; Member since: Jan 14, 2012

-_- Because Apple is retarded and won't do it.

13. quakan

Posts: 1419; Member since: Mar 02, 2011

If it does happen, it won't be until the next iPhone is announced when they can release all versions of it at the same time.

18. spencerlewis8

Posts: 2; Member since: Jan 15, 2012

Who says apple can't just make a different back glass back piece with out the camera hole...

2. tacohunter

Posts: 408; Member since: Nov 06, 2011

for their military it's not allowed to have a camera.

4. hello

Posts: 25; Member since: Jan 21, 2011

i kind of want to see a picture

6. biophone

Posts: 1994; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

I like what you did there

8. LoneShaolin

Posts: 307; Member since: Jan 14, 2012


14. sinple

Posts: 132; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

AFor those who think that this is dumb, plz think again. At the moment, the best non camera phone is most prob the 9900 or 9790 whcih does nt have much apps or games on it. Military service is a whole 2 years. I just did my national services 2 years back and the only phone available to me was a symbian e51 and g700 biz edition and walkmanphone w900. It was after a while then there is a htc snap and touch 2 which runs on windows 6.5. At the moment, excluding the iPhone, this is a rather lousy a lousy catalog of phones. Plus, not all place allowed the use of itouch and you cant bring devices with screen larger than 4.3 inch.(PSP's screen) so if anyone wld be legally mod their iPhone, then I am sure that this would be a lucrative biz. Wld u rather a bb or a iPhone?( excluding those outdated symbian and windows phone)

15. eaxvac

Posts: 328; Member since: Jan 15, 2012

I don't understand Singlish sir.

22. Tatperson

Posts: 58; Member since: Oct 21, 2011

Post 14 isn't singlish. Its just badly spelled words. Wanna know what's Singlish? Look at post 20.

20. nanozander

Posts: 97; Member since: Oct 19, 2011

lol do it the old school way. Get a cheap nokia phone for show at guard house then smuggle in ur iphone loh~ If not can bring PSP in oso =P

26. LoneShaolin

Posts: 307; Member since: Jan 14, 2012


27. eaxvac

Posts: 328; Member since: Jan 15, 2012

Yes. Singlish :)

16. frydaexiii

Posts: 1476; Member since: Dec 01, 2011

To all who think this is not a dumb idea, it is dumb... They're charging a premium price for a stripped down phone (than again, iPhones already cost a premium price) and a void warranty. And after NS, than what? You continue using that phone without a camera? All these carriers had to do is take a regular iPhone and mod it with a back cover without the camera hole and perhaps a software mod that removes the camera app for extra assurance and the government should approve it, and after NS all they have to do is undo the camera app mod and reinstall the original back panel. People who buy this either have too much money, or are seriously plain stupid. And to the other guy who said people are being disrespectful (yes, I don't give a crap enough to scroll up to see your name), you must be one of those who go to Android reviews the day Steve Jobs passed away and said stuff like "RIP Steve Jobs, you should have some respect." WHAT DOES SAYING REMOVING THE CAMERA ON AN IPHONE HAVE TO DO WITH DISRESPECTING? You're just posting that for the sake of posting...

24. tigermcm

Posts: 861; Member since: Sep 02, 2009

thats the point quaken was trying to make. how is it NOT dumb to pay more for a phone that no longer has warranty? Yet anyone who calls apple fanboys idiots get bashed???

23. rycx365

Posts: 37; Member since: Mar 18, 2011

Don't forget to remove the front facing cam :P

25. iKingTrust

Posts: 716; Member since: Jul 27, 2011

I go to a lot of federal buildings that dont allow camera phones and I wish I had a 4S with out a camera.

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