Samsung's 12 Gb stacks may grow to 16 Gb next year, letting phone makers pair the future Snapdragon 830 processor with up to 8 GB of RAM
Snapdragon 830 may support 8 GB of RAM, claims analyst, to be coded as MSM8998
1. dil2abu (Posts: 305; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
8 Gb for a smartphone is definitely an overkill..
13. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
Yeah he doesn't know the difference of gigabits and gigabytes.
29. Hexa-core (banned) (Posts: 2131; Member since: 11 Aug 2015)
He probably knows the difference. That is a typing error.
12. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
How do you know? Who says it has to be for phones? As the articles says, there are tablets that could make use of it...right?
It make me overkill for "some" phones, but for a phone like the Galaxy Note, 8GB of RAM could mean adding more extended capabilities and maybe even bringing back some of the ones that were remove due to performance issues.
Considering Google is helping Samsung optimize TouchWIz which could mean on Samsung phones TW could be part of the OS instead of a layer that runs on top of it, 6GB-8GB of RAM could be a nice sweet spot for the Note which is a powerhouse device and none even matches it capabilities....NONE!!!!!!!!!!
14. Zack_2014 (Posts: 378; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Even with 8GB RAM, am sure Samsung will be able to somehow use up all the RAM and leave behind 400-500mb free xD
18. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
Full fledged windows 10 mobile phone would be good with this.
21. Shubham412302 (Posts: 431; Member since: 09 Nov 2011)
thats what every one said about 2GB, 3GB and 4GB ram sizes and now they are common
32. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1048; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)
Its not overkill if its running touchwiz(or should I call it lagwiz?). I wouldn't be surprised if the ram management still sucks and makes it lag even with that much ram.
2. KRISTIJANJE (Posts: 48; Member since: 16 Feb 2015)
Dear Qualcomm, concentrate on not f**king up 820 like you did 810 and 615. And only then we can speak of 830, 840 and beyond.
19. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
810 is so f**ked thats i love my M9 thats never lag and run all game smoothly.
615 is so f**ked thats my wife love her Alcatel idol 3 5.5 thats never lag ect.
Stop been an ass the heating problem was overblown.
End result is important not benchmark. smooth UI and gaming mean the SOC is good.
27. moronman66 (Posts: 162; Member since: 09 Jan 2012)
Nexus 6P is running fine with no overheating issues and not a stutter or hiccup in sight. V2 and V2.1 are far from hot-headed, but you make a good point that they should focus on not making the 820 the same situation at launch.
3. plasteek (Posts: 121; Member since: 07 Jun 2015)
Before the 830 will be the 821/825 !
821 being the buffed while the 825 being the 8 core variant !
4. gecko (Posts: 2; Member since: 01 Dec 2015)
why they keep on focus on adding up more and more ram?
cant they just focus on optimizing the ui without adding the ram every year?????
5. pmsap (Posts: 80; Member since: 26 May 2015)
Overkill??? Come on... the future is a all-in-one thing (at least for the bigger market segments). Laptops in your pockets. It's no overkill.
6. Martineverest (Posts: 337; Member since: 27 Oct 2015)
8 GB ram on phone OS?... Where is surface phone?.. Smart phones have peaked
9. KeyserSoze (Posts: 139; Member since: 06 Oct 2014)
It's not overkill if future Android phones can be used as a desktop pc like Microsoft's 950XL phone+Continuum. In this case 8GB-16GB of RAM is definitely usable and badly needed.
First thing I'll do with a 16GB RAM phone is run several VM's of desktop OSses on it. It's nice to have OSX, Win10, Ubuntu, Solaris, etc. all running on a tiny smartphone that fits in my pocket!
33. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1048; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)
Android is not useful as desktop OS, its pointless to scale it up any further. Android nor any other OS will ever supplant Windows as the dominate OS for desktops. Chrome OS has been a miserable failure, linux and OS-X fail to gain any ground. The only OS at risk of losing ground would be Android. If Microsoft manages to make a Surface Phone with full Windows 10, that would be a true PC-Phone hybrid and if they make more devices like it, and/or other manufacturers do, Microsoft will quickly dominate the market. No other OS can compete.
10. alex3run (Posts: 713; Member since: 18 May 2014)
Lol... Cortex A15 supports up to 1 TB of RAM.
11. TechieXP1969 (limited) (Posts: 10115; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)
A Gaalxy Note 7 with 8GB of RAM would be "totally wicked".
Problem is, with the bad ram management of Android because its a VM, the OS will probably suck up more than 1/2 of it for no reason.
Google really needs to work on that because VMWare has very good RAM management.
34. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1048; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)
Its not just a problem with Android in general, vanilla Android doesn't have nearly the problem with ram management as TouchWiz does. Samsung is just bad at software optimization, period.
15. Kumar123 (Posts: 741; Member since: 15 Jan 2015)
No matter what amount of ram you put in your device the key factor is optimization. Without proper optimization it just become another spec list. Look at Note 5. It has 4 GB ram yet it lose to iPhone 6 at multitasking which has 1 GB ram. Optimization is the key in which Samsung failed miserably with Note 5.
20. marorun (Posts: 3561; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)
Also loose to HTC M9 with 3 gb. ( iphone 6 as well. )
Iphone 6 loose at multitasking vs my wife Alcatel idol 3 with 2 gb as well.
Yes optimization is good but cant overcome physical hardware never forget thats!
16. Lycan155 (Posts: 254; Member since: 24 Nov 2013)
The sad thing on samsung phones the system would probably take 6 gigs of ram ang only giving the user ti gigs :| i hope they work on fixing how the resources are used
17. janno (Posts: 144; Member since: 19 Aug 2014)
Surprising that Samsung is just now making 20nm RAM for mobile. I thought they were usually ahead of CPUs with using next-gen process nodes for RAM. Or was that for flash?
23. Brewski (Posts: 350; Member since: 05 Jun 2012)
I just got a phone with the 810 today and 820 isn't even out yet! How can you be talking about 830 already!?
24. Chuck007 (Posts: 1109; Member since: 02 Mar 2014)
Only if it was x86. Surface Phone with 8GB RAM drool..
26. c.hack (Posts: 609; Member since: 09 Dec 2009)
Droid are up to 4GB and hexacore CPUs, and still get completely crushed by dual core 2GB iPhone 6s.
It reminds me of when Intel kept cranking up their single core CPU higher and higher. They were just too dumb to realize they needed to optimize and not overclock.
With a ridiculously inefficient Android OS with pile of garbage from the manufacturers and carriers weighing it down, no amount of RAM will help.
31. ibend (Posts: 4579; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)
1. those dual core is huge, it have more transistor than hexacore..
2. 6,8, or 10 core on android is for battery efficiency, not performance..
3. single core benchmark is totally useless for android, since no app run on single thread
please remember that simple fact
35. TyrionLannister (unregistered)
Doesn't any 64-bit processor support that.