Android menu button now on by default on all device with KitKat
posted by Michael H. / Dec 09, 2013, 8:26 PM
Since then, the action overflow button has been a spot of inconsistency with Android apps, because it would show on devices with soft navigation buttons, and not show when there was a hardware menu button on the device. At least that was the aim, but depending on the app coding, there it didn't always work that way. But, with Android 4.4 KitKat, it seems that Google has changed that behavior so the action overflow button will always be on, even if there is a hardware menu button available.
Google engineer Adam Powell even went so far as to comment on the change in Git, saying:
That is pretty blatant. The idea seems to be to nudge hardware manufacturers (read: Samsung) to leave behind the physical menu button, which will be redundant. Of course, Samsung really is one of the few Android hardware makers that still uses a physical menu button, along with Xiaomi. HTC still has physical buttons, but only for home and back. Motorola, LG, Sony, and Huawei have all moved to the soft navigation buttons. The change is part of KitKat, so once devices are updated the action overflow button will be here to stay.
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I wish all the manufacturers would just change it already. It's extremely annoying not having soft buttons on all the devices.
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 8:44 PM 11
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About damn time, I hate having to switch between my S4 and padfone/nexus 4/whatever else. The menu button is on the left hand side and back button on the right hand side which is a retarded move for right handed users. Having to master hitting the back button with your palm (ball of thumb?) should not be a requisite to using a smartphone.
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 8:55 PM 0
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I like having a physical menu button. That was the reason why I chose the Note 2 over the newer HTC One. I hope Samsung keeps it, the onscreen buttons are cool but choice is better.
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 8:58 PM 20
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Same here. It's not so big of a deal that makes me choose Samsung over a Nexus or anything else, but I find it very convenient. It's easier to hit if you have a big phone (for many people: 4.5" and up). Another reason I like it is that no matter where I am on the phone, I can just hit it and voila! It's not hard to spot the soft menu button (I've used the Nexus 4), but getting to the menu by pressing the exact same button at the exact same place every time is better.
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 9:06 PM 4
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I like physical home button too. It feels nice to have one, you can unlock screen with it, and if somekind of malfunction appears, it's lifesaver (as a Nexus 7 owner i have witnessed virtual buttons freezing.
posted on Dec 10, 2013, 9:00 AM 0
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They did that mainly because of inconsistency where the menu opens. I have Juhan Lehtimiki or someone post Screenshots of Note 10.1(with physical Menu buttons), where the menu would open sometimes in middle,sometimes top.
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 11:32 PM 0
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There are times when software soft buttons do not show up in some screens and you have to do tricks to get out of certain creens because of flaws in the software. The hardware button on my GS3 saved me in those conditions where my Nexus 5 makes changing back on some screens a chore!
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 9:06 PM 3
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What about capacitive buttons that adapt to the interface (i.e. menu button lights up only when it is needed)?
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 9:07 PM 1
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love this idea. But it will be more difficult for Google to force the company to change it rather than forcing the hardware to use the onscreen
posted on Dec 10, 2013, 5:11 AM 0
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I'm okay with both kind of buttons. They each have their own strengths and weakness, so it all boils down to whether I can adapt to it (I certainly cannot adapt to iOS's interface. Back and menu buttons not obvious enough)
posted on Dec 10, 2013, 5:33 AM 0
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Having the 3 dot menu button up top is a pain in the ass on larger devices. I prefer a real menu button.
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 9:18 PM 4
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Why Goggle forcing it. Recently what Goggle did is more towards bad. It is really a time new OS come up and replace evil soon Android.
posted on Dec 09, 2013, 9:30 PM 4
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The Samsung capacitive buttons are retarded because half the time they don't light up and you just have to know where they are or press blindly. At least with the HTC you can reassign the home button to also be the menu button and their buttons stay lit when the screen is on.
posted on Dec 10, 2013, 5:14 AM 0
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I've used this new solutions on 7 inch tablets, and I hate it. I'm used to universal home button, and I had to search for it every time I wanted to press it. That's just a matter of getting used to though. The more annoying thing is, that it takes screen space. It just makes browseing on 7 inches almost the same as on 5 inches...
posted on Dec 10, 2013, 9:20 AM 0
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Ok, I have wondered this for awhile... In my thinking (Palm Pre days...) I thought they had an ingenious method for navigating around. Slide over the home button! Slide left to go back and slide right to go forward. I mean you have forward and backward then and they don't take up space for actual buttons. Second, since they don't take up actual buttons, they could place two other buttons there... Maybe menu, search, or recents like they used to. It seems this would be very intuitive and more functional. What do you all think?
posted on Dec 11, 2013, 5:22 PM 0
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