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Siri can now be legally ported to iPhone 4

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Siri can now be legally ported to iPhone 4
Siri has been ported to the iPhone 4 already, albeit with mixed results, but the newest iOS update brings a big change in this effort, namely that it is no longer illegal to port Siri to the iPhone 4.

The issue had been that the ramdisks holding the system files for Siri had been encrypted, meaning that anyone who decrypted the files and pulled them out for other uses (such as Siri on the iPhone 4) were infringing on Apple's copyright (we'll withhold judgement on the rationality of said copyright). The newest update for iOS, 5.0.1, has non-crypted ramdisks, so the system files for Siri are free to be pulled out and used wherever they may, which of course means getting Siri on the iPhone 4. 

So, Siri should be coming to the iPhone 4 relatively soon, and should work properly this time, because hackers won't have to work around all the troublesome roadblocks that Apple had put in place requiring unique identifiers from the iPhone 4S in order to connect to Siri servers. Of course, there's no guarantee that decrypting the ramdisks was intentional by Apple, or even that they will stay decrypted in future updates. But, for now it should lead to some fun projects involving Siri. 

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posted on 16 Dec 2011, 20:38 8

1. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


With this news its really about time the s in the name of the iphone 4s was removed and the phone is now called by its original name of iphone 4 as they are now the exact same phone.

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 20:55 8

2. E.N. (Posts: 2218; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


stop trolling. The iPhone 4S still has the best camera and camcorder and is one of the fastest smartphones. I think that's enough for an "S". And I really don't think Android users are really in the position to make negative comments because your platform is filled with minor upgrades all around. i.e. the Droid Razr for is basically a Droid Bionic "S". Not even an S actually.

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 23:14 4

9. Cwebb (Posts: 501; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


Besides the fact that the Razr is a Bionic cut in half, with a better processor

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 00:52 8

13. RamyRamz69 (Posts: 390; Member since: 12 Dec 2011)


Minor upgrades? Lol....

iPhone 2g update to 3.0 = Search menu

Update to 4.0 = Ability to make folders

And lets say it gets updated to 5.0 = Notification Bar and iCloud

Bit** please, all of these things came pre-installed in my SEX Arc... Minor upgrades in Android is like the following:

Upgrade from 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 = 3D Camera, Panorama Camera, Screen Shot Button, Facebook Inside Xperia 2.0(Ability to share Apps and Widgets, that's ofcourse just an add on to the ability of liking, sharing, posting comments on photos, statuses etc etc).

And you say our upgrades are minor? LOL. Last time I heard an iOS update from 5.0 to 5.1 was to fix a battery problem. Oh yeah, forgot you sold crappy devices that do not work properly in the first day :D

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 08:10 2

18. chadrick0814 (Posts: 208; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)


I think they should call it the iPhone 4G......oh wait, nevermind.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 08:29 3

20. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


E.N You've left one of the most uneducated comments left here today. The camera is one simply bumped from 5 mp to 8 and now using a back sensor like that of the sony arcused from the start of 2011. However apple make all the pr nonsense of high tech gravity changes new features in the camera. Besides a small handful of phones most android phones are major upgrades,the galaxy s2 being a significant upgrade and change in design from the s1. Your droid razor comment is perhaps the most ridiculous of all,it being reviewed as a revelation in new phone design, aesthetics and materials. Put an iphone 4 with siri and a iphone 4s together under two cups and do a shuffling trick of the eye and try figure out which one is which once the cups are lifted,the hilarity of how they are the same is brilliant as it makes all those who upgraded to the 4s even more stupid. Dual core chip makes little ui or noticeable operating difference,and even so an iphone 4 retro fitted with a different chip is hardly what you'd class as a 'new' phone.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 08:33 2

21. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


stfu andro say what you want but you may not lie that hard.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 19:44 1

33. trollhunter (Posts: 7; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


tacohunter = troll

posted on 18 Dec 2011, 03:07

37. tacohunter (Posts: 408; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


What, he's lying and you're to blind to see it. Do some research, do your homework. He's talking like he knows the difference between i4 and i4s.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 21:51

35. E.N. (Posts: 2218; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


You don't need to put the phones under cups and shuffle because they look exactly the same! No one is claiming that the phones look different. And my comment about the camera was based on reviews done across many sites. But Apple probably just goes and pays every single website to say positive things about their camera because Apple is just that powerful.

Lol, YOUR comment on the droid razr is ridiculous, not mine. Basically you're saying that a new design (with most features relatively the same) is enough to release a new model. That's the exact reason why I used the droid razr as an example. Oh damn, this just in. The Droid Razr Maxxx will have an better camera and bigger screen!! Nice!

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 20:56 9

3. MichaelHeller (Posts: 2614; Member since: 26 May 2011)


except for those whole dual-core processor thing and better camera things...

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 21:02 2

5. clevername (Posts: 1407; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


Ahh you beat me to it Michael! LOL thanks though, that was exactly my point.

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 22:51 3

8. ardent1 (Posts: 1983; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Or the new antenna.

It's the never-ending pot shots by the android fan-clubs. Let's see, what new slam can I use against Apple.

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 23:15 3

10. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)


also the fact that it has GSM compatibility whereas the original iPhone4 doesn't. @andro. - there is still a place for the "S"

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 00:56 6

14. ilia1986 (unregistered)


Dual-core isn't really useful when your operating system doesn't require much processing power because it's UI hasn't changed much since 2007..

Better camera? Yawn.. Big Yawn. Was the SGS2 better than the SGS1 mainly due to it's camera? Of course not.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 16:15

31. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


oh right it also got dual core and thats pretty much it besides for an ever so slightly bigger screen… u know that kinda sounds like the iphone… i guess smasung just replaced an s with another i…

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 21:00 1

4. clevername (Posts: 1407; Member since: 11 Jul 2008)


You forget about the dual core processor and vastly superior camera.

As far as hardware goes that's not much of an improvement but before bashing apple for not going the distance, Sammy didn't put too much difference between the att galaxy s and galaxy s 2. Better camera and chip. Also more ram and bigger screen but as far as hardware goes that's mostly it. Sure there are a few more things but there are a few more things on the iPhone not worth mentioning too. Sure the sgs2 looks different but that's not a feature.
Point is a lot of devices don't change drastically when an update comes along. Some do but not all. Look at the evo 3d, better chip ram camera and screen. That's it

Apple may not have improved much but the improvements are good ones. Enough for me to buy it? No, LOL, I got an sgs2. But I did love my i4 before it broke.

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 21:32 4

6. Ikvnik (Posts: 14; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


Ha, I think the 's' should be removed now. Is it worth it?

posted on 16 Dec 2011, 21:53 9

7. androidphan (Posts: 32; Member since: 06 Nov 2011)


I would guess that almost 90% of iPhone users would buy the cheaper 4 over the 4s with Siri on it. iPhone 4 ran smooth enough and took good enough pictures for almost everyone who owns one. It's not that much faster than the 4 and the pics are not that much better. Unless your making a poster size picture out of one of your photos. Just saying... Not hating.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 00:26 5

12. E.N. (Posts: 2218; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


I've actually recommended some friends to do that, but 90% of all iPhone users is a stretch......and you probably know that.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 08:36 3

22. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Most buy an iphone 4 and they then claim they own an iphone 4s and nobody knows the difference. Its handy for those in that situation getting an old apple phone and it easily passing as the supposed best ever new iphone generation.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 21:32

34. E.N. (Posts: 2218; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Hmmm, theoretically you could be right but how would YOU know that. If nobody knows the difference, then its a toss up either way. You kinda just contradicted yourself.

posted on 18 Dec 2011, 07:14

39. T12RYK (Posts: 98; Member since: 10 Jun 2011)


Lol, I do that sometimes, got an iPhone 4 and stuck on a 2 year contract so if anyones asks I just say its a 4S.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 00:26 3

11. struong57 (Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


I'm SO stoked about this news! I've been contemplating upgrading from my iPhone 4 to the 4S for some time solely for Siri, but now I won't have to.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 02:18 5

16. Whateverman (Posts: 3158; Member since: 17 May 2009)


+1. I really do commend you for waiting, but I dont get it. Why is this one little feature such a must have all of a sudden, but when Siri was a free app on the App store, no one really cared much about it? I told everyone I could how great an app it was after using it on my ipad, but no one bothered to look at it, research it, or download it! But as soon as the iphone 4s came out...those same people ran straight for an Apple store, stood in line, and paid $200-$300, just to get Siri! The next day, everyone at work was walking around whispering sweet nothings into their iphone like, "What is the meaning of life?... What's it like outside?... Do I need an umbrella?..." It just seems strange to waste money getting a phone for hundreds of dollars just to get an app that use to be free... IDK, maybe there's nothing wrong with that but I just wouldn't do it. And I think this is an example of why it so hard to relate with many iphone users. Even though many of us upgrade yearly, you didn't see many Droid owners going for the Droid 2 or the Incredible GS2 owners becoming GS2 Skyrocket owners. But to each his/her own.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 10:06 1

25. struong57 (Posts: 2; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Whateverman, not sure where you came up with the notion that Siri was available on the app store before the iPhone 4S was released. I had heard of Siri being in beta shortly preceding the launch of the 4S, but not available to all end users.

The big hype about Siri, for me, is the hands free voice commands. I have been in the market for such a feature wee since the Motorola Droid 1, but the est app available was Vlingo or Dragon Dictation. For us non 4S users, the best voice command/dictation app available is Panneous. But it doesn't even come close to Siri's features and capabilities. These are the reasons Siri is such a coveted app at this time.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 11:25

28. Whateverman (Posts: 3158; Member since: 17 May 2009)


Its no notion, I actually used Siri for almost a year before it was launched on the 4s. Whether it was a beta version or not, I can't say for sure. But it was available to ALL end users, free of charge! Then came the 4S's announcement and the inclusion of Siri as a "New Feature". Shortly followed by message from Siri that it would be "disappearing" from all non-4s devices. The current version found on the 4s has deeper integration and a newer UI, but nothing new that would be worth paying several hundreds of dollars for.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 11:28 1

29. iamcc (Posts: 1319; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)


Siri was available on the app store as an app before it was bought by Apple and taken off the store...

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 15:16 2

30. munchb16 (Posts: 5; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)


Nope, Whateverman is 100% correct.

I had Siri on my iPod touch 4g since the day it was bought. Some (very, very few) of the current commands weren't initially supported, but it was available as a stand alone app on the App Store.

The day the 4s debuted, the app stopped working. All because i didn't re-up with Apple like they wanted me to.

This audacious characteristic alone with why I'm done with Apple.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 01:11 6

15. bbblader (Posts: 534; Member since: 24 Oct 2011)


E.N. said: ''The iPhone 4S still has the best camera and camcorder''
oh come on everyone knows that the Nokia N8 is better

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 08:37 3

23. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


The n8 has the best camera on a phone i've ever used! Use and iphone and a n8 in a pub on a night out for instance and the iphone is far inferior

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 03:27 2

17. hepresearch (unregistered)


This is not bad news for iPhone 4S owners... it is good news for iPhone 4 owners.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 08:19 1

19. willywill_evo (Posts: 162; Member since: 05 Jan 2011)


do iphone 4s owners feel stupid?? i mean some you pay $700 for the same phone you had last year ooo you bought 64 gb that almost $1,000 hahah i feel bad for you..got rape in the ass with no lub by a guy name big black who has a 3rd leg

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 08:41 1

24. andro. (Posts: 1927; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


Irioncally you can buy 32gb sandisk micro sd cards for 25 bucks these days but apple charge up to 100 bucks for each 16gb difference in iphone memory.

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 10:43 4

26. rfrapp (Posts: 76; Member since: 10 Jun 2010)


Why do you all assume that everyone that bashes the iPhone is a "fandroid?" Maybe they just don't like the phone. People are allowed to have their own opinions, and if you don't like it, then don't even bother reading the comments

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 10:48 2

27. hepresearch (unregistered)


I sort of like the iPhone, and I still bash it. I don't even own an Android device, never have, and indeed I get lumped in with the "Fandroids" for my apparent "love of Android" which is assumed to exist because I criticized a phone that I probably prefer (for my own purposes, which are few) over the Android stuff... so, just sayin', "I hear ya!"

posted on 17 Dec 2011, 19:25

32. LordBonztie (Posts: 51; Member since: 14 Nov 2011)


i guess the main reason that the app is not free anymore is because it has its own server now unlike before it was just a regular app.

posted on 18 Dec 2011, 02:54 1

36. nightmare (Posts: 28; Member since: 25 Nov 2011)


Yap apple did it on ur "siting allowance" again.am sorry for those who just spent $700 for an app hahaha.(dont giv me that dual core and camera BS its almost non-existent to the typical iuser) and taking away an app from other users to give it to the flagship only is a lame and a bully move.cant believe u r stil wil apple after it did that.

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