Apple accused of stealing fingerprint technology, to be sued by a "patent troll"

Apple accused of stealing fingerprint technology, to be sued by a
Patent infringements are nothing unusual these days. Companies sue one another left and right claiming to be the original creators of a certain technology. On top of this, Apple often happens to be sued by so-called patent troll companies, and it seems like the Cupertino company is the suspect once again. Korean company Firstface claims to own the patent of a fingerprint scanner, built in the home button of the smartphone, a.k.a. Apple's Touch ID.

Accusations of the supposed technology plagiarism came directly from Firstface co-CEO Jung Jae-lark. He said his company had filed the patents for a mobile fingerprint authentication system, where the scanner is placed in the home button of the device, in multiple countries, including Japan, Korea, and the US, back in 2011. Those claims, however, may be nothing more but an attempt to make some easy cash out of Apple.

Apple has just come out of another lawsuit by a patent troll. The company must pay $500 million to VirnetX Holding Corp. over infringing patents related to FaceTime, VPN on Demand and iMessage.

source: 9to5mac



1. afrohoxha

Posts: 264; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

"Apple seeks to add Google Now and Samsung Galaxy S4 to 2014 patent trial" should be "Patent troll seeks to add Google Now and Samsung Galaxy S4 to 2014 patent trial" and many similar ones.

2. Tipus

Posts: 894; Member since: Sep 30, 2016

Pot calls kettle :)))

3. Landon

Posts: 1245; Member since: May 07, 2015

Silicon Valley had an episode on patent trolls. It was quite hilarious!

4. BlackhawkFlys

Posts: 926; Member since: May 07, 2014

Wow, look at how many times they have used the word patent troll in their article...

17. Venom

Posts: 3732; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Lol probably from me. I've been on a vendetta against patent trolls recently.

5. SmartPhoneMobiles

Posts: 188; Member since: Oct 16, 2016

I have feeling iphone is just mosaic of all japanese and korean and china technologies and putted together And yet americans yelling like stupid .. iphonee coppyy on asian products ..

6. southernzombie

Posts: 357; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

Is it really trolling if the company has a legitimate patent claim tho?

9. cmdacos

Posts: 4267; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Nope. Blame the system not the companies enforcing the patents. Same with the recently announced litigation against Samsung with PACid in the US. Need to play the game until the system is changed. No different than the offshore tax debate.

7. emvxl

Posts: 141; Member since: Sep 29, 2009

They should make a movie about patent trolls. "Patent Troll Goes To Silicon Valley" or "My Silly Fairy Patent Troll" or "An Everlasting Patent Troll" or ...

8. wando77

Posts: 1168; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

Of course suing other companies for using a rectangle with rounded corners is ok.

10. NarutoKage14

Posts: 1327; Member since: Aug 31, 2016

PhoneArena, why must almost every company that sues Apple be called a patent troll? Why don't you call Apple a patent troll when they sue other companies for the dumbest little things. Remember when Apple sued a grocery store that sold apples of all things? That's about as trollish as it gets.

11. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

They even sued a cafe for having an Apple in their logo that doesn't even resemble the Apple logo.

13. 47AlphaTango

Posts: 734; Member since: Sep 27, 2015

@NarutoKage14 First of all. Why is he only filling a lawsuit against apple? What about the others like android which has a lot of fingerprint scanner smartphones? Why didn't he included them? Second, Since 2013. Apple has already made like a dozen or more ios device that has fingerprint scanner in it. How come he didn't file a lawsuit back in 2013? Why did he filed a lawsuit so late? Third,

16. airoid

Posts: 130; Member since: Dec 13, 2016

Every fps has different implements or patents that being used. That why Apple can't sue Samsung's fps bc they are different. Got it?

23. tedkord

Posts: 17415; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Maybe the others licensed it. Or maybe they use a different tech. As for the timing, lawsuits take time. Apple sued Samsung for phones that were years old. The nature of the system is it takes time.

27. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

First, this relates only to finger print scanner embedded in the home button. Samsung used to do that, as did Motorola, but most others either have a fps on the back, as Samsung now does, or have them in other areas, like Sony's fps in the power/lock button. Second, who said they waited until now? They could've started the process long before now, or perhaps they were getting their ducks in a row before filing, or maybe they had to secure capital to wage a legal battle. But nowhere in the article did it say that they just started working on this now, only that they filled the suit now. Makes sense to get everything in order if you're going to take on a company like Apple in the courtroom. Third, ???

12. 47AlphaTango

Posts: 734; Member since: Sep 27, 2015

How come he is only filling a lawsuit against apple when majority of android device has fingerprint scanner?

24. tedkord

Posts: 17415; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Maybe the others all licensed his patent. Or maybe they operate in a different way.

14. DBoss

Posts: 102; Member since: Feb 18, 2017

But apple isn't the only one who had implemented finger print sensor on home button. Even samsung and many other companies have done that too...! So the patent actually worth billions and the bitch author says its a patent troll...! Wtf...!

25. tedkord

Posts: 17415; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

A patent troll is defined as a person or business that only owns patents for the purpose of suing, and doesn't produce any products based on them.

28. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

I don't know about others, but doesn't Samsung's implementation require the user to swipe their finger across the home button to read it? Whereas in Apple's implementation you press and hold it their to read the fingerprint. Unless this company's patent covers both implementations, those would he 2 separate technologies and therefore Samsung's wouldn't be subject to the claims.

15. DRS1977

Posts: 679; Member since: May 27, 2015

Gotta love how any company that sues idiotic Apple is a patent troll, yet Apple is the biggest troll of them all.

19. lyndon420

Posts: 6834; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Microsoft is pretty bad as well.

18. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1354; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Unfortunate this is a "can of Worms" that Steve Jobs open when he adopted a thermonuclear strategy ( not really thinking out how it might affect Apple itself which employs a lot of copying and in his own words " stealing") to battle Android and Google. prior to this the mobile world was not such an active hot bed for patent wars. So, now in a sense the "roosters have come back home to crow" at Apple. Its sad as this really just put a damper on innovation. I agree with those here who have said it the patent laws need to change the USPO needs to go back to not just being presented an Idea on a piece of tissue but an actual manufactured working model. And for God sake's use logic Name, numbers, shapes, colors sizes etc.. cant be patent .

20. lyndon420

Posts: 6834; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

New patents should have an expiration working prototype after 5 years and the patent is nulled. Or...make it expensive to renew patents if the only goal is to hang on to them for litigation purposes.

21. Furbal unregistered

Yeah, if there is no somewhat workingproduct the patent should be null and void. Anyone can theorize how something might work.

26. sissy246

Posts: 7124; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

Agree It doesn't matter who it is, once it's 5 or 6 years old it free game.

22. vandroid

Posts: 405; Member since: Sep 04, 2012

Hopefully there's a patent case about using the charging port as a headphone jack LOL

29. Sammy_DEVIL737

Posts: 1529; Member since: Nov 28, 2016


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