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Former CEO Eric Schmidt says Google will make sure that HTC doesn't lose its suit against Apple

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Former CEO Eric Schmidt says Google will make sure that HTC doesn't lose its suit against Apple
During a speech at the Google Mobile Revolution conference in Tokyo, Japan, executive chairman and former CEO of the Mountain View based company, Eric Schmidt, vowed to help HTC win its patent infringement suit against Steve Jobs and Co. The ITC recently decided that Taiwan based HTC is violating two Apple patents, a decision that threatens all Android models yet to be launched. Schmidt chided Apple, where he once had a seat on the board, for responding with lawsuits instead of innovation.

Although he didn't say Apple by name, Schmidt said, "We have seen an explosion of Android devices entering the market and, because of our successes, competitors are responding with lawsuits as they cannot respond through innovations. I'm not too worried about this." Besides Google, HTC also has criticized Apple recently for using lawsuits instead of fair competition in the market. Schmidt said that he feels confident that Google will get the ITC to overturn the initial ruling from an ITC judge that said HTC illegally used two patents held by Apple. The entire commission must review the judge's decision before it is final.

When all of the legal dust has settled, Apple could end up receiving a nice revenue stream from Android sales. The company could join Microsoft which already earns about $5 in revenue from each Android handset sold by HTC, thanks to royalties from patents owned by the company. Ironically, the software giant is said to make more money from the royalties it collects from each Android sale than the money it makes from shipping its own Windows Phone 7 OS. If the victory over HTC is upheld, it could pave the way for Apple to collect money from other Android manufacturers like Motorola and Samsung.

source: AppleInsider

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posted on 19 Jul 2011, 12:31 10

1. stealthd (unregistered)


Google comes up with some amazing products and services but sometimes it's a little hard to take them seriously (like when they bid $3.14 billion for the Nortel patents). At least they seem to be taking this seriously though. If Apple wins this, they have some pretty serious ammunition to wage against Android in general. I'm not a huge fan of Android myself, but I think the smartphone world would be at least a tad bit bleaker with just Windows Phone and iPhone out there (and I guess BlackBerry hasn't completely died yet)(and WebOS too).

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 21:01 2

66. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)


It's hard to take any company seriously when they release updates in the form of desserts.

posted on 20 Jul 2011, 15:39

86. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


or name their updates after big kitty cats... leaord, lion, mr. snuggles...

lol.

its hard to even take idiots seriously when they have homoerotic pictures of wrestlers as their profile photo.. lolol

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 12:32 8

2. davecann2 (Posts: 460; Member since: 15 Mar 2011)


To be honest this guy is a total tool and here is why...

He expects companies to not protect their intellectual properties and instead just come out with some other form of innovation.... Is it just me or is this just dumb?

I agree that innovation is a great idea but to tell the public that infringing on another’s ideas is ok is just ridiculous.

In addition... this guy is worried.... This is why they are coming with all guns a blaze!

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 19:08 5

52. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


apple blatantly copies google. Apple sues anyone who looks anything like their products. Like i said.. oh yesterday lol.. If you screw with android's partners long enough sooner or later you get the king of the pack. Looks like Google is finally getting tired of Apple's antics.. if its from complaining partners or a general dislike or whatever... Apple has gotten big G's attention.

Little Mac is making his way up the ladder to face Mike Tyson (aka Google). Better watch out mac, the champ has a killer right hook.
Maybe Mac should have stayed down in the ranks with Flamenco.. lol.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 20:18 4

62. Kris79 (unregistered)


Love to Punch-out metaphor, man! Flamenco ... lol!

The kraken awakes!

Google depends on manufacturers and I see Apple picking on the base of the food chain to weaken the android growth ... but at least Google is taking this seriously and putting a stop to these rediculous lawsuits.

posted on 09 Aug 2011, 11:19

93. William Carr (unregistered)


"Little Mac is making his way up the ladder to face Mike Tyson"

You realize Apple is more powerful than Google now, right ?

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 12:39 19

3. raul_fvr (Posts: 3; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


Allright, Apple invented and introduced to the market a revolutionary phone that led other companies to develop awesome OS, but now they are pissed because Android has more innovations. C'mon Steve... welcome to the jungle, lawsuits are your weapons ????

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 12:54 7

7. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@raul. There is a reason why patenting IP's exists. If you cannot come up with your own, then at least get licenced to use patented technologies. Don't just copy.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 13:28 7

17. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


Like Apple with Nokia and S3?

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 14:21 2

28. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


I need to add kodak to the list thank you

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 14:43 2

30. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@ngo2dd. You can add as many on your list as you want. Apple spends a lot on licensing fees, being a latecomer in the mobile phone business. They also got in trouble several times with patent infringement lawsuits. But, they have also come up with their own innovative IP's. So why can't they charge licensing fees for those, and why can't they sue anyone who infringes on their IP's?

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 19:10 3

54. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


unless you can show me where apple has a patent on the way an icon looks or is colored, then their whole shebang with Samsung is crap.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 22:24 2

67. dionddc (Posts: 129; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


@530gemini

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motorola_DynaTAC

Apple copied Motorola because Motorola made the first commercially available mobile phone. The iPhone can call as well - blatant copying.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 22:46

70. ngo2dd (Posts: 896; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)


but they did not get the license like you said, that is why they are being sue and they were copying. So your hero of a company is as bad as HTC as you said. So stop sucking one them.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 14:51 1

32. raul_fvr (Posts: 3; Member since: 05 Jul 2011)


well, that is correct, but all companies always "took" a little of other companies' technology, Besides Apple is giving lawsuits here and there lately..

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 14:12 1

26. messiah (Posts: 438; Member since: 19 Feb 2010)


It boils down to where and what.... Even if it i ultimately decided that Apple wins the lawsuit and has the ITC impose a import block on HT and or other android manufacturers, it can on do so for American soil. Ultimately only creati a single nation supporting apple. The other nations in turn to support their domestic designs, products, sales and customers desire to be able to have phones other than apple wi create their own trade embargo until said sanctions are lifted in the states. Good job apple, you just limited your sales to a single nation.... You will no longer be a global figure Google, and android on the other hand wil continue on the global platform. And Google i also planted in America.... Good luck removin Google from the playing field. Too bad apple can't play well with others

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 14:47

31. Apple Fanboy (unregistered)


If it's a jungle like you say...then anything goes

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 15:40 2

38. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Why do people keep saying that Android is innovative? All I'm seeing is bigger screens and better processors and 1. That's not being innovative and 2. That's from the manufacturers and is not Android. So what in the world have they created that makes them so creative and innovative? Please I would really like to know.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 15:42 1

39. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


exactly I don't get it either. I guess they have widgets and live wallpaper which was also not an innovation because it wasn't new.


They did popularize trojan horse apps that steal your data.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 20:26 2

64. Kris79 (unregistered)


Don't forget XDA. Innovation comes from the open source platform and from what I can tell apple has nothing on CM7, MUI, etc etc.

I was a windows mobile owner long before I joined the android community and I can say that I've seen a plethora of innovation on the android OS in the form of kernel/OS tweaks on any android device.

posted on 20 Jul 2011, 09:17 1

80. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


trojan horse apps? You do realize that the iphone jailbreak is a trojan horse right? A huge security flaw.

Can you name me some android trojan horse apps, taco? U seem to be making more baseless accusations without proof.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 16:20 1

42. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


don't know if you are referring to this but lets give it a try

-Sense
Turn your phone to silent it
revive calls on without leaving maps application and getting directions
phone rings louder on the pocket so you can hear it
access camera social network news among other features on the lock screen.

-TouchWiz
use gyroscope to zoom in and out and paining.
lock screen messages and missed notifications.

general in android

call a place without having the phone number based on your location.
speech recognition
push applications URLS and plain text to your phone from a computer
NFC payment system on the US

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 19:45

59. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


But come on protozeloz, those are just skins meant to spice things up. I'm looking for the real innovations that has Apple crying like a baby and not things like "phone rings louder in pocket so you can hear it".

With all the trolling and cries that all that innovation is done by Android, I would expect to see more outstanding features. It might sound like I'm trolling but whenever I read things like "but now they are pissed because Android has more innovations" I always ask myself WHAT INNOVATIONS?!?!?!? What has Apple so jealous that they have to sue everyone?

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 20:20 2

63. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Some things sound a bit different but they might be useful to someone you should also know Android fans just like any other fan over estimate their products and underestimate the competition. Now is apple giving lawsuit out of their lack of innovation? No they aren't but if they can hold competition down they simply will do so. Now you ask for a list of "things " that started first on Android powered device and I gave you some. And I bet my neck that if the iPhone would have something as dumb as flipping a phone to silence it would have the same reaction from the other side of the line on how innovative and awesome this is. They cry over retina for gods sake! Then fandroids counter attack with dual core or something... now if you go ask me "is there a interesting feature you would get an Android tablets instead of the iPad? " well there is one im looking into its USB hosting. I cary part of me on the cloud and the other part on mass storage devices. Thinking that I can toss my USB into my tab is really nice the fact that I could buy an USB control of my liking and use it to play is also nice when you think about it.


Now you said those are skins to spice things up yet many are done by simply using the kit on the Android system there are aps on the market that use those to do other things. Custom UI are a part of Android they are counted on the bad so why the tools and things they do can't be counted as part of Android?

Also there are other tools for Android that I think where done on then first but I wont talk about what I cannot backup

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 20:35

65. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


Forgive my lack of punctuation and some grammar mistakes :'( hope its readable

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 22:32 3

68. dionddc (Posts: 129; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)


@protozeloz

Don't forget the notification bar and the fact that Google's widgets are a revolutionary way of extracting data from the home screen on mobile devices. Especially when you can resize and interact with them.

The major jump Apple did was just the scrolling physics. I'm not sure if any other phone had this before Apple did, but that was definitely revolutionary.

The thing is, after that, they just can't innovate anymore. They specialise in the way humans interact with devices, but for devices interacting with humans, they struggle. And that's why Android is such a success.

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 22:54 1

71. protozeloz (Posts: 5396; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)


I don't think apple can't innovate otherwise they would have vaporized like rim. They have other interests. Now is Android in general giving apple a run for it's money? Can't complete agree yet but will know this year and next for sure but

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 19:00 3

50. ThE_SoSSi (unregistered)


you obv did not watch the google conference this past year then???.... apple created what a smartphone is and other companys have moved beyond that... now steve jobs is being a lil baby because he is trying to play catch up. also correct me if im wrong but wasnt samsung building their chips and doesnt LG make their screens. so apple obv has to gain help from other people just to catch up to what google is doing and i have had a iphone 1thru4... its been the same phone every year with a couple small things different and then make everyone pay hundreds of dollars... they finally change the look of the phone a lil bit in the 4 and then it had huge reception issues...so blah blah blah cult apple

posted on 19 Jul 2011, 19:33

58. E.N. (Posts: 2610; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Did Samsung design and engineer Apple's processors or are they just manufacturing it. If they are just manufacturing it, then that means nothing. That's like giving the construction workers the credit for building something that an architecture/engineer designed.

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