HTC exec talks about the Galaxy S5, says 8 million people watched the One M8 being announced
Last week, Samsung allegedly presented (internally) some of the reasons why the Galaxy S5 was better than the HTC One M8 - including the smartphone’s water resistance, and its 16MP rear camera among the reasons.
Talking to BGR today, HTC America President Jason Mackenzie said that the alleged Samsung comparison is “another sign that this is not just a Samsung/Apple world.” Referring to the new One M8, Mackenzie said that it’s a product that Samsung “should be concerned about.”
HTC Advantage program, and the duo rear camera, which “lets average users take photos that are professional quality.”
Of course, customers will have to decide for themselves if the One M8 is better than the S5, or vice-versa. Our own Samsung Galaxy S5 vs. HTC One M8 comparison should help with that.
Besides talking about Samsung, Jason Mackenzie also re-confirmed that initial One M8 sales are satisfactory: “Our first week of sales with one operator - with Verizon - was significantly better than the first week last year across multiple operators.”
Interestingly, Mackenzie said that more than 8 million people visited HTC’s website to watch the live announcement of the new One last month. Unfortunately for HTC, not everyone who watched the live streaming will be buying the handset.
Mackenzie ended by saying that HTC’s “objective is not to sell the most phones, but to build the best phones and build a strong, loyal base.” Well, as long as that helps them having better financial results than until now, we wish them luck.
4. Doakie (Posts: 1267; Member since: 06 May 2009)
:-/ I would buy one if the rear camera was an 8 Ultrapixel. I took my M7 to Hawaii and took 3,000 pictures and you can't zoom in on any of them to see stuff close up. I was highly disappointed.
8. greyhulk (Posts: 120; Member since: 30 Jun 2010)
No offense, but if I was going to Hawaii on vacation, I would take my DSLR. It wouldn't matter what smartphone I had or how good the camera was, I would absolutely go for the best photos I could get.
In day-to-day life, my M8 takes perfectly acceptable pictures. I don't zoom/crop much. If I was going to an event or location, though, I'd take my DSLR.
62. surethom (Posts: 283; Member since: 04 Mar 2009)
Why are you mentioning a DSLR, if we are going on holiday or special occation most people would use a Proper camera, but for days out & everyday use a Camera focused phone, is the ideal device to use, & staying with last years camera was a mistake.
63. CellularNinja (Posts: 303; Member since: 27 Sep 2011)
I completely agree. The m8s camera is the source of disappointment for the PA editors, and I can understand why, but for day to day use the picture are nice, and the focus affects are cool and easy to use.
65. trustory (Posts: 110; Member since: 23 Jan 2013)
No offense but he probably doesn't have one. (isn't it obvious?)
66. hamza14860 (Posts: 20; Member since: 30 Sep 2013)
Correctly said HTC m8 camera is for daily life usage .it's not a professional camera . however the htc m8 takes really good photos
30. geordie8t1 (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Feb 2014)
why go to such a fancy place and only rely on a sub standard mobile phone camera, ok the pics may be not bad quality but really, even a novice camera user with a dslr can take better pics then ANY mobile phone can do, i travel a lot and having used mobile photography a lot, you can just see the lack of any real detail and quality in a mobile shot, your next investment should be at the very least a decent mirrorless or beginners dslr.
43. papss (unregistered)
I agree for the most part.. I thing the 1020 being the exception as you can zoom and there is lots of detail.
11. sipha (Posts: 289; Member since: 12 May 2012)
Oh, how i wish that was true.. It would make my decision so much easier, cause its certainly the "best" looking!!
2. papss (unregistered)
Love the M8 hardware. It's freaking sexy
39. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 987; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Do not confuse the buid quality with the cheap, sealed aluminum (that is chock-full mess inside)
45. papss (unregistered)
I don't care what's inside man.. I trade/buy/sell phones way too much to keep the m8 for more than a few months. Its my second driver next to my L1520 and honestly its a great phone (M8), and better than mostly any phone on the market
3. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)
You know you can keep saying it's not about selling the most phone but ultimately it all comes down to profit and to make make profit you have to sell a ton of devices. If you keep on losing money eventually you will burn out and also increase sales mean more profit meaning you can make a even better phone next time.
9. papss (unregistered)
I agree but as you know the best phone isn't always the sales leader. I'm sure there are many reasons for great sales but SS got in with the right phone at the right time and now they are a force regardless of how great the phone is
38. jdoee100 (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
But the best phone is the sales leader. Only a small number of HTC, Sony, Moto fans think otherwise, who think that they know better than most people.
40. The-Sailor-Man (Posts: 987; Member since: 25 Mar 2014)
Those "small number of HTC, Sony, Moto fans" are actually, mostly ifans, that pretend to be so, on the comment sections and the polls. To fight with the Enemy-Samsung.
M8 is far, far, far from the best, though. And not only because of the camera.
47. papss (unregistered)
Again "best" is subjective depending on your wants and needs.
46. papss (unregistered)
Says you.. My opinion differs than yours because I don't think SS makes the best phones nor iPhone even though they sell more.
54. VZWuser76 (Posts: 1578; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)
A lot of people also think Mikey Cyrus and Justin Bieber are great singers.
64. jdoee100 (Posts: 305; Member since: 04 Jun 2013)
At least M. Cyrus and J. Bieber have more fans than HTC. HTC can use some help from Cyrus and Bieber.
12. Doakie (Posts: 1267; Member since: 06 May 2009)
I think HTC needs to take out a huge loan so they can afford to market the hell out of the M8. Then maybe people may actually buy it once they know the name. Also this whole Verizon retail store exclusivity is stupid too. I wanted to go to the AT&T(my carrier) store and see the M8 in person but nope, online only. Only the fanatics about this phone will buy it without being able to hold it first. Which means all their lead time on the Galaxy S5 is pointless.
32. Slammer (Posts: 1061; Member since: 03 Jun 2010)
---"Then maybe people may actually buy it once they know the name."---
It's not all about how much the name is presented, but how it's presented.
We can't forget about the thousands upon thousands that left HTC because of eliminating key offerings in its handsets. Rather than appeasing the pleas of its diehard customers, it decided to oppose the requests. Many of us stayed with HTC even when the iphone was easily at reach. HTC decided to follow Apple. We spoke with our feet and bypassed both companies for manufacturers that met our needs. It is going to take more than just a pretty face or marketing to lure us back in. We want results to prove they want us. Reinstating expandable memory is a start. Give us back removable batteries. There is absolutely no reason why a solid design such as the ONE can't implement the feature. Absolutely none.
5. smallworld (Posts: 438; Member since: 13 Jul 2012)
Not even 1 million people watched the M8 introduction video on Youtube...
50. tiara6918 (Posts: 1438; Member since: 26 Apr 2012)
the first official recorded video was on the htc website not on youtube
20. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8582; Member since: 14 May 2012)
S5 fits my lifestyle a lot more than the One does because of the 16MP camera and the OFFICIAL (not a YouTube demo) IP67 rating.
7. Commentator (Posts: 2433; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)
"8 million people watched the One M8 being announced"
...7.5 million of who were Samsung and Sony fans waiting to pounce, if PA comments from that day are anything to go by...
55. Wiki_jaan (Posts: 703; Member since: 24 Jun 2012)
8 million watched but only 2 million going to buy
fewer watched s5 announcement 40+ million going to buy it
10. maherk (Posts: 1027; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
seriously? he claims the camera on the One is better than that on the S5?
and what does he mean by the "average" customer? he made it sound like the clueless customers. I love the new One, hands down the best looking phone, with the best build quality and top notch speakers, but those three doesn't define what a best phone is all about. I won't mention sales numbers, but the depreciation value of the product says the most about how great it is. It has been a week since the M8 went on sale, you can find it on Craigslist for 550, LG flex for 450-500, while the 7 months old Note 3 is still selling for an average of 500 if used and 600 if new.
16. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8582; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Some guy offered me $625 for my Note 3 and I paid $320 for it lol.
22. maherk (Posts: 1027; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
I had my wife's G2 on Craigslist for 1 month, asked $315 with box and accessories, mint condition with tempered glass installed, 2 covers and 1 bumper. Had 1 text the next day I posted for 250 which I didn't take, sold after a week for 280 to my friend, and I was too lazy to take the ad off, still I didn't receive any call or text other than the $250 guy. And this happened 2 months ago! My international note 2 which doesn't support lte was sold for 330 on day one.
19. maherk (Posts: 1027; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
btw I think one of the weakest points in marketing the new one is that they kept it as the HTC One with a tiny m8 next to it. The "average" consumer wouldn't know what the m8 stands for. For example, last year HTC had the HTC One running on the led screens found on soccer fields in Europe, this year they kept the exact same ad with only the small m8 added next to it, they don't say the all new htc one, not even show a picture of it. And that horrible bla bla bla ad, they don't mention any single thing about the phone and tell you to google it instead, without even bothering showing the beauty of the phone.
13. wilsong17 (Posts: 958; Member since: 10 Mar 2013)
He sounds so desperate ask the people in the street an see how many know about the m8.. none gs many at the end of the day gs5> m8
14. jellmoo (Posts: 690; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
8 million people? That's quite a few people. That might explain why my new invention, a device that measures disappointment, damn near exploded during the unveiling.
17. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8582; Member since: 14 May 2012)
8 million people that were disappointed like I was.
18. jellmoo (Posts: 690; Member since: 31 Oct 2011)
To be fair, I counted, and it was only like 7 543 872 people that were disappointed.
The others weren't paying very close attention.
21. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8582; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Did you see how many Galaxies, iPhones and other phones there were at the live announcement? I heard the infamous Samsung and Apple whistle notification go off a few times during the announcement lol.
36. true1984 (Posts: 592; Member since: 23 May 2012)
i actually wasnt, and i ended up buying the phone
23. avasponge (Posts: 40; Member since: 03 May 2012)
The HTC One is a great phone and the S5 is a great phone too but the S5 will still sell more. Just saying the truth. The build quality and boomsound speakers are the two things I really like on the HTC One and the camera and water resistance are amazing on the S5. Combine them together. That would be nice
25. Killua (Posts: 270; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
If build quality, boomsound (stereo speaker), camera and water resistant phone are what you need, then Z2 is perfect for you.
26. PapaSmurf (Posts: 8582; Member since: 14 May 2012)
Where available, if you want a phone the size of a Note 3 but sports a 5.2" display and if you like Sony's [ugly] UI...
35. true1984 (Posts: 592; Member since: 23 May 2012)
to be fair, on the z and z2 tablets the ui is great. on the phone? not so much...
42. Killua (Posts: 270; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
Well, Z & Z2 tablet not really interesting though for me though. It's basically just an oversized phone, since it can't really used to do multiscreen multitasking like what samsung pro or note series do.
41. Killua (Posts: 270; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
In case you didn't notice, he didn't talk for UI or the device size. I merely spoke for what he wants.
28. maherk (Posts: 1027; Member since: 10 Feb 2012)
what build quality are you talking about? The Z had the self destruction feature which bends your phone or cracks your screen, and they did nothing to fix it with the Z1, Z1s and neither the all new Z1 compact. Untill the Z2 is used for a month by those who will buy it and show us that this issue is something from the past, you can't mention build quality as a plus for Sony when comparing it to HTC and Samsung.
44. Killua (Posts: 270; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
Material-wise, it's made of aluminum & glass, so the material is one of the so called premium thingy people love. On the other, not sure who got their devices bends or cracks, but my uncle's and my friends Z & Z1 are still straight, their devices haven't swayed to any direction so far.
24. Killua (Posts: 270; Member since: 25 Nov 2013)
Whatever McKenzie, whatever. We know you're lying though.
27. phljcnth (Posts: 269; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)
They're entering the first stage
29. GreekGeek (Posts: 841; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
“objective is not to sell the most phones''
----uhm, isn't your ultimate goal is to make money?
no wonder you're in the brink of bankruptcy
31. GreekGeek (Posts: 841; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
this guy is delusional, hang in there Jack....hold on lmao
33. true1984 (Posts: 592; Member since: 23 May 2012)
and 4 million were disappointed and decided to get the gs5
34. geordie8t1 (Posts: 112; Member since: 18 Feb 2014)
what does viewing numbers mean in actual sales though, NOTHING i bet, I watch most presentations of new flagships even including apple, but I would never by their product, most of the other companies i will consider if they are up to my standard, and i was not a fan of the M7 because of its various issues, this year though i did think about it until that damn camera module popped up again 4UP sucks, its not all about numbers but that camera is not so good.....
37. GreekGeek (Posts: 841; Member since: 22 Mar 2014)
HTC's marketing team are the lousiest of the top-tier bunch
You, see a dark, gloomy, depressing ad starring a (cough) Character Actor who often plays villains and anti-heroes in movies......would you rush out to buy an M8?
I guess they still haven't recouped their losses with the Robert Downey Jr deal
52. KillerKeyboard (Posts: 307; Member since: 21 Nov 2013)
Yep. Down and Old. Both are great actors, though.
48. Totse2k15 (Posts: 272; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)
Both of these smartphones are great, but I'd rather have a Z2 instead (To each, their own, of course).
49. newbey123 (Posts: 430; Member since: 19 Mar 2012)
The sammy, Z2 and M8 are all killer phones. For me the M8 is the best all around phone available right now. Good job HTC.
51. Taters (Posts: 3233; Member since: 28 Jan 2013)
Lol they are seriously using that useless duo camera as a reason to buy this over the GS5? Lol.
They should choose something else.