64-bit Android phones are coming for Christmas says ARM executive

64-bit Android phones are coming for Christmas says ARM executive
Executives of chip manufacturing companies are a bit surprised (no pun intended) at the speed in which 64-bit processing is coming to Android phones. Even ARM has been caught unaware by this move. Originally, the company figured that 64-bit technology would first be seen on corporate servers. Instead, after Apple introduced 64 bit mobile processing with the Apple A7 chipset that currently powers the Apple iPhone 5s, Apple iPad Air and the Apple iPad mini with Retina display, the road map has taken a rather sharp detour. Mobile consumer devices are now the recipient of the advancing technology.

Tom Lantzsch, ARM's executive vice president of corporate strategy, expects Santa to be dropping off under the Christmas Tree, the first of the 64 bit Android handsets. While the chips and phones could be ready for 64 bit processing by Christmas, it is unknown when a version of the Android OS will be ready. Lantzsch says that even existing 32 bit code will run better on ARM's 64-bit v8-A architecture. "The architecture itself allows for more efficiency in the code. So, that means better battery life, quicker responsiveness, better features," the executive says. " And once 64-bit software arrives, "There will be early adopters. The applications with the most need will certainly go first. And then the rest will come over time."

source: ARM via CNET



1. Calm_down_mon

Posts: 43; Member since: Dec 12, 2013

why ?

17. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

Thank you to all who said 64Bit would NOT come to Android this year... I have said it forever now, 4GB RAM & 64Bit WILL come to Android this year... I hate to say it, but I told you so... lol

19. grahaman27

Posts: 364; Member since: Apr 05, 2013

4GB of ram will come before 64bit. 32bit is not what's holding higher ram back. The shield 2 will supposedly have 4GB of ram and be 32bit.

21. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

Yes I know that. What I am stating is the Apple heads who were like WE had 64Bit first, yet to take advantage of 64Bit you need 4GB of RAM which the current iPhone CLEARLY doesn't have. Android when they drop 64Bit, it will be done right with 4GB of RAM... +1

33. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

No 64bit does not need 4gb to take advantage of 64bit computing. As posted before mine all it means is what it can access nothing more. And the size of single register (more data). In the end 64bit can do more with less power

35. vikingsfootball09

Posts: 112; Member since: Oct 02, 2013

really? so it doesnt need 4gb+ to make full use of 64bit? is that why stories of apples 64bit mobile devices hang or force close with just 1gb of ram?

38. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

no worse than a droid hanging or closing with 1gb 32bit os

24. StanleyG88

Posts: 240; Member since: Mar 15, 2012

32bit systems do hold back the amount of usable memory a systems can address. Each addressable bit has a unique address that the system uses to access it. A 32bit system can uses a 4 byte (8 bits) register to store the addresses (hence 32bit, 4x8=32). That means the total unique addresses possible are 2 to the 32 power or about 4GB. No memory above this amount can be addressed because there are no available addresses to assign to the memory above this limit. Going to 64bit system (uses 8 byte registers hence 64bit 8x8=64) gives you 2 to the 64 power number of addresses or about 16EB (Exabytes) of addressable memory space.

18. grahaman27

Posts: 364; Member since: Apr 05, 2013

Armv8- "The architecture itself allows for more efficiency in the code" That will affect both 64bit and 32bit.

2. Teja171 unregistered

Where is the 64-bit Android software to utilise it ? 32-bit software wouldnt make much of a difference.

4. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Reading the article is key, no?

6. Teja171 unregistered

I've done it. There's no word from Google about the Software. ARM executive mentioned only from the hardware point. He never told anything about the software right ?

9. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010


29. wolfsaviorzx unregistered

If you think google isn't making a 64 bit Android you must be smoking dope. (it's actually already released to developers just a matter of official release). 64 bit Windows Phone is already in development as well. Most likely Google and Microsoft is waiting until 5gb Ram is on Phones before really pushing it (since it will take a long time for 64 bit native apps to be developed, consumers would automatically see "oh more ram" and that would help with development).

40. Teja171 unregistered

Get this to that StupidSmurf's brain. Did I ever mention that Google would never make a 64-bit software ? I did mention that there was no exact time frame of when Google would release it to the consumers. Don't you think that I never knew that they would improve their software ? Commenting is easy, but thinking and commenting is different. Think before you comment man.

39. Teja171 unregistered

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3. brrunopt

Posts: 742; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

This again ... the main reason we dont have others 64 bits ARM chips right now due to the delay of 20nm. Its not very financialy viable start manunfacturing arm v8 on 28nm just for a few months

5. Anshulonweb

Posts: 468; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

yes.....64bit is the way to go.....these processors are way more powerful than the 32bit one.....even 32bit codes run more efficiently on 64bit than on 32bit.....64bit is the future of smartphones.....

20. grahaman27

Posts: 364; Member since: Apr 05, 2013

I think you read that wrong, armv8 is the prizewinner here. 64bit? sure, it can go along for the ride.

7. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

And driving a Ferrari would be fun too, but not if it only has a 1 gallon gas tank! How about working on the efficiency of batteries rather than adding the need for more power to an already underpowered device! Just my opinion though.

36. Korgoth22

Posts: 17; Member since: Dec 21, 2013

Companies like ARM & Qualcomm make the chips, batteries are not their focus. You can't blame them for advancing the technology they focus on, just because another segment of the market (batteries) is lagging behind. I don't yell at the waitress, because the chef doesn't cook my meal fast enough.

37. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Yes I understand that, but they also write the codes to make the CPUs and GPUs work as they should when you use the device. Instead of throwing out a new chip set every 2-3 months they could focus on making their current offering more efficient thus saving battery life.

8. yowanvista

Posts: 341; Member since: Sep 20, 2011

Android first needs a full Dalvik/ART runtime natively compiled for AArch64 in order to take advantage of ARMv8.

10. 3rdDegree

Posts: 218; Member since: Jul 13, 2013

PERHAPS the next Android update will be optimised to run with a 64-bit CPU and QuadHD resolution

11. chunky1x

Posts: 270; Member since: Mar 28, 2010

Christmas is too damn long! I WANT ONE ON MY BIRTHDAY! :D

12. Amir1 unregistered

i believe s810 only in first half of 2015.

13. KenAdams

Posts: 55; Member since: Feb 17, 2014

64-bit processors for Android is an overkill. They already run so smooth on 32-bit quad core CPUs. *(sarcasm intended)*

28. tedkord

Posts: 17357; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Preparation H is overkill for KenAdams. His rump is already so pain free. *(sarcasm intended)*

14. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

What's with the 64bit chip everyone is making? Thought the next chip would be OCTACORE.

30. wolfsaviorzx unregistered

Both. 64 Bit 4 Main cores and 4 low power cores. Needs more ram though, i'm sure most consumers will be stupid enough to buy one with only 3 or 4 gigs of ram but I'll be waiting till it has at least 6 but prefer 8 gigs.

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