Samsung Galaxy S5 sales said to fall behind iPhone 5s and last year’s S4
What makes this worse is that the iPhone 5s is an eight-month-old device, while the Galaxy S5 is a new phone that was on sale for just its second full month in May. The S5 was expected to ride high on the hype of its novelty, but apparently, the sales results are not there. Moreover, even last year’s S4 has allegedly managed to sell in 7 million units on the second full month of sales, a clear indication that S5 sales are behind the S4.
One of the big problems for the company is that it has watered down its Galaxy brandWith surprisingly underwhelming financial guidance for operating profit of 7.2 trillion won ($6.96 billion) for the April-June quarter, Samsung analysts have all quickly dropped their forecasts for the company’s performance this year. According to researchers by Counterpoint, one of the big problems for the company is that it has watered down its Galaxy brand by releasing cheap Galaxy devices, while Apple keeps its iPhone brand reputation high by only selling premium devices.
"We will strengthen our product competitiveness by reinforcing our premium brand reputation, powerful product line-up, and cutting-edge technology," Samsung said in an immediate response. At the same time, though, Samsung did not reveal any sales number, nor did it comment on how true Counterpoint’s estimated sales data is. Counterpoint, on its part, says it bases its estimate on data from 35 countries, representing 90% of the global phone market.
One such attempt to strengthen Samsung’s premium brand recognition might be the rumored Galaxy F device, a smartphone made of metal and boasting a premium design and top notch silicon.
Rumored Galaxy F might kickstart a new, premium F brand for Samsung
1. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2261; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
It's sad how Apple's sales seem to never go down. People just buy and buy their products without even knowing what they put their money in.
3. Ashoaib (Posts: 1215; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
items are always sold on their percieved value not on real value... iphone has high perceived value while galaxy is the name on every device (low,medium,high whatever). Galaxy this, galaxy that... I am never able to identify the defference in midrange and low range galaxies until I dont go through full specs... common man doesnt have that much time or dont bother that much to read/research full specs, everyone is not a phonearena user
22. juandante (Posts: 236; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
What I can not understand is why the Galaxy S5 still don't have RADIO FM ????? This is complete bullsht and why I will NEVER get an high end Samsung device.
Samsung must know that a lot of people are waiting for a phone with plenty of FEATURES and that people are buying the GALAXY S5 because it is the DIRECT OPOSITE of Apple's politic, to have a COMPLETE, CUSTOMIZABLE, ALL OPTIONS smartphone.
I know that this is only Radio FM, but one SIMPLE thing is making me throw away all hopes I had on Samsung (and don't forget the Full HD all old chip from GS4). Seriously, come back to what that made what you are and you will have far better results than now, it is to say put the LATEST and COMPLETE hardware in your phones and stop realeasing the cold old food.
68. hipnotika (Posts: 282; Member since: 06 Mar 2013)
"Our studies show a trend shift of interest to digital broadcasting - namely, the focus on listening to music content on social networks or on YouTube. The flagship model of our devices is targeted at customers who use digital content, modern formats and channels of information consumption."
75. CellularNinja (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
"while Apple keeps its iPhone brand reputation high by only selling premium devices"
...forget about the 5C?
121. Gasteasoro (Posts: 4; Member since: 02 Apr 2014)
"...forget about the 5C?"
+1 to that
5C was a major flop. Guess Apple did realize this "watering down" in time so as to not push the iPhone 5Cheap further.
123. fzacek (Posts: 1242; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
Well the 5C is still much better than most of Samsung's low- and mid-range smartphones...
126. CellularNinja (Posts: 298; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
I wouldn't disagree with that fzacek. Samsung makes some terrible low end phones that do ruin their rep a little. But I just had a problem with the statement about Apple only selling premium devices when the 5C was clearly a non-premium plastic version of the iPhone created soley to increase profit margins.
127. fzacek (Posts: 1242; Member since: 26 Jan 2014)
I agree. They shouldn't say that Apple ONLY sells premium phones...
10. bigdawg23 (Posts: 345; Member since: 25 May 2011)
As an owner of both a Note 3 and iPhone 5, i can say you are incorrect on "People Putting there money in". One thing I have always experience and most all people I talk to is a relaible phone and OS with Apple. I am still on my original iPHone 5. Meanwhile I have had my Note 3 replaced 3 times because of defective USB Port, Micros SD slot and also Sim Card. I had a S4 for 3 months and dump it after the 4th replacement.
Most people want a device that works and not quirks that come with it. I use Android because of features with emailing multiple attachments because I am on the road all the time. I like my iPhone because personal it blows Android Devices out of the water on sound. In all my Android Devices they always have a lower sound and some interference when using the Headphone jack with a AUX port on a Stereo. Any of my iPhones, IPods or iPads never have this.
At the end of the day its preference. Just because I see it this ways doesn't make it right.
13. Ashoaib (Posts: 1215; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
probably you said opposite... I had iphone 4 and 4s but I ditched iphone forever bcoz android phones were blowing it out of the water... less customizations, irritating email experience when it comes to attachments, irritating experience when want to share data with other devices, home button was crappy and I got it fixed both on 4 & 4s, have lower voice than many android flagships... slow down as hell if you make your 32gb near to full... apps start getting closed automatically with 32gb near to full... battery capacity is very small, infact the whole phone is so small that it feel like a kids toy after playing with other OEM's flagships... infact it was not iphone's fault, it was other OEMs fault that they made their phones bigger which ultimately made me felt iphone a kids toy
14. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2261; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
That's Samsung for ya ;)
Ok. That's your experience. But I also know many many people with iPhones who have had to replace their phones because for example the speaker broke or the battery started depleting super fast.
28. Ashoaib (Posts: 1215; Member since: 15 Nov 2013)
agreed... I upgraded my iphone 4 to 4s bcoz the top reason was battery started depleting very fast
20. UglyFrank (Posts: 333; Member since: 23 Jan 2014)
Your story doesn't sound believable, my s4 is still perfect after the 15th month
31. iampayne (Posts: 208; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Whats your point exactly my iP5 is still perfect after 17 months.
34. Awalker (Posts: 183; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
It seems made up. I've had the S4 for 14 months and the only problem I have with it is the atrocity called Touchwiz.
46. Cicero (Posts: 209; Member since: 22 Jan 2014)
How offen do you use touchwiz on a daily routine? Do you stay all day long on settings?
69. bestmvno (Posts: 108; Member since: 07 Mar 2014)
I don't think you realize what touchwiz is. When you place a call you are using a touchwiz app, when you start the camera, you are using touchwiz, when you go to the app drawer you are using touchwiz, when you navigate the home screen, you are using touchwiz. When you launch an app you are using touchwiz (animations mainly). Yes, you can change default apps to something not touchwiz, but the framework is still running in the background consuming resources.
76. Awalker (Posts: 183; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)
I very rarely use it because I have a Nexus 5. It's not just the look of Touchwiz that I hate it's the overall feel. It seems sluggish compared to other devices.
23. fanboy1974 (Posts: 1107; Member since: 12 Nov 2011)
Apple devices have problems to. I had to swap my 5s for a spongy right upper corner and I had to replace a 13 month old battery in a iphone 5; something that Apple charges $80 for. The worst issue was seeing people swap iPhone 5s models left and right for the "level" issue during the first month of release. Eventually Apple released a software update to fix the issue but some people were already on their 4th replacement.
I would say Apple users find more issues because they want the perfect device.
61. elitewolverine (Posts: 1166; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
Here in tech, i exchange far less iphones compared to the Galaxy line of phones probably on the order of 3:1
74. jove39 (Posts: 1247; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)
Agree with you on sound quality of android based phones...but android OS doesn't have much to do with audio quality...It's largely OEM implementation...for example...audio/music playback is quite on Nexus5 than my 2 year old HTC OneX...Audio quality of HTC One(M8) is way better than any iOS device...for that matter, even $349 phone OPO have much better audio quality than iPhone5(s). I have compared my self.
77. refillable (Posts: 583; Member since: 10 Mar 2014)
Samsung 7.7, 2011 device, Kicked by a football from ~7 feet, flying and fell to the concrete, still works as it should right now. Meanwhile, one of my friends iPhone 4S lags extremely badly after the iOS 7 update and had software related issues that I would not imagine to endure. Your claims on software/hardware reliability does not reflect all of us.
If you want android with good sound quality, try HTC.
12. sip1995 (Posts: 660; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)
Go ask a Samsung user at the street, what OS his phone has ? You'll be surprised by the results.....
38. superfans (Posts: 122; Member since: 30 Jul 2012)
I'm samsung user , i know what os my phone is rocking but i only have 1 question that is when will i get android L ??
53. StraightEdgeNexus (Posts: 2672; Member since: 14 Feb 2014)
He pointed specifically to an average guy with little to no interest in their smartphone tech.
16. Arte-8800 (Posts: 3086; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
After Galaxy S2, Samsung have lost the wow factor. No long does the advertise about their specs, like they did on their S1 and S2. Exynos Cpu and Amloed and how fast their Cpu was, comparing it to others.
Cheap junk dustbin plastic with no weight or feel and touch to its device, comparing it to the Z2, it feels classier and prestige, with all Dragontrail Glass and the extra heavy weight along with metal sides.
Look at the Nokia 8800 Arte, it has a 2.5 inch screen with carbon fibre, titanium, stainless steel, Sapphire glass, and metal, weighing at 160grams, for a small phone like that. That's pure prestigious.
When I hold my Note3 and hold the Z2, you can easily tell that Sony put great thoughts about how the phone looks and feels, along with the heavy weight. It feels really nice holding the Z2.
25. juandante (Posts: 236; Member since: 23 Apr 2013)
It is exactly what I said witouth even reading your comment (at least agree on the begining).
Samsung is no more putting their advertisment on the hardware as they did before, since the S4 they just put old hardware and they abandon one after the other very important features like FM Radio.
The ONLY reason I started to take Samsung as a serious alternative to Nokia N-series was that they had the same politics as Nokia at the time, and now what they do ?
Old processor, old screen, forgeting of options, slow phone versus competition, bad speakers. They don't innovate anymore on basic hardware.
I can remmember every new N-series was top hardware wise.
SAMSUNG PUT BACK YOUR HANDS ON THE TABLE and come back as before !
60. elitewolverine (Posts: 1166; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)
I must be dying i agree with you.
When i hold my note 3 next to the Sony Z1s i play with on a daily basis along with the M8, the feel of 'premium' is not there.
They have watered down the Galaxy brand so much, that no body knows what Galaxy really means anymore, to the average consumer, it is just a phone they bought.
71. bestmvno (Posts: 108; Member since: 07 Mar 2014)
Why in the world do you want a heavy phone? That's a big turn off to me. I don't need my phone to way 1/3 of a pound like your claim of the Nokia Arte.
89. darkkjedii (Posts: 10122; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
U claimed to have a nexus 5 not too long ago, now a note 3. Hmmmm...
106. darkkjedii (Posts: 10122; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
You are a liar man. Ninetysix called you out about it already, liar.
107. Arte-8800 (Posts: 3086; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Lie about something I never said, that I have. I don't see the point and what benefit and advantage would I acclaim.
I never owned a nexus 5.
26. JakeLee (limited) (Posts: 651; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
Did you ever take a look AOSP itself?
It's so amateurishly written that making a *product* on its base would be a real rip off.
But unfortunately, people aren't aware of this, and there are TONS of craps of this kind.
95. tedkord (Posts: 4282; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Keep trying to sell it, man! Maybe you'll eventually convince someone and knock Android down from 80% market share to 79.999999999999999999999% market share!
122. JakeLee (limited) (Posts: 651; Member since: 02 Nov 2013)
Sorry disappointing you, AOSP isn't written in Java.
From all those BSs you haven been spreading, I came to the conclusion that you are most probably an elementary school kid pretending to be a tech savvy adult.
Your BSs are THAT ridiculous.
Do us and yourself a favor : shut up and go ask your mom for more milk.
36. jshan (Posts: 156; Member since: 25 Dec 2011)
Don't worry bout millions of peoples ! They might correct than you !! Or maybe they all love to have something really look and perform well !!
37. iampayne (Posts: 208; Member since: 12 Aug 2013)
Well thats a dumb comment. This is what people want; apps, the ability to make phone calls, a good camera, ecosystem. All which are served very well by the iPhone. So how are people not knowing what they put their money into? Just because someone buys an iPhone it makes them dumb?
109. Arte-8800 (Posts: 3086; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
This is what happens when the tech we have (Nokia) far exceeds the tech of the iphone. Nokia is going to start a revolution in wireless charging, but sadly taken how LONG it takes Microsoft to do anything, they will probably snatch up the patent and claim is as their own, and the iTards are going to whoo and whaa about it like its amazing, JUST because it bears a half eaten rotten Apple on it.
51. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 517; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
THERE IS ONE BIG LIE.
Or at least, the truth is not said.
Samsung have not only one high end device like Apple. Every year ppl since S3 , ppl buy more and more the Note devices too(wait to se Note3 numbers). So the number of both - S and Note must be counted (Not to mention Active)
Samsung's politic is not same like Apple's. ....
66. nithyakr (Posts: 27; Member since: 20 Jun 2014)
Well Apple tend to provide users with better user experience where as Android on the other hand has too much half baked software products and hardware.
From my experience with Samsung GS3 and GS4, both I have switched a couple of times for screen flickering issues, Button press issues and battery issues.
But with my iPhone 5, I haven't had any issue upto date and the experience seems to be enjoyable than the touch wiz. Everything seems to be smoother and quicker on iOS.
Of course someone can argue that his/her GS3 or GS4 gave them no problems. But we have to admit that Apple takes quality of the product way more serious than Samsung. Thats why the sales numbers are higher for Apple.
92. ArtSim98 (Posts: 2261; Member since: 21 Dec 2012)
There's more than just Samsung and Apple
82. __0__ (Posts: 225; Member since: 07 Jan 2014)
Galaxy note is the only galaxy you should care about .
The rest are rubbish
110. Arte-8800 (Posts: 3086; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Apple made the ipad mini after they saw how popular samsungs 7" tablets were.
Apple made colored plastic phones to be "Cheaper", samsung had colored plastic phones.
Samsung came up with the idea of a smaller tablet for better portability and ease of use.
Apple use an ARM CPU for their devices.
The ARM v8 was the first 64bit ARM CPU, Apple just made the first Native O/S to run on it.
And samsung have made their own O/S thank you and they done it before iOS 1.
115. darkkjedii (Posts: 10122; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)
Also apple is the #1 tech company by market cap value.
Their products sell like hotcakes.
They reinvented the smartphone.
They revolutionized the mobile market.
They have the best selling line of phones ever.
Their products (in particular, phones and tablets) have the highest resale value.
They have the highest customers satisfaction rating.
Now what, and please be intelligent?
124. momonm1 (Posts: 23; Member since: 30 May 2011)
In order for Samsung to catch up with Apple is for them to improve on hardware..., Galaxy Line way below apples hardware components...
When you hold these 2 devices... You'll fall in love with Apple because of its Premium feel...
125. nodnarb (Posts: 24; Member since: 27 Apr 2012)
I think while many people buy them blindly some people also know what they are buying and prefer the experience of apple devices. I used to get exclusively android phones but when i had some phone misfortunes last summer I inherited a family member's iPhone 4s. I have to say I have grown to love the iPhone because it is just so convenient for everyday life (considering I have a macbook as well). Not sure what I am going to do when I have an upgrade; will have to test out some good android phones again before deciding
2. naittosan (Posts: 28; Member since: 28 Jun 2014)
Most people are not technology savvy, they buy what they know and trust.
19. Arte-8800 (Posts: 3086; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Typical, just like Ford sells more cars then BMW, and Merc. That shows that IPhone's are Ford. Cheap no quality and no prestige.....
45. ihavenoname (Posts: 1260; Member since: 18 Aug 2013)
It doesn't really go that way. But closer to truth would be like this:
Audi= Galaxy S+ Note
VW and Škoda= Other Galaxies
(But seriously VAG and Samsung are completely different companies)
67. nithyakr (Posts: 27; Member since: 20 Jun 2014)
If you think that, Samsung's plastic is more prestigious than the aluminium finish of the iPhone 5S, you obviously has a different taste than the most of the people.
91. Ninetysix (Posts: 1363; Member since: 08 Oct 2012)
LOL..which ford exactly has the same price (or more) as a BMW or Mercedes and sells more? Is Ford known for its customer service and customer support? Getting dumber and dumber each day broski.
101. Arte-8800 (Posts: 3086; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)
Come on broski, it was a sarcasm, post.