Speed tests show Verizon's LTE faster than Sprint's WiMAX
The tests were done using the mobile Hotspot functions on both phones and those conducting the test were given an Apple iPad 2 and a Toshiba laptop to use on each of the two networks. The tests also were divided by location, such as "inside a building" or "near a window". The bottom line figures showed that on average, Verizon's LTE network had speeds of 9Mbps down and 5Mbps up. Sprint's WiMAX network averaged about 1Mbps both down and up.
According to Piecyk, Verizon peaked at 19Mbps down and 10Mbps up. In addition, the analyst claims that Big Red's network is the more reliable between the two, and offers more coverage than Sprint's 4G service. With talk that Sprint might switch to an LTE network of its own, a report like this could carry plenty of weight in the carrier's boardroom.
Over 1,000 tests revealed that Verizon's LTE 4G network is faster and more reliable than Sprint's WiMAX 4G service
1. gsmallthewa (unregistered)
Haha Sprint sucks
30. downphoenix (Posts: 2134; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
correct: Wimax sucks. LTE is faster, but pointless if Verizon is gonna charge you overage for using it.
55. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Remember the test between the Thunderbolt and the Evo showed that the phone itself is already faster. LTE being on a lower freq as we all know means better in building service.
2. ecml (Posts: 129; Member since: 23 Mar 2010)
It's ridiculous how Verizon already has more 4G coverage than Sprint. SMH haha. Sprint needs to focus more on expanding their 4G network instead of getting in between the AT&T and T-Mobile deal
8. birdman (unregistered)
actually sprint has more coverage than Verizon's LTE. Since Sprint 4G runs on clearwires network you can see places where 4G has not been officially annouced on Clear website and there are a lot of new 4G makets up!
3. ajac09 (Posts: 1167; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)
I wish we had numbers of how many thunderbolts have been sold I really wonder how many are on their network compared to evo's and epics and shifts
4. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
And that's the thing. Those speeds are awesome now, but I really want to see if you're going to get the same results when you actually have a good amount of customers on the LTE and WiMAX network...
10. tragichero (Posts: 163; Member since: 07 Jan 2011)
verizon has sold a ton of thunderbolts thus far. keep in mind that the 4g aircards are also already on the network as well. i dissagree with the thought that verizon lte will ever be too congested. at least not until theres only 2 carriers left.... which i hope never happens.
23. heli777 (unregistered)
Also, keep in mind that LTE handles data traffic more efficiently than any other 3G or 4G network out there. Each device requires less bandwidth then devices on other networks.
56. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
With Sprint having had their 4G network up for a year (maybe more or less) They have aircards and hotspots and home modems being sold by both Clear, Cmcast, and Sprint to name a few. VZW cant even see that traffic yet and Sprint does have the spectrum to increase the bandwidth if needed. I phone that has been out close to 1 month and a couple of aircards cant even see the amount of aircards hotspots and phones that are on sprints 4g network.
5. mark1 (unregistered)
Am just glad that sprint will dump wimax and get lte,why because wimax really sucks no building penetration, no 4g in buildings
WHY did sprint not go with lte in the 1st place and not wast their money on wimax.
6. phone333 (Posts: 331; Member since: 04 Feb 2009)
There was no LTE available when they went 4G.
9. p0rkguy (Posts: 675; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Because they were forced to at the time due to competitive reasons with Verizon on CDMA coverage. LTE wasn't even in beta phase at the time so WiMax was the only option available on expanding their market.
26. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
Because like they always do...Sprint rushes to be first rather than efficient...
29. shiftmobile (unregistered)
Building penetration has nothing to do with the type of technology being used. Its the frequency its being run on. Most of Sprint's network is on 1900Mhz. Doesn't penetrate as well regardless if its LTE, CDMA, GSM or WiMax. So switching to LTE won't change anything in that sense. They are contemplating the change because LTE is better and 85% of the world has adopted it as standard.
38. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
So Sprint can improve their network, add more towers and coverage, switch to LTE, and STILL not get into all buildings because of their signal range? Wow. Had not heard that, Will do some reading- but it is kinda common sense if you don't over think it. Sounds like Sprint has a very strong reason to want the AT&T and T-Mobile union to fall through. If the frequency is the problem, they cannot improve enough to truly compete.
43. salexander38 (unregistered)
Look-up Sprint's Network Vision Plan. They are transitioning services from broadcasting solely on 1900 Mhz, to broadcasting on 800 Mhz, 1900 Mhz, and 2500 Mhz. Pretty unique concept compared to other carriers.
58. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Sprint may have enough 800mhz spectrum to divide it between LTE and CDMA the have just shy of 20mhz they would need 10 at a minimum for LTE. The FCC has just gave the ok for a new PTT phone that uses 800 CDMA for one of its freq.
57. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
They had to due to the spectrum the recieved in the deal where the purchased nextel.
7. vzwemployee444 (unregistered)
Verizon's LTE is faster than sprint's Wimax network but we dont have as much coverage for 1. And 2 if u know anything bout the EVO and wimax when u tether it to a device the speeds get cut by well over 50% I have an EVO and I consistently get 8mbps download speeds but when i tether I never get more than 2 mbps and I have a thunderbolt and i get 9 to 11 mbps and when I tether I get 5 to 8 mbps so test it on the phones not on the gathering capability cause its not fair but like I said VZW will still come out top but not as much as what this test shows. And dont use speedtest.net it tests server speed not ur internet connection use speakeasy.net it tests ur actual connection.
21. Cobjones (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Mar 2011)
Speakeasy is better, but LTE is by far better than WiMAX... It has better user load support, and that leads to better speeds.
And to Mark1.. WiMAX doesn't have anything to do with Sprint's building penetration, it is their spectrum, so them switching to LTE won't help that.
49. kingjuicer (unregistered)
i have no problem with the speeds what so ever!i have an EVO and i average 5-10 mps on and off tether!
11. phone333 (Posts: 331; Member since: 04 Feb 2009)
The Article doesn't really "Reveal" anything. We all knew LTE was faster.
12. p0rkguy (Posts: 675; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
I'm going to try and divert the attention at something else instead of a WiMax vs LTE war.
Everybody is too focused on the bolded text in the picture while the real debate is the iPad 2 vs the Toshiba laptop with the same connection but totally different speeds.
34. p0rkguy (Posts: 675; Member since: 23 Nov 2010)
Yes! I knew it was going to happen once I criticized an Apple product. Thumbs down with no replies.
Please continue because that's the best response Apple defenders can come up with.
59. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Are you serious. Thats like comparing a laptops speed against a Desktop. A tablet against a laptop. Thats the same as the 9 month old Evo against the just dropped thunderbolt. The phone itself is faster it can process data faster. So it already has a leg up. But i will be found wrong on that one by some one so I say right now whatever
13. mark1 (unregistered)
but what about 4g in buddings, or did sprint just assume it would work, and did not do any in buddings test.
14. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
I agree with phone333 this really didnt show nothing..there are far more sprint 4g phones on the market then Verizon so it should be faster. But lets do this test in one year and see the results.Verzion may be faster but it wont get the speeds that its getting now
15. Allday28 (Posts: 273; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
I bet they will. LTE does stand for long term evolution wich means they will always be upgrading the speeds to make them faster. You actually think its just gonna stay at what it is?? If you do you sir are a idiot!! Hahahahahahahaah!!
60. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Hey reading is fundamental. I can tell you dont you probably only read the brochure that was put out. They tested wimax in phillie when it was launched and it was blazing fast. Like VZW's LTE is now and then the came back and is was slow as hell for a 4g. Headlines reading that Tmo's HSPA+ is faster but it was noted that as the users grew it slowed down. They crossed to Jersey where they had just launched service and it was blazing fast in the new market. With VZW capping the service it may never happen with them and with them looking to buy up the market the AT&T will have to give up to buy TMO is the feds allow that rate killer to happen shows they dont really have enough 700 mhz to last.
16. Hello-dirt (Posts: 100; Member since: 02 May 2010)
The issue is antenna prowess. My clear @home device is stronger and faster than my evo 4g. The antenna needs to be stronger for it to compete. Another issue that I have is that the distance from phone to radio tower could be another deciding factor. I love my wimax internet but would easily switch if the price was nearly identical for lte and I could actually move my lte device. I still do not believe that wimax only averaged 1mbps; Something is fishy. Who is funding all of this "research"?
17. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
yeah i agree with u hello-dirt that dont sound right at all.@allday28 i know what lte stands for i work in the industry.and if u think it gonna be the same speed by this time next year you are the idiot!!!!hahahhahahhaha!! there be more phones out and mobile hotspots dummy think about it
25. Allday28 (Posts: 273; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
So whats the point of having lte if its gonna get slower? The more it grows the faster it gets even with more devices!!!! I cant beleive how ignorant you are! Work in the industry huh? What an employee that knows nothing about lte?? Verizon would not invest this kind of money in something thats gonna slow to a crawl or even get slower. You sound like a sprint fan boy!
32. downphoenix (Posts: 2134; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
and you sound like a Verizon fan boy.
44. Allday28 (Posts: 273; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
Nope actually a att customer right now. But soon as verizon has LTE in my arean I will be jumping ship.
61. remixfa (Posts: 13901; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
everything slows down when you add more device to it. It doesnt matter if its GSM, CDMA, HSPA+,Wimaxx, or LTE. They all have only a limited bandwith to share among devices. LTE is fast, there is no doubt about it. But give it a year to have devices actually weigh down the network a bit and then rerun the speed test. With a loaded network, TMO's HSPA+ was still the fastest in the last test they linked... even faster than VZW's LTE. TMO has since flipped the switch for 42mb/s HSPA+, which is faster than current LTE anyways.
All 3 major techs (wimaxx, hspa+, and LTE) are capable of much higher speeds with network upgrades. This is just the beginning.
50. in4parbrad (Posts: 9; Member since: 14 Oct 2010)
just wondering...i dont recall that verizons 3g evdo revA slowed down when they graduly increased customers to over 90 million. (or sprint for that matter) check your information prior to posting something you are not informed about. I am giong to have to assume based on your poor english that you are not employed by any corporate carrier. Now that we have the opinion of "Wireless Giant" leave the facts to the real "industry experts" and stop giving us a bad name....CLOWN
62. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Verizon never really upgraded their 3g they just expanded it. Thus every test done over the years on their network said it is not the fastest but it is consistent. Sprints was the fastest but due to their small spectrum holding and the fact that they only had on freq to build on it wasnt happening. Sprints 3g network is slow in some areas and faster in others. VZW is running 1900 and 800 in the same market. You call yourself an expert more like a fanboy. And I have both Sprint and VZW.
19. jovy121 (Posts: 14; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
This is such sh**, How much does Verizon PAY phonearena. I call BULL$** no evo gets less than 1 Mps in a 4G coverage. Pics to prove your test. I'm so tired of everyone falling for the LTE is sooo much better than wimax BS. Wimax is slower but not that damn slow
22. Cobjones (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Mar 2011)
When they use the tethering app it does slow it down that much.
They should have used a WiFi or USB modem instead of tethering, and should have used speakeasy.net and not speedtest.net. Speedtest is as good as the server (Chicago location has best backbone FYI).
27. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)
Well...don't bother sharing those pics unless you have the data of every EVO in the country. You are one person...lower spectrum, lower latency, global adoption of LTE gives it the advantage over WiMaxx not to mention better upload speeds (download speeds are a given for LTE). LTE definitely has more oomph than WiMaxx...face it, WiMaxx is the NetZero of the wireless industry boasting lightning fast browsing speeds but poor overall performance compared to what LTE will have to offer & in terms of longevity. The sad thing is that WiMaxx has had a huge head start on the competition & still appears to be unstable.
63. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
Thats if it is really that slow. Every since Clear stopped expanding coverage it has gotten worse. More phones and now more coverage. Bad recipe. When they either add LTE or jump ship to LTE it will get better. There is still the Wimax upgrade out there or just got straight to LTE Advanced. They should keep WiMax regardless.
20. jovy121 (Posts: 14; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
Pay $100 or $200 for 10 GB of LTE if you want!!! It's your bill.
24. Cobjones (Posts: 14; Member since: 09 Mar 2011)
Unlimited on your phone and $50 dollars for 5gb... USB and MiFi costs are the same as Sprint's....
28. codymws (Posts: 236; Member since: 17 Jun 2010)
Sprint actually costs more for 4G on both phones and MiFi's...
They charge $10 premium data on phones, and all the rates on MiFi's cost more.
But they're cheaper everywhere else.
64. elandrumiii (Posts: 109; Member since: 20 Mar 2010)
In may VZW is dropping the unlimited 4G and the price for the hotspot is coming. The cap is coming and it is coming in May. That is coming from the VZW employees in the store. I checked multiple stores. Sprint WiMax is still unlimited.
33. downphoenix (Posts: 2134; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
Sprint's 5GB is just for 3G use, 4G is unlimited. Verizon is capped, 3G or 4G.
42. BaiGanyo (Posts: 308; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)
I would like to see what vz unlimited 4G plan costs? That's right. Sprint has it. Vz doesn't. So have fun using your super fast speed on that laptop for 2 or 3 hours a month.
31. Akash (unregistered)
These result dont justify sprint wimax its not that worse that they are showing i live in nampa, idaho i easily get 6 to 8 mbps on my download 1 mbps upload. I know LTE is better and everything but sprint plans are cheaper then verizon and unlimited date no complains I like sprint a lot.
35. Daemon (Posts: 19; Member since: 07 Mar 2011)
What these tests show is that the carriers always inflate real world estimates and coverage. Yes one service is indeed better than the other but neither meets the stated levels that the carriers professed which were used to encourage us to prematurely purchase their devices.
36. in4parbrad (Posts: 9; Member since: 14 Oct 2010)
Those of you that clearly don't work in the industry (and/or) have any idea what they're talking about allow me to fill you in....sprint's bandwidth is much higher than that of Verizon's such allows for worse building penetration. Switching to LTE will not improve that flaw unless thy were to go with a universal 750mhz spectrum like VZW. As for he misconception that LTE will begin to have latency and reduced speeds over time...you COULDN'T be more wrong. LTE is already a fairly old technology in most of Asia (in reference to how fast it changes) there is already companies like huwaei and China mobile hat have upgraded LTE networks identical to that of VZW to nearly 100 mhz yes 100...there will be no 5g anytime in even he distant future LTE is it. One day you will see speeds nearly 5-!0X faster tban VZW current offering on a system very similar to what they use now...don't believe me? It was proved this.past year in Vegas
45. Allday28 (Posts: 273; Member since: 19 Nov 2010)
Try telling that to Tmachaveli. He so called works in the industry to and thinks verizons LTE is gonna get slower in the future. He is truly an idiot!
37. in4parbrad (Posts: 9; Member since: 14 Oct 2010)
Here's a link for all you non-believershttp://www.ubergizmo.com/2010/
41. BaiGanyo (Posts: 308; Member since: 07 Feb 2011)
Verizon is faster? No, verizon is 3 and a half years slower. Anyways, saying that WIMAX is significantly slower than 3G because they tested in places with no good signal is stupid. I've had over 14Mbps on WIMAX. Of course I can find places where the speed is what they show above, but one can easily find places LTE doesn't get any speed. Joke test put out by vzw lover. Big deal.
48. Josh (unregistered)
There is no way this is accurate....I'm not sure what this dude was smoking when they performed this test, but WIMAX is anywhere from 5-8 mb consistently in speed tests. I have experienced this myself....maybe they need to double check their connection, bc those speeds have EVDO written all over them. Pretty irresponsible to post these results without any proof...where's the screenshots?
51. soapbox (unregistered)
Ok lets not remember WiMax has been around for over a year. It is an old technology, coverage is far better for wimax then lte...at the moment. There is a new wimax standard that is coming out that is 300Mbps. It was approved yesterday and does not require a substantial tower upgrade. But dont forget Verizon has very little lte traffic. They have one handset and one hotspot. So lets start adding devices and users and see how it will do. Sprint has certainly upped their game in regards to service since dan took over. They have had fewer dropped calls compared to AT&T and T-Bag. So they stand a strong 2nd for dropped calls and coverage. Their plans are cheaper and the ETF are lower. They have had more innovative handset then any other provider. They will also have the first dual screen and 3D handsets. So before you go bashing understand what is really going on. I had/have Verizon less then 30 days ago. I also have a Sprint work phone that sees a far amount of travel and I consume 6K minutes a month on it. I was shocked that their service was as good as I experienced. From everything I heard I was expecting crap...that is certainly not what I got! Do they drop calls more then verizon...yes but 2x more no! I might have dropped 3 calls a year with verizon and I might drop 5 with sprint. That is not bad. My range of weekly travel spans a 100 mile radius chicago to milwaukee and Aurora to rockford. I tried this with ATT and it was so bad!!! I lasted a week before I gave up and returned the iPhone! T-Mobile was marginally better but they were pretty fast!
65. Bobby D (unregistered)
Where are these tests being done??? I live in MN and my Evo tethered with my ipad 2 gives me nearly 9mbps at home and 7 at work...VZW LTE isn't even available here. Somehow these tests seem fishy to me.