Andy Rubin's upcoming handset is benchmarked on Geekbench revealing some specs?

Andy Rubin's upcoming handset is benchmarked on Geekbench revealing some specs?
Just yesterday, we told you that the "Father of Android," Andy Rubin, will be producing a brand new smartphone for a company called Essential Products Inc. This is a small company made up of 40 employees, many of whom previously toiled for Apple, Samsung and Google. The device certainly sounds intriguing as it is said to include a large edge-to-edge display and flagship-type specs. The idea is to take on the Apple iPhone, Samsung's Galaxy S line and Google's Pixel handsets. While one prototype reportedly carries a 5.5-inch display, Essentials is also rumored to be testing a feature similar to Apple's 3D Touch.

Rubin's new device might have been benchmarked on Geekbench last month. A model called the Essential FIH-PM1 was submitted for testing, and the results showed that the phone has Android 7.0 pre-installed. That might surprise some who were expecting Rubin to debut a brand new platform. Carrying an octa-core CPU (running at 1.9GHz for the test), the handset is driven by the Snapdragon 835 chipset. The unit appeared for the benchmark testing with 4GB of RAM inside.

There is talk that a proprietary port will allow some modular capabilities. There is talk about contract manufacturer Foxconn assembling the device (hence the 'FIH' in the model name for Foxconn International Holdings), which could be released in the middle of this year. Oh, we almost forgot to mention that the single-core score was 1844 with a 5426 multi-core score.

Lightning struck once for Rubin as his Android operating system is now the leading mobile OS in the world. Will he pull off another mega-success with this new phone? It should be interesting to find out.

source: Geekbench via (translated)

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1. fyah_king unregistered

Score is kinda low. Qualcomm cant get at least 2k on single core in gb4? I know gb4 scores better with iOS.

18. combatmedic870

Posts: 986; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

It's only clocked at 1.8ghz. Not 2.4 that it would be clocked at.

22. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

It's clocked at 1.9 GHz, which is exactly what the little cores of 835 will be clocked at. This is what the real 835 will be clocked at. And yes, the score is low because Qualcomm sucks at making CPUs for more than 2 years now. The new kyro is basically rebranded A73 with a few tweaks.

24. sgodsell

Posts: 7539; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

The SD 835 is a 10 nm processor, which has 4 higher clocked cores, and 4 lower clocked cores. The 4 lower clocked cores run at 1.9 GHz, and the 4 higher clocked Kryo 280 cores are clocked 2.45 GHz. This is one of the reasons why Geekbench is a pile of crap, and should never be trusted. It never shows the real picture. Also it's GPU should be excellent with around 800 gigaflops, even the SD 820/821 have excellent and fast GPUs. Not to mention the 835 is one of the first processors that can use use the new LPDDR4X ram, which should be the most power efficient ram on the market, which only uses 0.6 volts. The regular LPDDR3 4 or 3 ram is 1.1 volts.

25. sgodsell

Posts: 7539; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

I should have added that Andy Rubin is no dummy. Most like it will utilize Androids ecosystem in some manner. It might use Google's new Andromeda OS, which would mean that it most definitely will have Androids ecosystem, but can also use chromes ecosystem as well.

28. mikehunta727 unregistered

Highly highly doubt itll be the first Andromeda smartphone. Itll use 7.1.1 most likely

27. mikehunta727 unregistered

Just because it reports the slower cores GHZ over the main cores doesn't mean anything. GB4 is actually one of the best benchmarks currently for CPU testing now, they updated their algorithims not to long ago for modern SoC archs and common daily workloads, it tests everything Geekbench is actually a great benchmark for measuring CPU performance and is alot better then things like AntuTu, etc Also 835 using LPDDR4X doesn't magically bring geekbench scores up a ton, it is just slightly faster RAM over LPDDR4 and uses less voltage(20-30% more power efficient over LPDDR4) Snapdragon 835 CPU isn't bandwidth starved, only the GPU is, in which LPDDR4 is a fairly big reason of the Adreno 540 GPU Improvememts over the 530, due to more bandwidth from new RAM and also new GPU arch improvements. The faster RAM will benefit the new GPU much more

32. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

Geekbench is better than antutu, but it's a pile of garbage compared to benchmarks like pcmark. Most of the tests are so small they are always in cache, which is a really unrealistic scenario. Also most of these tests are done on the apple A series processor on fixed function, making their score unrealistically high. For example, the A10 beats the CORE M on the MacBook 12" in geekbench. But give them both some rendering or hashing and the core M will be nearly twice as fast.

33. sgodsell

Posts: 7539; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Geekbench is actually a terrible benchmark. No one should trust it. I would have better results by throwing darts at random numbers if they were pinned on a board.

30. Tyrion_Lannister unregistered

Doesn't mean s**t to me. It will still have crap performance compared to even 2 year old A9 and it will still drain battery like crazy. Also, I know everything you stated and a lot more about 835. So keep that to yourself. I never have any faith in Qualcomm after 2014. All eyes on Samsung and their mongoose v2. Oh, not to mention the GPU will easily lose to the one in the new exynos(G71 mp18) based on gfxbench score of 835. The GPU on 820 is pretty good I'd say. But the one on 835 seems disappointing. Also, mobile games are not that demanding anyway. My 3 year old phones play all games fine. CPU is a lot more important.

31. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

You did it. You managed to say a lot, and nothing, at the same exact time. Congratulations!

2. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

I am really disappointed it runs on Android, I wish someone would finally introduce new capable OS because now it's pretty boring

5. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3166; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

It could just be a prototype mule. Android is a forked version of Linux anyway.

26. sgodsell

Posts: 7539; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Wiencon I don't think has ever used Android in his life, especially since Android can easily change its look and feel. To say that Android is boring. Well then I guess iOS is now dead. With Android you can easily add an iOS launcher, or a Windows Phone launcher. Even Microsoft has made its own launcher called Arrow. You can have icons, list's, tiles, to your apps. Basically make it look and feel how ever you like. But to say that Android is boring, just proves Wiencon doesn't know his head from his @$$.

20. tyger11

Posts: 297; Member since: Oct 29, 2012

Any new OS will face an overwhelming lack of apps, which would kill it in the marketplace.

23. rubyonrails3

Posts: 375; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

You seems like you want them to fail. Pretty badly. New OS no echo system no apps and failed on arrival. Microsoft sort of failed at it what you expect from new players.

3. dmitrilp_

Posts: 330; Member since: Sep 12, 2016

If it's made right, it could come to overthrow the top players.

4. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

I highly doubt that...... highly.

16. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Not really that hard seeing as how the S7 is getting old, the pixel has a polarizing design, and Apple just released their worst iPhone yet.

19. kiko007

Posts: 7520; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

You know what I'm talking about. There are likely less than a few thousand of these they can produce with their current funding. Even the much moulin Pixel sales outpace that in mere hours, the S7 does that in minutes, and the iPhone in seconds. Let's be real here, the "big players" make up over 70% of the smartphone sales this past quarter for a reason.....people don't give a crap about no names when buying consumer electronics anymore.

12. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

Every phone if is made right, it could come to overthrow the top players. Where is your point?

15. mikehunta727 unregistered

Most phones are "made right" depending on one's needs, but you just don't throw away years of brand recognition and brand loyalty for the big boys, which is very hard to overcome and overthrow

17. dmitrilp_

Posts: 330; Member since: Sep 12, 2016

Jeez take a chill pill Jill, that's the point, "if made right" which just a few players are doing it right, now.

21. Zylam

Posts: 1822; Member since: Oct 20, 2010

Will be interesting to see if it runs stock Android. The father of Android releasing a skinned version of Android would be atrocious.

29. mikehunta727 unregistered

Would be hilariously ironic

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