Google Glass ban on drivers sought by West Virginia lawmaker
extension" of this and if his bill doesn't become law, he at hopes it leads to bills filed by other legislatures. Howell's proposed bill would add head-mounted displays to cellphones and other electronic devices that are currently prohibited from use while driving in the state.
Last month, a small bar in Seattle made national headlines. The 5 Points Cafe, located near Amazon and apparently a hangout for Amazon employees, banned Google Glass for privacy reasons saying that Glass wearers can snap pictures and take video of bar patrons without their permission.
Howell's proposed bill is H.B. 3057 and can be viewed in its entirety by clicking on the sourcelink. But not while you're driving.
source: WestVirginiaLegislature via TechCrunch
1. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I think that I agree with that ban.
3. Gdrye (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)
you would have to tell me the difference between this and an on screen navigation that are in newer cars (navigation actually shows on the glass of the car) and also hands free texting which is what this will also be..the law needs to be consistant.
9. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
1. Differently from windshield projection, Google Glass will directly distract and limit drivers peripheral vision which is very important when driving.
2. Differently from Google Glass windshield projection provides information only strictly related with driving, that's mean there is no specific visual information which could distract or in any other way affect drivers atention.
19. Gdrye (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)
1. blueblockers that old people wear are far more distracting on the blind spot than these will ever be. if your talking about the physical look of these things.
2. "drive mode" well known through out the cell industry, i believe these can do the same. sure speak your station you want to listen to, and look at your turn by turn directions in front of you, two things you can presently do as of right now. but turning off all the other updates that will distract you, but even an incoming call answered hands free can be done now...i see your point, but i see ways around that. which i figure someone at google thought of
27. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
1. I agree that BluBlocker sunglasses may worsen your vision, but it is not the same as Google Glass! Remember that peripheral vision is very sensitive for a light and even more sensitive when around is low light conditions and it is actually a problem because Google Glass are emitting light directly into your eye's peripheral vision!
2. And who will control that you'r using "Drive Mode" while driving? Noone! But distraction by information content is only one problem, as i have mentioned before, there is much bigger problem with physical distraction.
28. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I will tell you one trick from army! ;)
If you are trying to see something at night in the dark places try this trick: Close your eyes for a minute or few then open your eyes and try to look around but try to concentrate more on periferal view than to central view. It works!
4. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I find that there is no point in
1. Banning a product that is yet to go out
2. Banning a product witch has a mechanism that we have yet to examine and see how intrusive it could be to the driver.
3. Banning a whole product instead of the distractive feature
This could simply be the same as charging someone money for using his phone as a GPS while driving, if there is a feature.
Google glass augment reality could help users
get in the correct lane for an exit when driving
Translate street sings into information
Keep the driver alert about his speed
Warn a user that is getting too close to another car
10. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
1. I agree, it looks a bit strange.
2. I agree with that, it also looks a bit strange.
3. There is no need to talk about any features because Google Glass are based on peripheral vision and that's mean it is already distracting.
16. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
People who have used said is comfortable and not so distracting, anyways will have to see how the final product turn out in order to have a final word about this
21. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
You think? people wearing/using Google Glass whilst driving is very dangerous and can easily cause fatal accidents!
47. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1376; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
agree , most humans are not capable of multitasking ,people who use these things are usually brilliant minds who can pay attention , but when it comes to the general public , the mentality changes , there are lots of cases where people drove their cars into the sea just by following the Sat-nav , so they should make the google glass have some car mode where it stops working or it syncs with the car so you won't miss any calls
26. tedkord (Posts: 5138; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
I don't disagree with the ban, but make no mistake about it - this is about generating revenue. This politician has no concern about safety, he's seeing dollar signs.
Same reason talking on a cellphone is ticketable. Its not unsafe, it's a common behavior they can monetize.
45. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
Dude, its obviously not about safety, how can a senator who is not in possession of a final unit decide out of what he sees on a demo video? There are no details regarding the fact that Google could have already taking precautions for drivers? So are they going to make me pay if I use Google glass to drive to my destination?
49. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
How about you use a GPS? Something this is less distracting, more safer for drivers? i don't think you understand that this is a safety hazard that can easily distract you from the road, much more than a GPS.
62. protozeloz (Posts: 5379; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I think you don't get it, is not about the ban or not, is about the timing, why not wait for the final product? Or have you already tested it? You are so aware of it's possible threat
2. MartianMe (unregistered)
There's something really fishy going on with all of these bans against google glass...
6. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
Yeah...it's called "appleopolis". They are trying to buy their way through the courts and have now resorted to buying law makers. If the iWatch doesn't get banned there we'll know why lol.
22. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
It's called common sense and safety, Apple isn't sectretly tipping off lawyers and politicians to ban Google Glass, that would be criminal. They are banning it for safety and privacy issues which do all make sense.
32. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6694; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
don't make me laugh. PEOPLE TALK & TEXT while their driving having a phone in their ear.
34. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Yes, I know, they also have no common sense. Lets Ban texting and driving too. Having a thing in your face whilst driving is dangerous. Everyone is a butthurt idiot here blaming Apple for their woes. Dislike me to hell, I don't care, I stand by my opinion.
37. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1025; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)
yeah well just because people do it doesn't mean it's right. one of the biggest cause of accidents on roads are talk and text driving. people get fined for it so it's not even legal and just because everyone is being stupid and putting their lifes at risks doesnt mean your going too copy them aswell. This isn't just a quick glance at your phone, this is a a screen infront of your eyes at all times which will ruin your concetration and increase your risk of accident and deaths of others. so stop saying "apple did that" and "apple did this", so suck it up, apple has nothing to do with this, this is for the safety of others on the road and yourself
36. tedkord (Posts: 5138; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
They are banning it to create new fines to bring in more revenue. Period.
52. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1376; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
lets say a family member or your cat was run over by a lemming with a google glass , then you won't be saying that , there are things that need to be kept away for a certain time ,your hangout can wait .life worth more than some $1500 gadget
69. tedkord (Posts: 5138; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
Better ban radios in cars. Do you know how distracting it is to change channels.
Better ban passengers. Those little buggers like to talk. That's a distraction.
Anyway, my point is that the ban is about money, not about safety. That is the only possible reason for banning a product that is years and revisions away from release.
If is really about safety, don't make it a fine. Make it a day or two in jail. That would deter more people than a fine.
70. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Apparently the Glass is set for a more broader release at the end of this year, maybe even early next year. But yes, i agree there is a money factor! But IT IS a safety concern. Capitalism, if you are going to do something, better make some $$$ out of it.
11. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
I agree, it looks a bit strange, too much attention from various judicial and similar instances for a product which is even not released yet.
20. Gdrye (Posts: 109; Member since: 02 Jan 2012)
dont blame apple, i hate hearing "its apples fault" on every post, leave them out of this and lets talk about the product...this is something that could have came out in year 2050, there is a lot of caution and i understand this..if these take off like the smart phone we are entering a whole new world.
24. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Finally someone who makes sense and doesn't have to bash Apple stupidly for every little single thing that happens, even though Apple has nothing to do with it and is far from it. I think people use Apple as an excuse (sometimes) to release butthurt and frustration on.
48. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1376; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
people who seek to ban these are afraid of the big brother type senario this will cause , or they read "1984" too much
5. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
What's next...ban passengers? They're a lot more distracting whereas GoogleGlass is centered around the idea of you looking forward, and controls are gesture and voice based. This ban will not be in place for long, unless they are going to ban all vehicles that use navigation devices (ones that take your eyes off the road).
7. lyndon420 (Posts: 1782; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)
I'd be ok if they banned kids from vehicles. Distracting little heathen's.
8. 3SM.. (unregistered)
And sadly I currently live in West Virginia.
12. Bernoulli (Posts: 1505; Member since: 01 Sep 2012)
It makes sense to a certain degree, if I'm driving through Houston's traffic the least thing I'd want to worry about is Facebook or twitter, although if there was a setting for traffic alerts then yeah sucks for virginians
13. shamataa (Posts: 202; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)
Why ban this when it isn't even out yet. At least for a while. It's still in process in looks and how it work or what it even does it does not make sense to me.
14. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
hmm. I don't see why it should be banned. It's hands free. And it's not like it projects information directly in front of you so. You have to want to look at it. You just can't keep a driver from getting distracted that way because there are an infinite number of things a driver can get distracted on. Changing the car radio, volume, looking at someone pick their nose, looking at the odometer, etc. Google glass is the equivalent to a very high tech blue tooth with visual capability.
If it were made illegal, how would the law be enforced? Looking at someone going 60 miles an hour, I would barely see any silver band by their eyebrows. Let's just ban glasses all together. It's ridiculous.
15. 3SM.. (unregistered)
Texting and use of cell phones are still a second offense in WV, so Google Glasses should fall in this category (not fully sure); so not a lot of people will get pulled over unless they're doing something in the first offense . And besides, it's West Virginia; we're poor as fu*k. I will unlikely see a West Virginian wearing Google Glass unless they won the Power Ball. Lol.
38. tedkord (Posts: 5138; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)
That's how it always starts. They will all be primary offenses before long. Seat belts were started as a secondary offense in my state (NJ) to help silence public outcry. Once it passed, they quickly moved to primary offense.
Why? Revenue. Don't be fooled for a second that is about public safety. It's about revenue.
64. sleepyjohnny (Posts: 151; Member since: 16 Dec 2009)
well that's only because you actually have the phone in hand, but this thing is on your head, like any pair of glasses. It's used by speaking to it. How's it so different from using services like OnStar?
23. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 6694; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
He's a irepublican idiot. how the hell u ban a product that's not even BEEN RELEASE YET nor have a price tag? and I'm sure he's being PAID somehow trying too ben a GREAT PRODUCT LIKE GLASS. And how is this a distraction. first of all its on ur face u don't use ur hands too text or dial just talk too it like u using a BLUE TOOTH head set. this guy is just plain damn dumb if u ask me
29. Mxyzptlk (Posts: 4064; Member since: 21 Apr 2012)
It's nothing like using a bluetooth headset
30. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
I am not a big fan of any distraction to drivers no matter what. It's not just one person's life at stake ... more often than not it's always more than one. Good if it is banned during driving. Released or not released doesn't make a difference. What needs to be restricted needs to be restricted.
40. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Now this guy knows what he is talking about, its a distraction and is prone to causing danger. Full stop!
31. Bozzor (Posts: 144; Member since: 02 May 2012)
I am involved in a start-up venture where we are experimenting with doing away with instrument clusters in the dashboard and having all driver relevant information and augmented reality displayed both onto the windshield and via glasses. Whilst there are some interesting and unexpected things occurring, the fact is that the ability to display relevant information directly into the driver's field of view whilst the driver is looking onto the wider world is a great contributor to road safety. However, the key issue boils down to WHAT information is displayed. A video conference call would be a horrendous distraction, but a sensor fusion of radar, IR and other data advising the driver of possible upcoming obstacles or changed road conditions - which would be visually impossible to confirm without these systems - would without question save lives on the road.
It is simply a matter of WHAT information is displayed.
35. PhoneArenaUser (Posts: 5497; Member since: 05 Aug 2011)
"It is simply a matter of WHAT information is displayed."
Agree, it is one of my points that I was trying to explain.
But what about physical distraction, for example you are driving at night ant trying to see all objects in the low light, that's mean your eyes are focusing for a low light conditions, but at the same time Google Glass are emitting light directly into your eye's peripheral vision, I think that would be a total mess...
41. Bozzor (Posts: 144; Member since: 02 May 2012)
The balance between what goes onto the glasses and what is augmented onto the screen is part of what is known as 'sensor display fusion'. You take into account all information that is available, define what is needed and then present it in an integrated way that reduces risks of distraction and increases complete situational awareness.
33. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
They shouldn't ban it, the Glass didn't even release yet. Poor West Virginia drivers..... :(
43. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
OH NO! Less drivers risking other people and their lives! How horrible!
46. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
But the Glass is safe, and can prevent accidents. Why? Because many drivers love to text while driving, with the Glass, you only need to say a command, you don't even need to touch it.
50. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Do you even know what Google Glass is?! It's something you wear that displays a screen in you FACE! That would be very distracting keeping your eyes off the road which can cause accidents, it also cuts out an area of your FOV.
51. RaKithAPeiRiZ (Posts: 1376; Member since: 29 Dec 2011)
well how many of the people can do that without losing distraction ? a Ninja or a college professor can but the general public is not so capable of multitasking , there have been many accidents just by sat nav or even using a bluetooth headset , and if you have a accident , the airbag will surely push all that gadgetry up your face
58. Timmehor (Posts: 599; Member since: 09 Mar 2013)
Lol, probably the Google Glass will hurt more then the car crash itself!
59. xperiaDROID (banned) (Posts: 5629; Member since: 08 Mar 2013)
Oh, I didn't even think about that, sorry about that. Silly me! :(
( I agree with you guys )
60. rusticguy (Posts: 2828; Member since: 11 Aug 2012)
Stanford researchers found that attention and memory suffer in those who juggle work, email, and web-surfing, compared to those who focus on one task at a time. Other studies suggest employees actually lose time when multitasking.