Pair of launches for Verizon: Motorola DROID RAZR November 10th, Samsung GALAXY Nexus November 24th
The Verizon MAP list isn't always right and unfortunately, the proof of this can be seen with the Samsung GALAXY Nexus. Originally thought to be coming to market on November 10, U.K. newspaper The Telegraph says it has heard from Samsung that the first Android 4.0 flavored smartphone will be launched in the States one week after the November 17th launch in Britain. A poster on Phandroid's Android Forums who claims to be a Verizon insider, says that because of the lack of Verizon's bloatware on the phone, the carrier has decided not to push too hard for its launch. The November 24th launch is not written in stone and a launch could actually take place later than that date.
source: DroidLife, Telegraph via Phandroid
An internal Verizon document confirms the November 10th launch date for the Motorola DROID RAZR (L), the Samsung GALAXY Nexus (R) could launch November 24th or later
1. ScrewTHAT posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:00 9
$299 so with tax and activation fee it would be like $400... screw that these phones aren't THAT much better than the GS2 and I got that on sprint for like $75 and thats WITH tax and activation fee waived. What a RIP...
13. warlockz posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:53 8
Agreed, 299 for a two year contract lol I rather dish out the retail price on the gsm version and go with a no contract plan somewhere else wiith no contracts.
24. squallz506 posted on 31 Oct 2011, 23:39 1
exactly what i did. unlocked lg g2x-$300 + monthly 4g-$30/mo
20. belovedson posted on 31 Oct 2011, 22:38 3
umm the nexus while not exynos will blow the gs2 out the water because of ice cream sandwhich and the beautiful screen. you underestimate this phone.
the camera on this phone is unbelievable. i can't wait to hold one
49. vantenkiest posted on 01 Nov 2011, 22:19 0
Verizon didnt get the Galaxy S 2 and if this is how verizon is giong to play the ICS may not make a difference with so many other phones coming out that will be getting it.. I wouldnt be too surprised if they decide to cancel the release of the phone entirely... I think that would be a bad move on verizons part.. I personally wanted the function.. but now i was sorta leaning to the nexus but i have a full 16 gig micro sd card.. if this phone isnt 32 gigs than i cant use it . since there is no sd card slot..
50. KingKurogiii posted on 01 Nov 2011, 22:35 0
um it's a Nexus. the only thing it's missing is Exynos but that hardly matters because it has the next best thing so it can have LTE.
51. vantenkiest posted on 01 Nov 2011, 23:58 3
its missing a micro sd card slot my friend. and for me that kinda kills it unless it has 32 gigs of onboard storage.. its not a want with me its needed.. thats how i do my work all of my programs are hot loaded on my sd card when i plug my phone into a pc
along with all my books i need for various activities and my music sure i can get rid of that but thats only 3 gigs free.. not much room for anything else..
52. KingKurogiii posted on 02 Nov 2011, 00:45 0
xD there'll be a 32GB version but if taking an SD Card matters so much then the Droid Razr is probably the one.
53. vantenkiest posted on 02 Nov 2011, 01:37 0
i just have my own personal issues with motorola but you are probably right.. I like the design of the nexus soooo much better. and the lack of bloat right off the bat is a huge perk no root req yay lol.. its also going to take a while to Transfer all that info from sd to the new phone.. and I really hope that they have the 32 gb for 300 if its more than that im screwed.
23. jkapster posted on 31 Oct 2011, 23:16 0
Come on guys, that's why you sell your old phone and offset the cost of your new one. For example, I sold my Galaxy S on craigslist last week for $220, VZW will be giving me a minimum of $50 toward a new phone if i sign up for a 2 yr contract. So, the phone only ends up costing $60 - $75 tops. I've been doing it for the last 2 yrs, works all the time! ;)
42. koutrelakos posted on 01 Nov 2011, 15:44 1
Or you can sell your old phone and use the cash for something else besides a new contract and an overpriced piece of hardware... You're a prime example of how the human mind works -- if it wants something, it'll use the available resources to provide logic and reasoning to back your decision.
44. KingKurogiii posted on 01 Nov 2011, 16:16 0
okay so you sell your old phone, use it for something else then...what? you don't have a phone anymore smart one. if you're going to get a new phone for whatever reason or the other then the logical thing to do would be to bury as much of the expense as you can by selling the old one that you won't be using. sure i've had to renew my contract once but the last three phones i've had haven't costed me a dime out of pocket. you should hope that logic comes into play in all aspects of your life in one way or the other.
31. gdbw posted on 01 Nov 2011, 07:59 2
November 24th is thanksgiving. So what you're saying is that the phone will launch on that day with nobody in the stores? I would say 100% no. Most likely it will launch the day after on crazy, insane, greedy consumer day.
32. superguy posted on 01 Nov 2011, 09:17 1
Agreed. That seems much more likely.
At any rate, I'm not buying November 24th either. I can't believe PA didn't even check the date to see if it was even viable before posting this.
41. KingKurogiii posted on 01 Nov 2011, 15:39 0
it might be available online on the 24th. people will be happy and full after Thanksgiving Dinner and they might feel like having some Ice Cream Sandwiches for dessert not to mention the excitement there will be for it's launch on Black Friday when people are spending money anyway.
2. Immolate posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:02 6
I'm more interested in hearing when the Note will reach our sunny shores. The nexus is pretty bad-ass, if cheaply constructed, but the but the Note has HUGE.... tracts of land. I can't wait to get my grubby mitts on one.
9. maxican16 posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:39 1
+10 for the Monty Python reference! LOVE that scene!!
3. KingKurogiii posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:03 0
xD on Verizon's own site it says the Razr will ship by the tenth. lol
it's funny how funny Verizon is about their bloatware.
26. Droid_X_Doug posted on 01 Nov 2011, 01:45 0
If the pre-ordered RAZR ships on the 10th, and that is the same day the RAZR is available in VZW stores, that kind of screws the folks who have pre-ordered. At least I thought the objective of pre-ordering was to avoid the hassle of going to a store and have the phone arrive at your door the same day it was available at the store.
Maybe I am expecting too much? At least that is how Apple has spun the concept of pre-ordering.
34. roldefol posted on 01 Nov 2011, 10:24 1
It says "by the 10th". So it could be any time between now and the 10th. All the pre-order does is guarantee you a phone by launch day.
5. Immolate posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:06 1
Can you imagine waking up and every morning and realizing you just slept with Sprint, day after day, for two years?
Oh, yeah, I guess you can. Sorry. Didn't mean to be cruel.
Just kidding! Sprint is my hope for forcing Verizon and AT&T to behave. They've been doing a good job lately.
7. Scuba_Steve posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:24 1
Not lately. Dropping unlimited data and not grandfathering previous plans. Not to be mean but Verizons speeds on coverage are worth the price. Everyone is following Verizons example.
12. KParks23 posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:48 5
verizon service blows lately!! when i first got the phone and switched from sprint it was all good but now 6months later 3g might as well be 1x...and data and cell servace has been all over the place in and out WTF is goin on?? And im not the only person who has notices this where i live cuz i thought it could of been my phone but many people say the same thing i live in MD BTW.. then i get my VZW plan on unlimited data now there telling me over 2gig im getting throttled GTFO unlimited data like i signed up for should be unlimited... then customer service tells u one day that if u upgrade u get a month off the main line for free and call back when u do so. so after we upgrade i call back and then they tell me there is nothing wrote on my account but she will put it in and i should get a email in a week... 3 weeks later i get a email they cant give it to me and now i cant take the phone back cuz im past the deadline now im stuck in my contract VZW can go to hell!! then all u people do is blow them all day and tell them how great they are whats wrong with u guys... END RANT!!
22. MorePhonesThanNeeded posted on 31 Oct 2011, 23:03 2
You're quite the greedy individual aren't you? Unlimited means unlimited, but not unlimited speed, no where on your contract does it say that. You people like to create your own definitions whenever you feel like it.
That line about customer service sounds like you made that one up. Calls are monitored and there is no way they would offer you an upgrade when you just came there 6 months prior...you lie like a rug.
I have been with VZW for 5+ years, that thing about customer service telling you that you can upgrade so soon is utter trash, you're not even a preferred customer nor loyal. You had to have made that one up. You being a cell customer for over 3 years should know that you don't get discounts like that so you must have been taken by an unscrupulous sales rep because that is quite impossible to get any discount so early in your 2 year contract. Who is the ill-informed customer here? Then you come on here and rant about your own idiocy? Need I say more?
27. KParks23 posted on 01 Nov 2011, 03:21 1
if u took the time to read my comment instead of goin off on ur own rant u would see the words.... "OFF MY MAIN LINE" and the word "WE" right after implying that i have more than one phone line.. if u would like the whole story instead of coming in hear saying ppl "lie like a rug" i joined my sisters and brother in law's plan and we made my line the main cuz i opted to pay the bill because i get a monthly discount from work and there upgrade dates carried over and they were 5 months past a upgrade date so im assuming VZW wanted to lock us in for 2 more years.. and they have had VZW for quite some time and actually talked me into it..
And yes i do believe the unlimited thing is BS when i made my contract it was unlimited data and at that time they were not throttling so to come in at a latter time in the contract and be like well its still unlimited.. but slow it down to where it nearly does not work is pretty underhanded
and also i am pretty greedy when the service i was gettin with sprint at HALF the price was just as good if not a lil better IN MY AREA like i said VZW was great when i first got it but not now..
but if u want to get on and say VZW is a great company doin good things then by all means do so but that does not give u the right to call other people sharing there experience idiots and what they say utter trash and lies..
40. MorePhonesThanNeeded posted on 01 Nov 2011, 13:56 1
Talk about ranting, first off they were eligible for the upgrade you were not you just got added to the line. You haven't paid your dues yet so they wouldn't offer you any discounted anything. It was dumb to make a new addition the main line(can you even do such a thing) why would you do something like that anyway?
Next thing is Verizon states in it contract that you will get throttled if you by yourself go over the 2GB limit, considering they are running a business and have to pay for bandwidth, they don't need a bunch of greedy people who just want to use up all the bandwidth and therefore starve others. It's fair to throttle you, Cable companies don't they slam you with permanent speed decreases, so just be happy you only get throttled. You said it yourself that you were greedy, unlimited doesn't mean unlimited speed, just you have unlimited access to data transport.
You were getting the same service at half the price at sprint? Why did you leave then? Let me guess, signal wasn't strong enough?
Now your story makes a little more sense, I apologize for the first reply. Now to dig in and tear this one apart :). What discount are you receiving from VZW through your job? If it was such a discount, then why would it apply to your inlaws when you are the new line being added? Thing about discounts they only apply to a specific line, did you ask enough questions? Always, always ask questions, like I said uninformed. Your inlaw should have known better, I have not been burned by these guys because I always check and double check. Lesson learned, now you should be more upset with your inlaw than Verizon, they do give you everything in writing. when they do wrong I do not hesitate to jump on them about it.
54. KParks23 posted on 02 Nov 2011, 16:08 1
it does not matter who was eligible for the upgrade u can swap ur upgrade between phones anyway and im the account manager so i have the say on what goes on in the account. as a matter of fact i called VZW last night after reading ur post and talked to a supervisor and got my 130$ off my main line after some words being thrown around..
and no my fios does not get throttled at all so that ends that one..
yes my sprint service was a little weak at work but it was better than what im recieving with VZW i get good service with both at my house.
i get a 15% discount of my line like i said thats another reason im the main line cuz my bill is more every month even tho we split it 3 ways.. End of story bro.. VZW suck overpriced garbage!
6. cj100570 posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:17 2
Sprint has been doing a good job of making who behave? It sure hasn't been Verizon or AT&T. In the last year both have increased the prices on their premium phones, both have instituted data caps, both have killed off unlimited data plans, both have instituted throttling.... That looks like business as usual to me. Sprint isn't even in their thoughts. Well, maybe they're in AT&T's thoughts since they're trying to ruin the AT&T-Mobile marriage.
8. DigitalMD posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:34 0
Of course none of this is really going to matter unless the cell carriers stop ripping off the consumers and offer a reasonable, affordable data plan. What good is LTE if it just burns a hole in your wallet faster. Your shiny new phone becomes a shiny new paperweight. Load it up with old ripped movies because you won't be able to afford to download them.
10. richardyarrell2011 (banned) posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:40 0
Sprint s**ts all over at&t as well as verizon and tmobile especially there android profolio of devices. But regardless I will be getting this android power house device on Verizon gladly on day one launch..
11. JayLeBlanc posted on 31 Oct 2011, 21:45 4
November 24th is Thanksgiving... No way any phone is launching that day...
17. rockstarlive posted on 31 Oct 2011, 22:11 0
pretty much, that was my prediction.
I know Best Buy is stocking up their mobile staff BIG TIME, probably opening up around 5 a.m. for black friday.
25. bossmt_2 posted on 01 Nov 2011, 01:12 1
Yeah I don't think it will go on sale on the 24th, cause Verizon Stores are closed (though it wouldn't shock me with their greed if they opened up then) I would say day before would be much more likely. Gets Verizon a big shopping day before the biggest shopping weekend of the year.
30. ayephoner posted on 01 Nov 2011, 07:38 0
how does 11/24 even get reported? that makes zero sense. 11/25 or that weekend also makes no sense. those are huge shopping days already, no need for verizon to lure shoppers in.
35. roldefol posted on 01 Nov 2011, 10:27 0
Keep in mind that date was reported by a UK publication. They don't think about things like Thanksgiving. Maybe it'll release here the 17th after all. How much sense does it make to launch a Korean-American product in England?
15. Sniggly posted on 31 Oct 2011, 22:02 0
Ten days. And it'll probably start out cheaper at Best Buy. I'm very excited to handle this phone. :)
16. shugaman posted on 31 Oct 2011, 22:08 4
Alan F......FAIL..... my wife works for VZW, they are CLOSED on the 24th. Who allowed you to post such garbage on PA? Seriously? You should both be fired!
18. rockstarlive posted on 31 Oct 2011, 22:14 0
I plan on getting the NExus phone but not unitl Jan or just wait miserably unitl my upgrade.
OR I was thinking I might try getting HTC Sensation XE GSM version unlocked.
19. Mr.Mr.Upgrade posted on 31 Oct 2011, 22:24 2
Sounds like a a lot of broke, stay at home with your parents people are on here, LOL you pay for the best, I guess Honda is better then a BMW LOL
21. remixfa posted on 31 Oct 2011, 22:47 1
well damn? late november?
and if they get any kind of exclusivity AT ALL thats pretty much pushing everyone into early december somewhere.. talk about a christmas rush.
All that does is makes it easier for me to wait until Q1 to see if samsung pushes out that Galaxy HD (galaxy nexus with exynos and 8mpx instead of omap and 5mpx). I coulda squeezed out the money in early to mid november for the device, but in december, that money is already spent! lol
28. bossmt_2 posted on 01 Nov 2011, 05:25 0
BTW Verizon has done big launch days in the past. Launching several phones in the same day. To me launching the Rezound, RAZR and PRIME all at once is pretty smart. I mean it's the holiday season so you're not gonna generate a ton more buzz on the phones. On that note launching the week before Thanksgiving has happened on some big Verizon devices, the Voyager launched the day before thanksgiving, the Storm launched the week before black friday on the dot.
Either way I can see it being released, either launching all 3 at once to create a huge pre-black friday droid-gasm or separating the 3 to delay gratification.
29. Lionheartcahc posted on 01 Nov 2011, 07:11 1
so what he is saying is that verizon is pi$$ed that they couldn't bog down the nexus with bloatware so now they are pouting like a child that didn't get their way because of it?? while i don't doubt it at all it does seem kinda suspect if it is delayed it is not a bloatware issue.first, if you weren't happy with the fact you couldn't do what you wanted with the phone..DON'T SELL THE PHONE!! so i don't think this is true and if it is then samsung should be on verizons a$$ saying get the phone out!, it is simple really, they don't want to give a date so people can run out and buy the razr/rezound and then they apparently think that everyone will just add a line or pay the $700 for the phone off contract for the nexus when it launches since it is likely to be the better phone (not trying to start a argument just stating my opinion!! lol). and that is WRONG!! verizon is losing ZERO sales if they launch all three of these phones on the same date,do it and let the customer chose what phone to buy. the people that are waiting for the nexus will buy it,the motorola fans will buy the razr and the htc fans will buy the rezound,and if you are tossed up on your choice..the best phone in your opinion wins..period!
you are not going to pull away a person from buying the nexus if you release the razr and don't give a date for the nexus,if you want the nexus (to quote the man Larry David) THEN YOU WAIT...YOU WAIT! if you don't think your phone can hang with the nexus...MAKE A BETTER PHONE!! don't use a launch strategy to fool people into buying it then SURPRISE!! here is a better phone two weeks later.
honestly..how many people would have bought the bionic(which is a decent phone) if they knew the razr was coming the 10th since it is basically a thinner,faster bionic??
my biggest problem is why is it that apple says here is the date the iphone is coming out..DONE! and every other company has to bow before verizon and have the dates hidden and pushed from here to there because they can. samsung should have said "do you want the nexus?? if so here is the release date here is the terms.and that is it!! agree to it or pass".then if verizon has other phones launching close to that date then it is best phone wins. i seriously doubt that verizon is going to hold back the launch of possibly the best phone to come out this year and even into early next causing themselves possible sales due to a bloatware issue,it is all just a money issue,they feel they can get more doing it this way but they are wrong,in this economy not many people will ad a line or buy a $700 off contract to have a new phone,they will swallow the lump and be angry .sorry for the rant but i've been waiting to upgrade since February and it was a delayed thunderbolt,a WAYYYY delayed bionic,a scrapped galaxy s2 and now games with the nexus.i have been doing research for months trying to pick the right phone since i will be stuck with it for two years now and it is coming down to the nexus for me.
33. AngryGhost posted on 01 Nov 2011, 09:53 2
Is anyone else getting tired of Verizon jerking us around? First they pass on the Galaxy S2. Then they make us wait in the dark about the Galaxy Nexus amidst rumors that they won't release it. And now this?! There's a 100% chance this phone won't launch on 11/24 and just as likely a chance that it'll get pushed back until December or Q1 2012. I've been waiting to upgrade since February and since the phones they've launched in that time period have been garbage, I was finally starting to get excited for this device. Now Verizon has basically told us to go F ourselves because they want to push the RAZR. What about what your customers want??!
I tried creating a forum account on their website to post my disgust with the way they do business but naturally was thwarted at every turn. So I sent them an email instead. I think everyone here who is equally as annoyed as I am should do the same. This is unacceptable!
36. roldefol posted on 01 Nov 2011, 10:33 1
And I'm sure Verizon will be crying all the way to the bank on Razr launch day.
37. kpfirefighter posted on 01 Nov 2011, 11:29 0
It shouldn't be a surprise that verizon is doing this! They are BIG RED! and then there is everyone else. If their service and coverage wasnt as good as it is people would bail! It's funny how people complain about the price of these phones coming out. Wake up people it's going to keep getting worse. It's like the price of gas!! we will never see below $3 again. And when we see $3 we will be excited and say thats cheap! Thats how politics work and its everywhere! People want to hold out for the Galaxy Note!! great idea can you imagine what the price tag will be on that! Enjoy the $299 and $399 price tags because it only going up!! The NOTE is awesome but lets get real, its a status thing! and you complain about not being able to afford the other phones. My guess $499 minimum! for the note! and if you want the little pen thing tack on another $100
38. roldefol posted on 01 Nov 2011, 11:40 1
People also need to realize the technology in our phones ain't getting cheaper. Yeah, I'm used to paying $30 for a new phone on contract after rebates and NE2 credits, but that was for a featurephone. If I'm buying a brand new smartphone with a dual core processor, 1 GB RAM, 16-32 GB storage and faster data than cable internet, I expect to pay $200-300. These new phones are essentially pocket computers.
43. bossmt_2 posted on 01 Nov 2011, 15:50 1
299 for LTE is to pay for the towers. Get used to paying for LTE just like you had to do with 3G when it first came out.
45. SoopaManLuv posted on 01 Nov 2011, 17:17 0
I'm a Verizon customer and been with them 4 going on 5yrs and I'd jus like 2 say yes they r pricey, yes they throttle my data but its still unlimited. Do I have a problem with any of this? Hell no. U get what u pay 4. If I want cheaper service, I end up wit s**t service. It's like do I expect 2 pay less for a Benz than I do a Kia? I mean really? And furthermore I'm all over tha Nexus. Wanted tha Rezound but those security issues and slow updates (see Thunderbolt) I'm jus not feeling it. As far as tha razr, it'll never b like tha original. There's nothing really "cutting edge" about it. Yes, they will sell tons on tha name alone but i'd rather b without bloatware than waiting so I can get rid of bloatware. Jus saying.
Sn: as we all should know these r all opinions at any rate and how feel is how feel jus like how someone else feels is how they feel. Besides that's y they make a verity of everything and there's more than one cell phone company. So get over it people
46. KingKurogiii posted on 01 Nov 2011, 17:22 0
Kias are actually pretty bitchin' now. i'm totally rollin' in a new Optima now.
47. SoopaManLuv posted on 01 Nov 2011, 17:36 0
Yeah, but r u really expecting 2 pay what u payed 4 that 4one a Benz? Those things r rated 4 a million miles and ur Kia 4 how long? Sn: I had an uncle pull over 800000 b4 his died so yeah it is possible and he treated his like a 79 pinto.
48. KingKurogiii posted on 01 Nov 2011, 17:57 0
i never tried comparing it to your Benz. i'm just saying Kia makes pretty nice cars now. (:
55. pinkmamba posted on 15 Nov 2011, 09:39 0
Verizon is a business and makes logical decision that help its operations and profit even if they are not 100% to the benefit or comfort of its customers.
The staggering time between the release of top new phones make a lot of sense- First it alleviates the huge on-slot of new customers that will flood the Verizon stores, online help and engineering staff- it spreads the rush over 6 weeks rather than one or two. This is not a preference for Verizon it’s a necessity! Secondly they do not want to deal with a fickle clients (you and I ) that will test one phone this week and trade it in for another the next week and yet another the week after that. this churn is a huge loss for the company.
It is also a fair practice for the manufacturers that get a chance to highlight their product without a competing phone. Every phone maker gets its day in the sun. Verizon gets to advertise that phone alone
and build a brand without the loss of focus that a multi release would create.- It is more effective and in the end of the day will sell more phones via other Telco's , It is just good business.
The best advice I have for you is wait till all the new top phones are out and even more wait till all the reviews are in , then go the Verizon store play with and compare and make an educated
measured choice. The staggering of the phone release is meant to help Verizon but in reality they are helping you make a better choice with better service..