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Xiaomi's president strikes back at Apple's Jony Ive, offers him a free Xiaomi smartphone

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Xiaomi's president strikes back at Apple's Jony Ive, offers him a free Xiaomi smartphone

Last week, Apple's lead designer Jony Ive directly accused Xiaomi of blatantly copying the looks of iOS for its MIUI interface. He said that it's not only lazy, but also a theft of intellectual property. Subsequently, Jony Ive admitted that he might have overreacted and been too direct, but the damage had already been done.

Thus, it was just a matter of time before the latter recuperated and came up with an answer. Lin Bin, the co-founder and current president of Xiaomi, calmly and nonchalantly addressed Ive and suggested that he could send a Xiaomi device to Apple's creative pundit as a present.

"Xiaomi is a very open company, which would never force anyone to use its products. However, one can only judge Xiaomi's gadgets after he or she has used them," Lin Bin told China News Service. "I'm very willing to give a Xiaomi cell phone to him as a present, and I look forward to hearing his remarks after he uses it."

Apple's iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus are already available for pre-order in China, Xiaomi's home playground, where they'll officially land on October 17. It seems that Cupertino's new phones bask in quite the popularity there.

source: The Register

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posted on 13 Oct 2014, 08:27 11

1. sip1995 (Posts: 1594; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)


LOL....

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:09 15

10. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


love it hahahahah screw you jon, you steal from every device out there

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:12 11

14. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


on top of that the ios is a simple copy of the samsung os from 2006

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:39 4

27. HildyJ (Posts: 295; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)


Not to mention the whole flat "material design" look is what PC users used to call "normal" because shadows and such chewed up precious CPU cycles.

posted on 14 Oct 2014, 00:58

60. chocolaking (Posts: 494; Member since: 22 May 2012)


xiaomi the shameless company copied what samsung has done.
i meant, samsung copied apple.
so, xiaomi is just doing what samsung did and take it to the next level.

posted on 14 Oct 2014, 06:52

64. steodoreben (Posts: 277; Member since: 26 Sep 2013)


Very well said Lin Bin, such professionalism. Apple Inc. also copies, they just denied the fact. When the first smartwatch was introduced, no one bats an eye but when Apple reveals its own smartwatch, Apple fans then said it was innovation. SRSLY?

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 12:55 2

52. Ashoaib (Posts: 3229; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)


apple need to fire jony ive... they should hire a good designer

posted on 14 Oct 2014, 08:52

65. kenshin9880 (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Oct 2014)


then apple will die yo............. XD

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 08:31 1

2. greathero1 (Posts: 566; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


No need to back track. It is, what it is lol.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 08:31 4

3. vuyonc (Posts: 1023; Member since: 24 Feb 2014)


He imitates the trollface perfectly tho

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 08:32 10

4. Chuck007 (Posts: 1148; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


I think Xiaomi should learn to limit the amount of "inspiration" from other designs. Miui is user friendly and all, but the blatant copycat is so obvious it's hard to sell Xiaomi devices where patents mean jack squat. Come on now... how hard is it to make your own icons? Both Huawei and ZTE already moved on to me original UIs so I am positive it's not something Chinese phone oems "must" do to sell their products nowadays.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:03 3

8. synot (Posts: 277; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)


If you do a background check you will find out that its actually Iphone that copies xiaomi U.I.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:59 6

34. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


Only if you are reading Hugo Barra's blog. MIUI v5 is an iOS 6 knockoff, and MIUI v6 is an iOS 7 knockoff. Every tech site has called Xiaomi on this.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 10:04 2

36. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


Xiaomi has been known to be a big iOS copier. That is quite true. Users used to add MIUI to their devices because they wanted it to be more "iphone like". Havent looked at it in a while to see if it still is, but it definitely used to be a blatant rip off.

Either way, I love the bit of trolling from Lin Bin.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 10:38 1

41. synot (Posts: 277; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)


Go do your research again

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 10:36 1

39. synot (Posts: 277; Member since: 14 Sep 2012)


go do your research again

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 08:45

5. Chuck007 (Posts: 1148; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


*to make

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 08:45 6

6. rantao333 (Posts: 322; Member since: 21 May 2013)


take a look at this before you comment

original post:http://tw.gigacircle.com/1268531-1

xioami vs 5s
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db882dd3.jpg

xiaomi tv vs aplpe tv
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db87d7e5.png

xiaomi phones vs iphone 5c (left xiaomi, right 5c)
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2e46cba48.png

mi powerbank vs apple ipod
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db87cc2e.png

Mi router vs apple's touchpad
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db87e3a2.png

mi pad vs ipad
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db87ef22.png
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db8806c6.png

using theapple's "aperture" icon image and paste on xiaomi phone photo
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db87b8b1.png

ceo vs steve job
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db882dd3.jpg
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db880eb0.jpg

xiaomi presentation ripoff steave job
http://s2.gigacircle.com/media/s2_53dd2db882605.jpg

xioami website vs aple website
http://www.mi.com/mi4#fea-three
http://www.apple.com/iphone-6/

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:11

11. TerryTerius (Posts: 1927; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


... Considering aluminum is extensively used in supercars (Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, McLaren, Spyker, Aston Martin), hypercars (Pagani & Konegseigg) , jumbo jets (Boeing), uber-luxury vehicles (Bentley & Rolls Royce), military vehicles (armor plating, vehicle chasis, jet fighters/bombers), and construction... I'd take issue with the statement that aluminum is a "cheap metal".

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:21 4

20. engineer-1701d (unregistered)


its a cheap metal thats light weight also carbon fiber and alloy's are used now plus other metals, the aluminum is cheaper then the polymers and does not handle hits meaning more money in apples hand.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:35

26. TerryTerius (Posts: 1927; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


In context, the reference seems to be a slight at the quality of aluminium as a material, not its price. Considering its light weight, high strength to weight ratio, ease of shaping it into forms and its immunity to rust... Its hard to think of a metal that can be mass produced enough at a similar cost to realistically replace it. It isn't expensive, but it isn't a cop-out or terrible material. It's used by everyone for a reason. Carbon fiber is indeed coming down in price, and Aluminum

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:41

28. TerryTerius (Posts: 1927; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


And aluminum* has subjective aesthetic properties that Carbon Fiber simply doesn't. But that's more personal taste than fact.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 11:47 2

44. timepilot84 (Posts: 113; Member since: 16 Aug 2012)


Where I come from, we make beer cans out of aluminum. If you actually took a second to look it up, you'd learn that "aircraft grade" aluminum has nothing to do with the tensile strength of the material, it's ability to avoid scratches, or anything that Apple tells you it does. The only difference between "aircraft grade" aluminum and the run of the mill stuff is that aircraft grade aluminum can be extruded during manufacturing without as much cracking.

Do you want to know what else is made out of the premium material aircraft grade aluminum? Window frames. Rain gutters. Yeah, it's a a cheap metal.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 12:21

47. TerryTerius (Posts: 1927; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


I'm very much aware of the differences, and they're not all the same grade of aluminum. Instead of making a sweeping statement and assuming my ignorance, you could look at what I a was saying. That aluminum is not an inherently "low quality" metal.That was the entirety of my point, which you completely and totally skipped over. It's in how you use it, but I guess you're too busy wanting to make a point you didn't even attempt to pay attention to the words -_- If nothing else, you just further pointed out its versatility, and didn't in any way detract from my point that it's used in a broad spectrum of products, and not done so because of its cost. When cost isn't an issue and it's still chosen as the go-to metal for extremely expensive constructs and products (which is why I listed examples of high-end or strategically important systems) over other metals, that alone makes my point. But whatever, you're right if it makes you feel better. I'm done talking about aluminum. Have a great day though :)

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 12:31

51. TerryTerius (Posts: 1927; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


I don't even know why you specifically focused on "aircraft grade" aluminum as your example. But I can counter-point that by noting its use in car-frames, engines, as armor plating in military-grade vehicles and as aircraft frames is SPECIFICALLY because of its strength to weight ratio and other qualities. Not because of cost. Granted, it may be blended with other metals to adapt their qualities but that still doesn't detract from my point. So... I don't even get why you're focusing in on one specific application out of the many I supplied. And congratulations on developing beer can technology.

posted on 14 Oct 2014, 04:47

63. vincelongman (Posts: 4576; Member since: 10 Feb 2013)


Lol the irony in your comment
The 'best' supercars, hypercars, uber-luxury vehicles, military vehicles, construction, sports equipment, aeroplanes, rockets don't even use metal, not to mention aluminum
The 'best' use composites
Polymer (plastic) matrix reinforce with fibers made from carbon fiber or kelvar or glass
Though aluminum is still used as its cheaper than other metal/alloys such as steel and titanium
But if it was viable, almost everything would be made out of composites (plastic + fiber) since they are almost better in all aspects

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:15

15. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2227; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)


So much FUD. Lucy Koh never worked for Apple.

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:15 1

16. Chuck007 (Posts: 1148; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)


There is a fine line between blatantly copying and drawing inspiration from something. Drawing decent inspiration in a sense drives technology forward by taking an idea and refining/improving it with your personal touch (meaning not trying one's best to make it a clone), but ripoffs does nothing to the same effect - which is often an attempt to leach on others popularity. Honestly, Xiaomi being renowned in China I don't see why they see the need to copy and paste everything Apple does anymore. Heck, in a couple of years they're already guaranteed to make their mark worldwide.

Of that list however I do think you are on to something about Apple Pay lol

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:17 3

18. Settings (Posts: 1720; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)


We all know iOS isn't clean in the "innovation" department but it doesnt mean all other mobile OSes are discounted in the fact.
They have copied each other one way or another.
Its not news anymore who copied who, but who sells more with their own side of innovation. Then suing comes to place

posted on 13 Oct 2014, 09:55 1

32. TerryTerius (Posts: 1927; Member since: 10 Apr 2014)


If companies were a bit more honest about the fact that they borrow from one another and develop off each others ideas instead of zealously denying it, you'd clear up a lot of that. On one hand, you have to set limitations because you want to defend your product and revenue stream by preventing clones popping up everywhere... But as you say, no-one has clean hands. Especially Apple who believes absolutely no-one deserves credit for good ideas but them and only they are allowed to be "innovative".

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