Apple to put 5G in all 2020 models, the cheap iPhone included

Apple to put 5G in all 2020 models, the cheap iPhone included
2019 was hyped up to be the year of 5G but the new technology seems to be rolling out at glacier pace. Coverage is spotty at best and you can count the 5G capable phones on the fingers of one hand. By 2020 the situation should have improved quite a bit and especially towards the end of the year when Apple usually releases its new iPhones.

Despite being more than a year away, the 2020 iPhones have been the center of attention for a while now mostly because they’re expected to bring big changes. Now, one of the most influential Apple analysts, Ming-Chi Kuo, has delivered another interesting bit of information about them and it’s an exciting one.


Apple forced to react to Android moves


The golden nugget was found in the latest report Kuo has prepared for investors interested in Apple. The document was obtained by MacRumors and contains curious predictions not only about iPhones, but the Android segment of the smartphone market as well:



Now, we already knew 2020 iPhones will have 5G, but previously it was believed that only the two more expensive versions will have it and Apple will cut the premium feature from the “budget” version. It seems, however, that pressure from the Android world is something even Apple can’t ignore. The aggressive pricing of Android phones, especially those coming from Chinese manufacturers, has forced Apple to rethink its strategy. Cupertino will have to respond to the upcoming wave of affordable 5G smartphones in its own way:



The mmWave band refers to the ultra-high frequency range which 5G uses for those blazing-fast speeds and low latency you keep reading and hearing about, so without it you’re not really getting the same experience you might expect from this technology. It comes with its own drawbacks, which we examined in our article regarding the safety concerns surrounding 5G. Mimicking other companies by cutting out mmWave might not be an option for Apple, however.

Full-fledged 5G all around


Kuo predicts that Apple won’t go for the “Sub-6GHz only” approach for the cheaper iPhone due to the additional development costs and instead will have both Sub-6GHz and mmWave bands available on all 2020 models. This makes sense since having one model have different 5G capabilities than the rest will be confusing at best, if not straight-up misleading. Plus, even the lowest-priced iPhone will likely be $750 or more and having “crippled” 5G at that price point would be unacceptable.

Despite Apple acquiring Intel’s modem business, the company won’t be able to utilize its technology for the 2020 iPhones and will have to use Qualcomm’s 5G modems for at least a year. The fact that there will be 5G on the cheaper model, which judging by the iPhone XR will probably be the best-selling one, means Qualcomm is probably giddy with excitement about the upcoming profits.

If you want to find out more about next year’s iPhones, check our rumor review where we regularly add the latest leaks and insights that circulate the internet. And if you’re planning to upgrade this year, then the 2019 iPhones rumor review might be more interesting for you.

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43 Comments

1. iloveapps

Posts: 855; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

Good job apple.

3. cmdacos

Posts: 4100; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Lmao!!

4. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Maybe iloveapps didn't see the part where they said in this article "Apple forced to react to Android moves". Because Android has been leading, and Apple has been following. Only I blind fool would say good job Apple.

5. Iodine

Posts: 1478; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

How does that prevent Apple to do a Good job ? How many of those android are developing their own integrated modem ? Spoiler: none.

6. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Qualcomm and Samsung are both making SoCs with embedded modems on board. And both will be sampling this year. As a matter of fact Qualcomms next 865 will come in two variants. One without a modem, and with an integrated 5G modem. Apple had to buy Intel's modem line, especially if they want to keep up with the others. Also Apple is not going to have an integrated 5G modem built on board their Ax SoCs by next year. It will be a separate modem still.

7. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Also there is some reports that Huawei's Kirin is also going to have an embedded modems as well. Kind of a lot more than your initial none. I make that out to three, which should be out before Apple. Right Iodine?

19. iloveapps

Posts: 855; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

Android is still catching up with Apple’s A10. Even iphone 6 runs smoothly than your Galaxy S10.

23. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1377; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

Dude you sound like a broken record

41. darkkjedii

Posts: 30966; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Google iOS 8.0.1. The update that bricked iPhones, and caused Apple to downgrade back to iOS 8.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS_8 Here ya go. My 6 plus was bricked badly.

10. User123456789

Posts: 818; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Samsung and Huawei.

12. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Lots of Android OEMs use Qualcomm SoCs.

34. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Wait. Haha. You -"How many Android are developing their own integrated mobile? Apple bought the tech from Intel. They didn't make it from scratch. Samsung makes their own modem dummy. They also make their own batteries, SoC, RAM, internal storage, case, GPU, and everythign else for the most part. Apple is only designing hardware, someone else actually makes it. Now I just showed you how stupid you are. Several OEM's make their own parts. Not all of them source from QC. So actually quite a few OEM make their own stuff.

35. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Who gave you a thumbs up, is as stupid and ignorant as you are. Samsung Semi-Conductor makes modems -https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ex​ynos/products/modemrf/exynos-modem-5100/ Mediatek also makes their own modem. -https://www.mediatek.com/innovations/4g-lte-technologies Huawei also make sits own modem. - Look Amazon actually sells Huawei Hotspot that uses their own 4G modem and they make 5G hardware too. It's so funny how all troll are so stupid and ignorant and never have facts. You don't have fact bruh. You also haven't posted for a long time. I think you need go back to sleep. Or maybe you should actually wake up. With the internet at your fingertips, its amazing how stupid you are. Samsung makes 90% of the parts in their phone. Samsung has only sources Qualcomm's modem for the US market because of sprint and VZW. Samsung has been making modems for several years and so has MediaTek. You are a completely clueless trolling little loser. I don't pity you being so dumb. All Apple fans are!

38. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

According too PhoneArena, Apple tried to source 5G modems from Samsung and MediaTek. Samsung was unable ot fulfill the order, because their capability of making them was already used up, with previous orders including their own phones. That's why Apple had to go back to Qualcomm after they broke off with Intel. You are a completely dumb person. PA postedthat article here. In fact, Alan tried to start a rumor claiming Apple could get modems from an unlikely source...HUAWEI. Now I just proved you wrong. Now shut-up for an eternity. It's so easy to make a stupid person, look stupid. I enjoy [roving you Apple zealots wrong.

16. apple-rulz

Posts: 2020; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

Georgi Zarkov is a known anti Apple troll, so what else would he write! Also if you want to talk about following, your beloved Samsung Gear watches will finally be getting ECG and fall detection, following Apples lead. Now go hurt yourself you old blind fool.

18. iloveapps

Posts: 855; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

Idiot just like your Sammy putting 5G where is it not yet available in most cities. Same with your Samsung FAIL, really need to release without quality and proper testing.

21. Mike88

Posts: 327; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

You started your android drama again? What is Android? It's an OS and has nothing to compare with apple hardware. You should talk about one brand you like instead of defending every phone which has Android. Compare OS with OS and hardware with hardware. Saying Android leading in modems is plain stupid. If Samsung means Android and Huawei means Android too then Samsung and Huawei should be the same company. But they aren't.

24. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

PhoneArena stated that "Apple forced to react to Android moves". At the end of the day most Android OEMs use Qualcomm SoCs. Yet they are embedding a 5G modem in their next SD 865. So Samsung, LG, Oppo, HTC, Sony, Google, and lots of other Android OEMs are all going to be using Qualcomm SoCs. If all you know is Apple Mike88, which clearly you do, then clearly you didn't know that most Android OEMs use only a few SoCs. Qualcomm is by far the biggest.

29. Mike88

Posts: 327; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

Will there be 5g phone from HTC next year?? It's android and you mentioned it... Now you see what are you doing by combining Android under one brand

37. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Dude, the "boy" is stupid. Several Android OEM's make their own modems. Samsung has been making modems for years.

40. darkkjedii

Posts: 30966; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

LMAOOOOO! Wow dude.

8. miarfeus

Posts: 3; Member since: Apr 24, 2019

Good job Apple!

9. User123456789

Posts: 818; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

When PA says cheap iphone they mean the 12R that will cost $800-900. Dont expect Pixel 3a-ish iphone.

13. mackan84

Posts: 375; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Yep, insane that “cheap” is in the same sentence as “iPhone”. PA kinda mocked 99% of the worlds population.

25. sgodsell

Posts: 7207; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

It is cheap hardware.

26. mackan84

Posts: 375; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

Yep pretty much Qualcomm, Sony and Samsung in them.

20. iloveapps

Posts: 855; Member since: Mar 21, 2019

Because apple is not cheap unlike your Samsung who cannot make a $400 ASPish

39. oldskool50

Posts: 1323; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

Yes, because Samsung doesn't charge 5 times what it costs them to make a phone. iPhone XR cost roughly $200 to make. Cost over $1000USD outside the US in most places outside the US. That's 5 times the cost to make bruh. That's a rip off for 2014 specs. Enjoy paying a lot for a fast SoC that you keep bragiing about, that can't even do what the S10 can do. I don't care about fast UI speed. Phones are more than fast enough. Benchmarks, you hang on to them for dear life. What you gonna do when Android benchmarks are higher? what you gonna say then? Apple is cheap. They were so cheap, they were willing to use Intel non-working 4G modem. Apple is so cheap, their batteries degrade to almost useless after just 1 year. Apple is so cheap, they put a 720p+ display on a $750 phone, while with Android such a phone has at last 1440p. Yea Apple is actually cheap, just like you are actually stupid.

42. darkkjedii

Posts: 30966; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Dude, why in the hell are you arguing with that fool? C’mon man.

43. User123456789

Posts: 818; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

I have had samsung stuff before. But dont like. Nor planning to have again.

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