Apple accuses Samsung of "spoilation of evidence" in patent case

Apple accuses Samsung of
Samsung, like many other companies, apparently has a plan to get rid of emails that take up space on the company's computers. The Korean based firm routinely purges emails from its accounts. But one firm's garbage is another firm's evidence and Apple is accusing Samsung of deleting evidence related to its court battles. Apple filed a motion accusing Samsung of  "spoilation of evidence," saying that its rival (and vendor) destroyed "vast quantities of relevant evidence in blatant disregard of its duty to preserve all such evidence."

Samsung has apparently been behaving badly and last week United States District Court Magistrate Judge Paul S. Grewal punished the company for its failure to turn over source code. Two weeks before that, the same Judge admonished the Korean manufacturer for failing to turn over documents it held that mentioned Apple's products. Wouldn't you like to be a fly on the wall when Apple and Samsung sit down on May 21st and May 22nd for their court-ordered mediation talks? source: AllThingsD, JoyofTech



1. Atrixboyyy

Posts: 607; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

If its not one thing its another that Apple has a problem with.

2. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

Better watch this than read about how Apple sues someone: (100 Hours) :D

3. tedkord

Posts: 17417; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

3...2...1...and Taco automatically believes that Samsung did it, just like he automatically believes anything Apple does is right.

6. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

And you guys are already assuming that it's false/irrelevant. Don't call him out if you're doing the same thing.

7. tedkord

Posts: 17417; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Where did I say Samsung didn't do it? I have no idea. The point is, Taco has no idea either, but he will insist he knows they did it. Just like he insisted he knew Samsung were behind the "Wake up Apple" protest down under. Taco is the Rush Limbaugh of this board. Republicans (Apple) are always right, Democrats(Samsung) are always wrong. No evidence necessary, facts will not get in the way.

9. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

even rush limbaugh is not as bad as taco... not by a long shot

10. parkwaydr

Posts: 572; Member since: Sep 07, 2011

Hahahahahahaha and burn of year is awarded to you sir!!!!

8. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

Ted has a valid point. I assume samsung burned emails. ALL companies burn any evidence they have that they think might incriminate them. Apple is no different. The difference is the extreme one sidedness of certain board members and a total lack of reality or objectivity.

4. sprockkets

Posts: 1612; Member since: Jan 16, 2012

So ****ing what, why the hell you need emails to prove what you have in your hand? Seriously, GFY apple.


Posts: 73; Member since: May 08, 2012

™We say this is to much Apple, lay, back off™

11. parkwaydr

Posts: 572; Member since: Sep 07, 2011

If Apple spent as much time in r+d as they do in the court room, they would have some heavy tech, don't get me wrong I hate Apple, but its a sad truth.

12. theBankRobber

Posts: 682; Member since: Sep 22, 2011

Its so sad how its come down to court rooms because of Apple. Before the iPhone, you heard of a patent hear and there that was infringed. Now its all you see now a days. I hate it when people argue about how everyone is coping Apple when they themselves have copied from others. Apple is the reason we have so much problems with innovation, if they can't have it, they will steal it and say you stole it from them.

13. matrix_neo

Posts: 334; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

Before I read the article I'm making a guess who wrote it, my guess is correct. No need to mention his name, it's his favorite topic, anything bad about Samsung. Remember "wake up" campaign?! Remixfa is correct, all companies burn anything that might held against them. Even if this happened to me, I will dispose any evidence against me, I know it's wrong but it's our instinct to protect ourselves. I hope any mediation will take place between the two just to end these never ending law suit. Writing this kind of article is nothing new, everybody are doing it... just saying.

14. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

It is going to be a stretch for Apple to prove their 'spoilation' charges. Unless they have proof in the form of an e-mail from Sammy senior management that specifically directs e-mails with Apple anywhere in the subject or body or attachment of the e-mail to be destroyed and not to bother with any other e-mail, the dog ain't gonna hunt. Purging all e-mails older than nn months is not proof of spoilage. I suspect Apple is having a case of sour grapes over the discovery master slapping Sammy's wrist over not disclosing newer editions of source code. If Sammy can make their case that they weren't infringing Apple's patents using the earlier edition of source code that was disclosed, they have met their burden and there was no reason to disclose current source code. Waaaaa! Waaaaa! Waaaaa!!!!

15. iluvtrolling

Posts: 15; Member since: May 11, 2012

Samsung needs to learn, it is an evil empire that cannot move forward without copying. I wonder where they spend their billions of R&D money on 2011, probably a huge lie.


Posts: 535; Member since: Mar 28, 2012

It's you again....

19. parkwaydr

Posts: 572; Member since: Sep 07, 2011

Wow dude seriously, you need to get your head checked this obsession with Samsung can't be good for you, let it go.

22. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

ok, if Samsung is an evil empire....then APPLE would be 100 times worse....

16. u-suck-more

Posts: 529; Member since: Aug 26, 2011

and again we have an idiot who dislikes every post -.-

17. matrix_neo

Posts: 334; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

Maybe iluvtrolling lol mostly comments here are against apple. It's his way of taking revenge lol

20. u-suck-more

Posts: 529; Member since: Aug 26, 2011

true that

21. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Oh, and APPLE never deletes emails that would be incriminating, right?

23. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

I do not blame Samsung for not wanting to turn over source code...although, it is open-source code, right? Apple does anything it can to get ahead...lying, cheating, copying....hey, just ask the late Steve Jobs.

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