64-bit Android phones are coming for Christmas says ARM executive

64-bit Android phones are coming for Christmas says ARM executive
Executives of chip manufacturing companies are a bit surprised (no pun intended) at the speed in which 64-bit processing is coming to Android phones. Even ARM has been caught unaware by this move. Originally, the company figured that 64-bit technology would first be seen on corporate servers. Instead, after Apple introduced 64 bit mobile processing with the Apple A7 chipset that currently powers the Apple iPhone 5s, Apple iPad Air and the Apple iPad mini with Retina display, the road map has taken a rather sharp detour. Mobile consumer devices are now the recipient of the advancing technology.

Tom Lantzsch, ARM's executive vice president of corporate strategy, expects Santa to be dropping off under the Christmas Tree, the first of the 64 bit Android handsets. While the chips and phones could be ready for 64 bit processing by Christmas, it is unknown when a version of the Android OS will be ready. Lantzsch says that even existing 32 bit code will run better on ARM's 64-bit v8-A architecture. "The architecture itself allows for more efficiency in the code. So, that means better battery life, quicker responsiveness, better features," the executive says. " And once 64-bit software arrives, "There will be early adopters. The applications with the most need will certainly go first. And then the rest will come over time."

source: ARM via CNET



25. PBXtech

Posts: 1032; Member since: Oct 21, 2013

Google needs to ignore what Apple is doing and remain focused on their own product instead. Google's push to make Android run smooth on slower processors is a great move, continue in those lines and move towards 64 bit when they're ready, regardless of what Apple is touting.

26. superduper

Posts: 151; Member since: Oct 20, 2013

Apple is not pushing Google to 64-bit processing. Google's OEM partners are under pressure to compete with the iPhone spec-for-spec.

27. PBXtech

Posts: 1032; Member since: Oct 21, 2013

Google still holds the reigns. As for competition, marketing goes a long way. And on that note, I don't see Apple marketing 64 bit processing, the average consumer probably doesn't even know. What people want are phones that work great and have features that are usable daily, what type of processor it has is only for us tech geeks, which are the minority.

32. wolfsaviorzx unregistered

Android is already ready for 64 bit, it has been for years. Google has no problem releasing a 64 bit OS but what's the point with only 3/4 gigs of ram? Chances are it will come with Android 5.0 though

34. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

No the kernel it is based off is 64bit, the android compiler that makes the OS is 32bit. You will need a rewrite of the complier which no doubt google is working on. It is not as simple as 'flip a switch its ready...'

23. fireblade

Posts: 717; Member since: Dec 27, 2013

meanwhile in PC world, no progress in x86 architecture. We're stuck at sandy bridge for 3 generations.

31. wolfsaviorzx unregistered

To be fair this is mostly due to consumers not upgrading or not having a need to upgrade. I still have a 6 core AMD cpu that's running great. I think Steam Machines could push computer hardware forward if it sells a lot but who knows.

22. number29

Posts: 185; Member since: Jan 25, 2013

So innovative.

16. AfterShock

Posts: 4147; Member since: Nov 02, 2012

Part of me thinks and hopes too, this years Nexus will sport the 64 soc. I don't mind being a guinea pig for hardware as well. Mark my words for this though, LG will be the first to use it no matter the model of phone.

15. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

I like it, good news. :)

14. InspectorGadget80 unregistered

What's with the 64bit chip everyone is making? Thought the next chip would be OCTACORE.

30. wolfsaviorzx unregistered

Both. 64 Bit 4 Main cores and 4 low power cores. Needs more ram though, i'm sure most consumers will be stupid enough to buy one with only 3 or 4 gigs of ram but I'll be waiting till it has at least 6 but prefer 8 gigs.

13. KenAdams

Posts: 55; Member since: Feb 17, 2014

64-bit processors for Android is an overkill. They already run so smooth on 32-bit quad core CPUs. *(sarcasm intended)*

28. tedkord

Posts: 17519; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Preparation H is overkill for KenAdams. His rump is already so pain free. *(sarcasm intended)*

12. Amir1 unregistered

i believe s810 only in first half of 2015.

11. chunky1x

Posts: 270; Member since: Mar 28, 2010

Christmas is too damn long! I WANT ONE ON MY BIRTHDAY! :D

10. 3rdDegree

Posts: 218; Member since: Jul 13, 2013

PERHAPS the next Android update will be optimised to run with a 64-bit CPU and QuadHD resolution

8. yowanvista

Posts: 341; Member since: Sep 20, 2011

Android first needs a full Dalvik/ART runtime natively compiled for AArch64 in order to take advantage of ARMv8.

7. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

And driving a Ferrari would be fun too, but not if it only has a 1 gallon gas tank! How about working on the efficiency of batteries rather than adding the need for more power to an already underpowered device! Just my opinion though.

36. Korgoth22

Posts: 17; Member since: Dec 21, 2013

Companies like ARM & Qualcomm make the chips, batteries are not their focus. You can't blame them for advancing the technology they focus on, just because another segment of the market (batteries) is lagging behind. I don't yell at the waitress, because the chef doesn't cook my meal fast enough.

37. o0Exia0o

Posts: 903; Member since: Feb 01, 2013

Yes I understand that, but they also write the codes to make the CPUs and GPUs work as they should when you use the device. Instead of throwing out a new chip set every 2-3 months they could focus on making their current offering more efficient thus saving battery life.

5. Anshulonweb

Posts: 468; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

yes.....64bit is the way to go.....these processors are way more powerful than the 32bit one.....even 32bit codes run more efficiently on 64bit than on 32bit.....64bit is the future of smartphones.....

20. grahaman27

Posts: 364; Member since: Apr 05, 2013

I think you read that wrong, armv8 is the prizewinner here. 64bit? sure, it can go along for the ride.

3. brrunopt

Posts: 742; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

This again ... the main reason we dont have others 64 bits ARM chips right now due to the delay of 20nm. Its not very financialy viable start manunfacturing arm v8 on 28nm just for a few months

2. Teja171 unregistered

Where is the 64-bit Android software to utilise it ? 32-bit software wouldnt make much of a difference.

4. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

Reading the article is key, no?

6. Teja171 unregistered

I've done it. There's no word from Google about the Software. ARM executive mentioned only from the hardware point. He never told anything about the software right ?

9. jroc74

Posts: 6023; Member since: Dec 30, 2010


29. wolfsaviorzx unregistered

If you think google isn't making a 64 bit Android you must be smoking dope. (it's actually already released to developers just a matter of official release). 64 bit Windows Phone is already in development as well. Most likely Google and Microsoft is waiting until 5gb Ram is on Phones before really pushing it (since it will take a long time for 64 bit native apps to be developed, consumers would automatically see "oh more ram" and that would help with development).

40. Teja171 unregistered

Get this to that StupidSmurf's brain. Did I ever mention that Google would never make a 64-bit software ? I did mention that there was no exact time frame of when Google would release it to the consumers. Don't you think that I never knew that they would improve their software ? Commenting is easy, but thinking and commenting is different. Think before you comment man.

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