Next Samsung Exynos tipped to be a 4GHz beast, yet more frugal than Snapdragon 830

Next Samsung Exynos tipped to be a 4GHz beast, yet more frugal than Snapdragon 830
Samsung is apparently testing the next generation of its Exynos mobile chipset line, presumably the Exynos 8895, and it is shaping up to be a big leap ahead in mobile computing. While the Exynos 7420 in the Note 5, and the 8890 in the Note 7, are both built on the 14nm nodes, with 8895 Samsung will reportedly enter a whole new era of 10nm chippery.

The result should be a sharp increase in performance, but, more importantly - a drastic drop in overall power consumption. How sharp of a boost in speed? Well, the source tips that Samsung is probing the test batches of Exynos 8890 at the whopping 4 GHz for the powerful custom cores, and no less than 2.7 GHz for the eventual Cortex-A53 ones in a big,LITTLE architecture. This is about a 30% increase from the 8890, which was being tested at 3 GHz maximums. Of course, these are the peak clock speeds, which will likely be capped a lot lower for a retail handset, but they still show the potential of the 10nm production process to deliver huge power jumps without blowing up the roof. 

We mention the potential for overheating, as, at the kind of mobile processor clock frequencies we are at now, Qualcomm has trouble producing its flagship Snapdragon chips in a way that is sustainable in terms of power and thermal efficiency. Adding to this observation is the source's tip that, at 4 GHz, the Exynos 8895 achieves the power consumption of the upcoming Snapdragon 830 at 3.6 GHz, which bodes well for the Galaxy S8, Note 8, or whatever phones Samsung decides to equip with its 10nm chippery.

source: I IceUniverse (Weibo)

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51 Comments

1. dubaiboy78

Posts: 457; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

Just wooooow

26. Kumar123 unregistered

I think this is fake rumor. But no matter how good the exynos version maybe they will always use the SD version for some region as long as Qualcomm keep using their foundary.

41. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1581; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

They didn't use SD in 2015, so I wouldn't say always

48. deewinc

Posts: 455; Member since: Feb 21, 2013

Exactly.

2. Captain_Doug

Posts: 1037; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

chippery

3. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Weird that they aren't using A72?

4. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

Snapdragon and exynos been using their own custom core since S7 :-/ A72 is for mid-ranger chipset like SD652, SD650, kirins, and helios.. the same for A73

6. PenTiltoKet

Posts: 552; Member since: May 18, 2016

This is NOT 100% right. The SD650/652 were using the 28nm and clocked only 1.4GHz/1.8GHz. If Qualcom using 14nm for the SD650/652, they could clock it higher, perhaps at 2.2GHz/2.5GHz, and will be as good as the 820. The whole 808/810 overheat is not the Arm Cortex A57/A53 or A72/A73 design fault. But the fault of Qualcom design team that were NOT good enough.

18. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Well, I guess you can look at it that their design team wasn't good enough, but I would mostly blame the 20nm which was leaking too much. There is a reason Nvidia and AMD stayed away from it, but maybe those have sucky teams too?

15. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

If you read the article it says A57 and A53. A72 is faster and more efficient than A57.

24. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

(it doesn't say A57)

47. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

It did, they changed it 2 times after I wrote my comment.

16. sarcastic_nerd unregistered

They are using their custom cores that are based on ARM designs. There is no way the A72/A57 will reach 4 GHz. They will use the new processor design ARM will release this fall.

20. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

The article said A57, now it says A73, but source just says "large-core". I should have known better than to trust PA to get their facts correct before writing an article.

5. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

I would choose the Snapdragon Samsung over the Exynos coz it lags less.

7. senseiJ

Posts: 172; Member since: May 02, 2015

Proof? Because I saw a video of exynos being faster than snapdragon.

13. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

is it one of those infamous "Speed tests"? if so it's down to poor optimization from Samsung. After-all the OnePlus 3 is now faster with Snapdragon 820.

33. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

The Oneplus 3 is only faster because of the faster animation speed, when returning to the homescreen and switching between apps. The Exynos chip opens apps as fast as the S820 and games even faster.

37. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Not convinced it's just down to animations, it's a factor but there is more going on. Would be interesting to see a test with them disabled.

46. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

Not all things in the Internet is true especially reviews. Real life personal experience matters.

12. WPX00

Posts: 511; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

Have an Exynos S7 and have no idea what you're talking about. It's not only faster but also more efficient. The S820 is a chip more equivalent to Samsung's last gen Exynos 7420 than the 8890 is in CPU performance.

19. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Check out Erica Griffin's OnePlus 3 review. it's been confirmed in many tests on youtube the OnePlus 3 barely throttles at all while devices like the Galaxy S7 and others do. For sustainable performance OnePlus 3 is king, at least when it comes to Android phones. Maybe they're just dispersing the heat better than Samsung's design.

27. keithtae

Posts: 564; Member since: Mar 25, 2015

Yea, that's because she tweaked the settings on the one plus herself and there's a probability that the phone will overheat with constant use. That thing is a 6 gig phone and can't even perform properly. Shame on one plus and those snapfiredragon

28. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

What are you suggesting? She changed settings to make the OnePlus 3 throttle less? That would need a new kernel for a start, one that changes or allows these settings to be changed. Hilarious!! Samsung defense force out in numbers again I see.

30. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

The battery on the oneplus goes down big time, I be thinking that's why it is not limited, you can ro. Up the Samsung CPU and max it out also problem is the battery goes down big time like the oneplus

35. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Performance on the Galaxy S7 has been shown to drop 25% after 15 minutes, that's not something I would want. Not claiming SD820 is more efficient because it's clearly not based on information we have, but it's not an Apples to Apples comparison if one device throttles more aggressively. Maybe the thermal limit for Exynos 8890 is just lower as result of a design choice from Samsung.

34. HomerS

Posts: 419; Member since: Sep 19, 2014

The Oneplus 3 has a 3000mAh battery, which takes up less space inside the phone than the 3600 mAh battery in the S7edge and therefore has more room for a better heat dissipation, as both have a similiar body size. And the Oneplus 3 also has to push less pixels with a 1080p display compared to 1440p on the S7edge, which heats up the phone less.

36. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Good post.

43. ebilcake

Posts: 1231; Member since: Jul 16, 2016

Only thing I would add here is that the OnePlus 3 is thinner so taking that into account I'm not sure if it's true the battery takes up less space relative to the size of the phone. OnePlus 3 is probably able to disperse heat better because of the metal build vs the glass/metal build of the Galaxy S7 Edge.

45. sissy246

Posts: 7129; Member since: Mar 04, 2015

My note 5 has the exynos and it is very fast special after marshmallow update with no lagging.

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