Android Q kills its default gesture navigation if you install a launcher like Nova

Android Q kills its default gesture navigation if you install a launcher like Nova
With the ever-increasing sophistication of manufacturer overlays and stock Android itself, third-party launchers that were all the rage when Android was young and silly, are now slowly going the way of the dodo bird. Or the koala lemur, or the giant bees, you catch the drift.

As if to put another nail in that coffin, Google decided to gray out its default gesture navigation option, making it unavailable if you switch to a third-party launcher in Android Q. This has been discovered by the same Charizarlslie dev who posted on Reddit about the new gestures that will command Google's Assistant come Q time for your handset.

When you install Nova or another of the popular launcher options from the Play Store, and switch to it, Android Q will issue a warning that the system's navigation has been "updated." If you peek into the navigation options afterwards, it will be showing you a greyed-out option for switching to gesture navigation, while the 2-button or 3-button options are still there. 

Thus, you are left with the gestures of the third-party launcher which, for all their variety and options, won't be embedded on a system level as Android Q's gestures would be. Thus, you can expect them to be wonkier, hit-or-miss affair that may not be as smooth as the stock option. That has nearly always been the case with "acquired" navigation gestures, though, so we'd assume that Google is just trying to prevent inconsistent experience across the board.



1. bigstrudel

Posts: 606; Member since: Aug 20, 2012

Looks like the open platform is dying.

2. notfair

Posts: 755; Member since: Jan 30, 2017

I swear we need another player in this mobile ecosystem. Google is f**king up their fanbase and apple is not an option for many,,,,

3. wilky

Posts: 37; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Don't like gestures so this is a none issue for me using Nova, i cant wait to go back to the old 3 button layout that Google decided to take out of Stock Pie.

12. TBomb

Posts: 1568; Member since: Dec 28, 2012

Not a fan of gestures either. All too similar to be able to useful. tapping a home button or a recent apps button is a lot easier than a swipe up vs a swipe up and hold. i will be turning off gestures for sure.

4. AlienKiss

Posts: 200; Member since: May 21, 2019

I have never used the default Launcher on any of my android phones and probably I never will in the future. As an android power user, there's nothing I hate more than default settings and restrictions. That's apple's game with it's most restricted os in the world. Bleah! Oh well, looks like I'm forced to root my phone after all, so I can use my favorite launcher : Buzz Launcher. It has everything I need for free (things that cost with Nova or Apex like gestures, setting GIFs as icons etc). Funk Google! (Fuggle)!

5. Mike88

Posts: 435; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

Rocket launcher??

6. monoke

Posts: 1172; Member since: Mar 14, 2015

This is a crap move by Google.

7. Cyberchum

Posts: 1093; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

Someone enlighten me; how would this interfere with Launcher gestures? I have been using Nova for 5 years, now. And I've tried out many launchers, none of which had gesture with edge-activation. This would be a sick move if it makes the final (stable) release. I could stick to fluid, which is currently working hitch-free, for me.

10. pimpin83z

Posts: 591; Member since: Feb 08, 2019

I don't think it will. I think it's just referring to the navigation button gestures

15. hansip87

Posts: 228; Member since: Nov 10, 2015

Nope, built in gesture of a launcher will not be affected. The issue here is that, Google built the app drawer into launcher app but restrict this only as a system app. Third party launcher can't get access to read app listing so Google makes it turn to default 3 button setup.

8. MsPooks

Posts: 170; Member since: Jul 08, 2019

Stock Samsung gestures work very well with other launchers. Why can't Google figure it out?

9. pimpin83z

Posts: 591; Member since: Feb 08, 2019

"...when Android was young and silly..." So you're treating Android like a middle school teenager? SMH. Anyway, unless Samsung decides to follow suit this won't be a problem. Also, the time Samsung phones are even ready for Q this iron might be all but nonexistent.

11. Orion78

Posts: 210; Member since: Mar 27, 2014

Been using nova for years and will continue to do so....f Google.

14. baldilocks

Posts: 1540; Member since: Dec 14, 2008

Gestures are where it’s at — otherwise, why worry about larger screens when you’re just going to waste real estate with ugly buttons.

16. MrMalignance

Posts: 300; Member since: Feb 17, 2013

My current setup has no buttons on the home screen, unless I swipe up. It's pure wallpaper. I use klwp, so I can make it look however I want, without worrying about gestures or buttons. Plus the addition of being able to "animate" transitions or "triggers", directly on the wallpaper of choice, makes gestures feel redundant. To each their own... That's just my unsolicited opinion, based on my experience

17. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1270; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

Fluid NG for me. Its gestures are much better than stock gesture navigations.. Btw this is a sh!t move by Google...

18. bbylizard

Posts: 8; Member since: Apr 10, 2017

I can see how it could break or mess with 3rd party launchers but with most I feel like gestures would work just fine. Don't really care for Nova or other launchers these days though. They don't really add anything I care for including aesthetics, so I wouldn't be affected. However I still think it's a silly move though. It would be smarter to change it to regular navigation like this already does, but let you change it back with an additional warning message.

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