Analyst: Verizon and Apple still "ironing out" details of the pair's iPhone deal

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Analyst: Verizon and Apple still
According to Kaufman Brothers analyst Shaw Wu, Verizon and Apple are still "ironing out" the details of a deal that would bring the iPhone to the carrier. Wu says that it is both financial and technological differences that keep both parties from signing off on the contract. According to the analyst, one major issue on the technology side is whether or not Apple will build a CDMA iPhone for 2011 or an LTE model for 2012 when Big Red's 4G network should reach a larger number of its customers.

For the moment, it would appear that both parties are thinking about using SVDO before switching over to LTE. SVDO is a technology that allows for simultaneous voice and data. Verizon's pipelines currently have different voice and data delivery methods, which could limit the use of certain iPhone apps on Verizon. The carrier is said to working on Voice over Revision A (VoRA) which would merge the delivery of voice and data over Verizon's EV-DO network.

Wu also notes that it would be "premature" to rule out T-Mobile or Sprint as possible recipients of the iPhone. Together, the two carriers serve 82 million customers, many of whom would no doubt love to see Apple's touchscreen device on their current network. Thanks to the strong momentum that Android phones have had in the U.S. over the last 10 months,  Apple needs to let the iPhone become available on other carriers in order to sustain the strong sales growth that the device has had this year, thanks to its first redesign.

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1. tomorrowisnow unregistered

This is getting as ridiculous as Brett Favre's retirement announcements.

5. narley

Posts: 357; Member since: May 14, 2009

best comment ever.... DIDO

15. Scribed3d

Posts: 29; Member since: Aug 08, 2010

Amen brother.

29. Brett Favre unregistered

Go fuck yourself, kid. Plus the iPhone is gay.

2. WhoCaresAboutTheIphone unregistered

Im sick of hearing this crap. However I am glad VZW is not giving into Apples demands.. Personally I could care less if it ever goes to another carrier.

3. YouLostTheGame

Posts: 441; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

You obviously care about the iPhone, otherwise why would you open up this article AND post a comment, about something you claim you don't care about?

6. WhoCaresAboutTheIphone unregistered

Wrong. What i care about is all these phone sites repoting this bs for 3 years now with no solid evidence of it actually happening. That then spills over to the forums and causes all these stupid arguments about android is the iphone is.... They just need to shut up until the have a release date for everyone. Im sure the hype will not die down any if they dont release some bs statement every month.

24. BlackberryUser

Posts: 609; Member since: Jun 26, 2009

I disagree, I read EVERY article on here. Does that mean I care about phones in the UK? I don't care about them, although I may post on an article if it makes sense.

25. dubracer223

Posts: 46; Member since: Mar 16, 2009

+1 to you sir... and the forums obviously do it on purpose just to stir up these arguments just to get us all spun up and creat traffic on their sites.

4. Jyakotu

Posts: 867; Member since: Dec 12, 2008

I say Apple just goes the route of the Nexus One. Why don't they just sell an unlocked Apple iPhone and an AT&T iPhone in their stores.? Then, everybody's happy.! :D

7. BooBoo unregistered

DUH!!!no, they're talking bout a whole different tech in cdma...unlocking is a moot point except for tmobile which u cant use completely moot...ur 2 cents make no

26. BlackberryUser

Posts: 609; Member since: Jun 26, 2009

I think he covered that under "Apple iPhone AND an AT&T iPhone".

8. etownone

Posts: 40; Member since: Jul 25, 2010

After seeing Froyo on Droid 2 .... I have lost all interest in the iPhone. Looking forward to WP7 and compare them to the latest Androids on the market to make my final call on what I'm getting next.

9. Phonechick unregistered

I have a relative that works for Apple, and they just purchased a mass amount of CDMA parts, so it will hit either Sprint or Verizon.

10. jskrenes

Posts: 209; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Or China Telecom.

11. jskrenes

Posts: 209; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

THIS JUST IN: Verizon and Apple are either discussing or not discussing a VZW iPhone and it may or may not happen in 2011 or 2012, and Apple might also go with T Mobile or Sprint.

16. WhoCaresAboutTheIphone unregistered

OMG where did you hear this? You must tell us youre source!

20. jskrenes

Posts: 209; Member since: Dec 11, 2008


21. clevername

Posts: 1436; Member since: Jul 11, 2008

Lmao. Now this comment makes the entire article worth reading. Fuckin hilarious.

12. jtaran unregistered


22. clevername

Posts: 1436; Member since: Jul 11, 2008

And this comment makes me wish I never read the article. Ugh fuckin hate fanboys from either side.

13. enomus unregistered

Apple's iPhone is no loneger the smart phone that everyone wants. VZW spent enough resourse to make sure. Apple should know by now from previous negotiation with VZW that VZW is a control freak. Anything less than equal term is unacceptable to them. VZW gave other the impression that you can play in their team but you can't be the captain. If Apple could give in a little, iPhone should be on VZW network by end of June, 2011. That's why I have a Driod X.

14. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Iphone is not the best smartphone, but everyone wants it...even other carriers - name another phone that sells 4 million units as fast as it did - name another product, besides iPAD that sold over million in the last quarter....not any one DROID model...the power of ANDROID is the amount of make and models behind it , as well as the number of carriers who sell it.

17. ibap

Posts: 870; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

Excuse me? VZW is the control freak? Apple isn't? Get a grip. Apple's mission includes accommodating the least technologically proficient, which gives it enormous market appeal. They maintain that condition by controlling EVERYTHING about their phone, which let's them refuse to support users that mess with it outside of their sandbox. Think how many phone calls they don't get because those with jailbroken phones don't dare admit it to them. VZW has huge market clout, and can choose who they want to play nice with. They will have to come up with an agreement that they can both live with to make this happen. I'm not interested in an iPhone (still love physical keyboards) and anyway I'm tied to another carrier for the next 2 years in order to have coverage where daughter goes to school. jskrenes and WhoCaresAboutTheIphone have it right, though. This provides major fodder for all the boards.

18. WhoCaresAboutTheIphone unregistered

The iphone sells so much because it looks cool. Thats it! I give Apple credit with their OS because nothing out there for now has the same polish and attention to detail. Yea it has a great app store but the vast majority of people with the device dont even know its capabilities or use them. Thats why you see so many stupid chicks with bling all over their cases carrying them.

19. ibap

Posts: 870; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

It's not that it looks cool. It's that almost anyone with no tech bent can load it up with apps they can show off to their friends and make claims about how much it can do. Never mind that they never actually make use of most of them. Reminds me of the bozo I once worked with who wrote on his resume that he 'programmed' a computer when he actually stuck a tape into it and hit start. As for the bling on their cases - at least the chicks mostly just carry them. The guys try to pretend they are really important by appearing to be engrossed in some stupid app. Oh, wait, they're dim enough to actually BE engrossed in that stupid app. Unfortunately, this kind of pseudo-cool-geekiness doesn't stop with the iPhone. And this is one chick who doesn't stick anything on her phone or case that doesn't actually add non-slip or protect it when dropped on concrete.

23. clevername

Posts: 1436; Member since: Jul 11, 2008

great points here. Carriers want it because nothing sells like it. Android has become king platform because it has more than 25 devices to call home on the us alone. And more to come.

27. dubracer223

Posts: 46; Member since: Mar 16, 2009

+1 WhoCaresAboutTheIphone.

28. RobD unregistered

Some things I've found funny: Those that point out that iPhones outsell any singular Android phone. Of course it does. There is only one model of iPhone. If Apple produced more models, it would cannibalize the sales figures. iDevices competing with iDevices. Then Apple couldn't claim iPhone sold X phones in X time. Android takes a different approach, both seem to be working. And those that claim to be a techie and use Apple products. This seems like an oxymoron to me. Apples products are desined for the simplest of people to use. At least by their own marjeting campaigns. If you use an Apple product you are not a techie, you are a consumer and at best I'd call you a gadgeteer.

30. Sven Strickland unregistered

This is the same thing that happened before the original iPhone came out. Apple went to Verizon and wanted to bring the iPhone to VZW but tried to play it like a hostage situation and wanted all of their demands met no questions asked. Verizon refused to be held hostage by Apple and balked at the deal. Apple then took their iPhone to AT&T who now doesn't see any profit from the iPhone until around the 16 month mark.

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