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Apple earnings handily beat the Street again thanks to massive iPhone 4S sales

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Apple earnings handily beat the Street again thanks to massive iPhone 4S sales
Apple just outed its earnings report for the last quarter of 2011, and the results are earnings of $13.87 per share versus the analysts' average estimates of $10.08 per share.

AAPL was up more than 8% at one time after the earnings

AAPL was up more than 8% at one time after the earnings

That's a huge beat after Apple missing the last time it reported, for the first time in many quarters. Now, thanks to massive iPhone 4S sales, we seem to be back to Cupertino beating analysts' expectations based on its own modest guidances, stock surging... wash, rinse, repeat.

Apple reported revenue of $46.3 billion and net profit out of it the astonishing $13.1 billion. In comparison, the same October-December quarter in 2010 it made "just" $6 billion, so it effectively more than doubled net profit just in a year's time. 

The fruit company sold 37.04 million iPhones in the quarter, beating even the most outrageous estimates there were, which spanned 25-36 million max. Apple also sold 15.43 million iPads, a 111 percent unit increase over the same quarter in 2010. At 15.4 million iPods sold, the company saw a 21 percent unit decline from the Q4 of 2010, and that could be easily predicted.

Apple achieved the record 44.7% profit margin, which was positively affected half by falling components prices, like RAM and NAND Flash, and half by the revenue being heavily skewed towards the most profitable item for Apple - the new iPhone 4S. $24.4 billion of the revenue came from sales of iPhones and accessories, which our quick calculations show to translate into roughly the cool $659 per iPhone sold

The iPhone 4S was the most popular iPhone during the quarter, said the CFO, which brought in this incredibly high ASP number. The only thing that held Apple from even higher margins were the higher hard drive prices due to the floods in Thailand.

That was Apple's first quarter without Steve Jobs at the helm, and the new captain of the space ship from Cupertino, Tim Cook, had the following to say:

We’re thrilled with our outstanding results and record-breaking sales of iPhones, iPads and Macs. Apple’s momentum is incredibly strong, and we have some amazing new products in the pipeline.

Peter Oppenheimer, Apple’s Chief Financial Officer, added: “We are very happy to have generated over $17.5 billion in cash flow from operations during the December quarter. Looking ahead to the second fiscal quarter of 2012, which will span 13 weeks, we expect revenue of about $32.5 billion and we expect diluted earnings per share of about $8.50”. These forward guidance numbers are also beating the analysts' expectations on which the whole earnings game is based. 

The demand in China has been "off the charts" said the CFO, despite the iPhone 4S halted in retail stores due to the kerfuffle it caused. Apple's CFO said that the company now has $97.6 billion in the bank (mostly offshore), which is a 16 billion increase compared to the last numbers. "We are actively discussing uses of our cash balance and don't have anything specific to announce today," Oppenheimer said.

When asked if Apple is worried about the cheaper tablet competition, and the Amazon Kindle Fire in particular, Tim Cook chimed in:

We were happy with the 15.4 million iPads we were able to sell. There will come a day when the tablet market in units is larger than the PC market. In fact, it's interesting to note that in the U.S. - it's clear from IDC's recent data - that tablet sales exceeded PC sales in the U.S. You can see different indicators that there's significant momentum. 

As for competition, the iPad is in a class by itself. People really want to do multiple things with their tablets, so we don't see these limited-function tablets being in the same category. There are clearly people who will buy them in a fair number of units, but I don't think people who want to buy an iPad would go for a limited-function device. We're going to continue to compete with anyone currently shipping tablets.
Asked about its personal experience in the first four months on the job as Apple's CEO, Tim Cook added: "I love Apple and it's a reminder every day at how much of a privilege it is to work with a team of people who are so incredible."

Still, Apple cautioned that it won't repeat these record numbers, especially the huge profit margin. Its forward guidance is now lower than the usual seasonal adjustment, due to the quarter it just reported being longer than normal, and also the strengthened US dollar versus the Euro, which is likely to affect sales in the current quarter.

Asked about if Apple intends to implement features that come standard in flagship Android handsets now, like larger screens with HD resolution, and LTE connectivity, Tim Cook simply said: "I wouldn't comment on the future roadmap. I would point out that we just sold a record 37M iPhones. We could have sold more if we had more in supply. There's a lot of people who really love what we're doing."

And finally, when asked if the game is becoming a two-horse race now, between Android and iOS, Tim Cook concluded that there is also a horse in Redmond that always runs and will keep running. "We focus on making the world's best products. We ignore how many horses there are." Spoken like a true Apple CEO.

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posted on 24 Jan 2012, 15:56 13

1. iKingTrust (banned) (Posts: 716; Member since: 27 Jul 2011)


WOW. I love it

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:07 10

10. jogutier (Posts: 324; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


And then they spend it on suing people. LOL!

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:20

45. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@jog. Suing is only a small portion of Apple's spendings. But for you, that's of course the most noticeable one :)

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:36 5

15. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Wow!! i have absolutely no clue as to why a person would even consider a complicated....function wise.....simply....dumbness wise.....and basically make no sense platform that ios and mac altogether provide......i dont even no how to close screens on a mac computer...they have three dots.....absolutely no ease of use while working a mac product except for lets say an ipod....but even then

Android... man you can upgrade downgrade customize....de-customize....change functions.....build functions......and actually USE it as it is meant to be....put skins....change skins.....basically anything you want....and they haven't even unleashed the full potential of linux based customization.

Anyone that cares about their computer/pda puts it in a case so iphoney asthetics isn't so appealing all lock-up behind a case... and i never like the bulk of an iphone. not my taste. hurray for the con job...

the only thing i think that is remarkable would be the warranty but granted the price point of 650 for a 500 dollar product you are in essence paying for a 150 dollar warranty juxtaposed by plans calculated by engineering grade mathematicians they know exactly how they are linchin your pocket book.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 18:11 3

22. E.N. (Posts: 2239; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


thanks for sharing!!

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 18:25 2

24. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


Wait a second...you just admitted your own ignorance as far as iOS and OSX goes and yet you still find a way to come to a determination about it...without learning it?

In a nutshell, the reason Apple is successful is because they don't cater to nerds who are in the minority as far as purchasing power goes. They make products that anyone can use. People who didn't understand Blackberry OS, Windows Mobile, and Palm felt more comfortable using iOS because it's clean and easy to use. People also don't have to fear about messing up their phone because Apple doesn't allow them to. It may suck for folks who like heavy customization, but for the consumer majority, it works just fine.

What's funny is that you say Macs are complicated function wise, but they are actually quite simple. In fact, Microsoft has borrowed a lot from OSX in making Windows 7, which got great reviews compared to Windows Vista. Maybe try to figure something out before developing an opinion of it.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 00:11 3

35. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Load of garbage is what a mac is.....it will fall off just like it did in the 90s! peace

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:23

46. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@g2. And you will own a multi billion dollar company someday. Uhmmmmm, NOT, lol.

posted on 26 Jan 2012, 19:38

60. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


the question is do i want billion dollar company....also the second question is, that they got to rat chasing its own tail: will you own a billion dollar company??? lmao

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 20:09 3

29. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


The typical android camp arguments against the iPhone found on phonearena.com are: the form factor is dated, the screen is too small, the lack of memory 512Mb vs 1Gb for android, missing SD card slot for more storage, removable battery, anything samsung desperately uses in its commercials, etc, etc, etc.

At the end of the day, people want iphones -- they are happy with the form factor, the small 3.5" retina display, the 8 MP camera that is setting the new standard, the revoluntionary iOS 5.0, etc, etc, etc. and paying big bucks in the process. And still, the apple ifanatics continue to wait long lines for new product introductions.

And you will continue to see Samsung attacking Apple's dated features in tv ads. Samsunged really means Apple-envy.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 00:16 1

36. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Mac suck all day every day for life... People will wake up really and i mean really soon! Giving it a year...

SUCK A##ness is what ios is retina is almost similar to my samsung exhibit 4G and it has a 512 ram smoov as buddda!! Revolutioinary....lmao steve jobs basically took what file sharing did for free and and started charging money for it...and called it itunes aka,.. crapola....lmfao....@iphone users....does it give you a false sense of class!....i wont always bash em they got a smoov os...but other than that....hmmm dont see any point.....they are pusshing a small computer as a phone....its not a phone it is in all actuality a computer and should act as ONE!

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 08:45 1

41. steev57 (Posts: 8; Member since: 01 Dec 2011)


"SUCK A##ness is what ios is retina is almost similar to my samsung exhibit 4G and it has a 512 ram smoov as buddda!!"

I really hope English isn't your first language.

posted on 26 Jan 2012, 19:26

55. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


You douchebags have got to get some better comebacks than is english your first language....lmfao and all the other words were what cryptic cyborgian or clingon like your a$$.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 15:57 10

2. Birds (Posts: 971; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)


I would Troll because I hate Apple but this is still good news.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 16:01 13

3. aztaxia12295 (Posts: 265; Member since: 22 Nov 2009)


things i like about apple:
-their products
-their security/reliability
-their easiness
-their customer service
-steve jobs

things i hate about apple:
-their suing
-their "this is revolutionary" attitude
-their 7 hour long keynotes
-and most importantly, THEIR FANS!

bottom line, if apple weren't so cold hearted to everyone else, i would REALLY respect this report, but their suing and their annoying fans have tainted my likings

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 16:14 5

6. greathero1 (Posts: 460; Member since: 13 Jun 2008)


Well, on the fans part. There rabid fanboys are big douche bags just like the rabid Android ones. They are more or less the same.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:12 4

11. jogutier (Posts: 324; Member since: 12 Feb 2010)


Strongly disagree.... That's two way different worlds. Sorry....

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:43 1

18. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


android fans are not fans with nothing but fervour....the functionality and customization allows them to realize that they have a computing device in their hand not a statement-in-hand....

someone that appreciates substance can qualify as more than a fan more of a avid user....someone that appreciates style would be more of a fan....ergo apple fanboys.

I would consider using an crab-pple if the ease of use weren't like a game itself....decode this to get to this.... I don't know it just seem apple fans...well .....are just a bit ....simple....and not in the good way.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 18:16 4

23. E.N. (Posts: 2239; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Okay G2Noobin, you like Android, we get it. Judging only from the comments you've posted thus far, you're still a fanboy.....maybe worse

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 00:18

37. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


lmfao what you got a dose of floride on tap...lmao labeling me as an internet criminal lmfao!!

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:31 1

48. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@g2. Consumers buy products for different reasons. You obviously have your own reasons why you prefer android over ios. But obviously, android does ot cut it for everyone. Just like ios does not cut it for everyone. Now why is that hard for you to understand? Why does a person buy a $40,000 base model BMW when he could have bought a $20,000 fully loaded Hyundai with more features?

Other people's choices should not be your problem, and there is no reason why it should upset you. Unless you're a crazy person :)

posted on 26 Jan 2012, 19:29

56. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Agreed great comment....but ios still just sucks....imna just saying people have got to wake up....the country is full of noobs that have nothing but ego....and he said she said....become individuals and get better laws....with better ethicsl and morilistic/logic backings....but what do i know.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 18:28 3

25. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)


Perception, my friend. Nothing is revolutionary anymore. But if you think like a capitalist, you'd say the same thing. You have to promote your product as if it's the best thing in the world. Otherwise, no one will buy into it. Apple is successful for the same reason you hate them. So if you were a capitalist and wanted to make money, would you keep doing what makes you money or listen to someone on a message board? And that's not a slight against you or saying your words aren't valid. But you have to understand that business aren't trying to win YOU over. They want to get as much money as possible. That's capitalism. Apple has found what works and other companies are trying to follow that.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 16:10 4

4. tq3866 (Posts: 25; Member since: 20 Jan 2011)


Damn...13.1 billion in profits, wow

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 16:13 3

5. Scott_H (Posts: 167; Member since: 28 Oct 2011)


This is a monumental accomplishment.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 16:36 6

7. E.N. (Posts: 2239; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


So much for all the predictions of Apple's decline/death. And this is just for the 4S, I'm sure the iPhone 5/6 will be much better than this.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:45

19. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


OH its coming....!

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 18:03 3

20. E.N. (Posts: 2239; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Sure, sometime in the next 5, 10 ,15 years maybe. But until it actually does happen, why don't we just not keep rambling about it as to not ruin the surprise. I like surprises.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:33

49. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@g2. When? You'd more than likely die first before Apple does :)

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 16:47 1

8. darac (Posts: 2156; Member since: 17 Oct 2011)


these news make me want to puke .. : (

and oh, "the limited products " reference towards competing tablets!
just disgusting

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 23:27 2

33. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


do u not enjoy seeing a successful american company? they seem to be harder to come by these days

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 00:21 1

38. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Successful my ass they are conning you into thinking support the upper class lmfao wake up dude....make cr#$$y products lose your customers....

lmao how hard is to basically tear appart a honda civic and basically try your damndest to copy it with tweaks.....lol. ford seems like its finally taking a page from euro... companies...

and what would be considered an american company which produces 90% of its physical product out side of america!

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:31 1

47. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)


lol.. what is wrong with the upper class? someone has to have money...

uh when did i talk about ford exactly? i dont like a lot of american companies like ford so i admire apple for being successful

yes but all the money stays in america... the money is not flying back to europe/asia... if america cant be competitive enough to make the jobs here that is a seperate issue but at least the money stays here

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:37

50. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@g2. You are wrong. Your stinky a$$ is far from Apple's success, so keep your a$$ to yourself :)

Use your approach and start your own business. Now let's see if your a$$ can make $13billion in 13 weeks :)

posted on 26 Jan 2012, 19:32

58. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


your stinking a$$ is far from googles success...and again its laughable that you use an iphone. lmfao.....douche keep your cling on to yourself...

Id rather have a computer in my hand than a sinple (retarded) u-phone (basically a jailhouse for you). peace rehab

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 16:49 3

9. downphoenix (Posts: 2293; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)


"Apple's CFO said that the company now has $97.6 billion in the bank (mostly offshore), which is a 16 billion increase compared to the last numbers."

They are the most profitable company in the world and have no trouble throwing their country of origin under the bus. Bring that money home, it needs to be taxed!

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:32 3

14. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


Google isn't bringing its billions home either.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 19:14

27. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


so that makes it right just cause someone else is doing it too.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:22 1

12. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


that's all down to there loyal fan base the ones who will buy apple only regardless if there is better product.....now only if that money was being for good...all these companies apple,Google,Microsoft etc literally could end world hunger etc if they wanted....wonder if the day will come when they say we have enough money now and lets actually do something to change the world hmmm

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 00:22

39. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


Now that IS A POST Taz89 Keep of the good work!!

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:42

51. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@taz. In short, you want a piece of Apple's wealth. Lol.

You want a better life? Then work for your own success and don't wait for big companies like Apple to give you their earned money. Apple got to where they're at because they worked for it. Now if you think you can do a better job, then I'm sure you won't have a hard time surpassing Apple. Then let's see what you'd do with your billions when you get there. When you do, practice what you preached and please don't forget to give me some of it :)

posted on 26 Jan 2012, 19:30

57. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


man how is it they con you into thinking its equal opportunity...just because you have sold your soul doesn't mean everyone wants to gemini=twoface..hmmm

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:31 1

13. ardent1 (Posts: 1991; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)


People love Apple products and it shows.

The good news is that the Android camp needs to develop new features to compete against Apple, and the bottomline is both Apple and Android users benefit. Apple is doing a great job competing against the android ecosystem because Apple has a history of taking on the established or majority, i.e. it went against Big Blue (they left the PC hardware business), it went against MicroSoft (they killed the Zune project, continued to get killed in the mobile handset business, was taught a lesson in tablets despite MS having a 10+ year head start), it went against RIMM (the ex-CEO deeply regrets commenting about how people don't want to type on glass), etc.

Apple is shrewd because it's a long-term player. To grow their share of the PC buiness from a 1% market share to a dominate player today since Jobs' return reveals Apple's way of competing. Apple is going to slug it out with anybody and consumers have benefited from Apple's strategies.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 12:02 1

42. BenCjamin (Posts: 78; Member since: 13 May 2011)


Hey Ardent +1ing your own comment doesn't count! And though people love apple products, people also love google products. Otherwise android would not have had as great of success as it does. not only that but most people that like apple are the ones who can't figure out how to handle a android phone so they go for the simplest design or the phones they've heard about the most. That is what apple has, a simple straight forward design with little customization and easy-to-use instructions. Android however, has open source and much more customization than IOS. And therefore people who truly are more tech savvy will TYPICALLY choose the Android products over Apple products.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 13:37

43. E.N. (Posts: 2239; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


That's BS reasoning. There are freaking engineers that use iPhones. Come on now, adding a widget to your home screen is not that hard guys!! If you can hold the screen to delete an app, make a folder, or delete an application from the multitasking menu on an iPhone, then you can customize your phone and add a background. If you can download an application from the app store, then you can download a live wallpaper from the android market. You guys give yourselves waaaaayyy too much credit.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:37

16. jamrockjones (Posts: 345; Member since: 26 Oct 2011)


The fact that they make so much money per iPhone sold makes me realize more and more how much Apple screws people. What is it that you're paying so much money for?! It's that Apple with a bite in it on the back of the phone.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 17:40 1

17. Astreo (Posts: 99; Member since: 05 May 2011)


Im sorry what? you do realize that everyone makes crazy profit on their phones right?

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 18:07 2

21. E.N. (Posts: 2239; Member since: 25 Jan 2009)


Haha, he's just going through the article finding something to negative to pick at. common Android user response

jamrockjones, you might have a bone to pick with Samsung and Motorola. I'm hearing the Nexus and the Razr Maxx are starting at $299. I'm sure that pisses you off......or maybe not.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:43

52. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@jam. Yes :)

And you are affected because? :)

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 18:54 2

26. theBankRobber (Posts: 645; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Well when you get poor people to make your product for a few dollars and make about 90% pure profit off 1 device and keep the money over seas, no wounded they have so much money. If you think that's OK, ask the hundred thousands of people out of work in the US. Hell I see people calling Walmart everyday about getting a job, EVERYDAY, to work at walmart because everything is going over seas. Such a very sad day.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 19:18 1

28. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


am sure their is someone that will defend apple...they say there isn't enough skill people I call bull...how many people are there in a US and they say there's not enough skilled people and if that's the case they should train them...at least have the guts to say that the reason you truly choose to manufactur in China is because of the cheap labour which allows for the huge profit margin...this goes out to all companies who do this,they should create work in they own country...

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 20:34

32. theBankRobber (Posts: 645; Member since: 22 Sep 2011)


Amen to that, I think HP had to shut down its last manufacturing warehouse in 2010 in the US. They had to move it over seas because everyone else has done the same thing which caused HP to go where the cheap labor was. You can't compete with others if they move to other countries, get cheap labor and make huge profits. HP was the last big company to have a warehouse in the US, now, well say good bye to the middle class. Its ether you make the big bucks or your poor or lower middle class making barely $21,000 a year.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:47

53. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@bank. Looks like you know how things should work, and you have a simple solution to that problem that no one in the US government has ever thought of. I suggest you run for US president. Taz will already vote for you :)

In the meantime, someone spilled their drink at isle 7. Now go clean it up :)

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 20:13 3

30. Paden (Posts: 262; Member since: 07 Jul 2011)


Man, Apple is dying.

posted on 24 Jan 2012, 20:15 3

31. andrwroepke (Posts: 9; Member since: 24 Jan 2012)


Yeah G2Noobin, Apple products are so hard to use. Automatic updates, no anti-virus software. Time Machine Backup. Pre-loaded software. The best customer service. I can't see why anyone would buy one.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 00:29 2

40. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


lmao Open source compared to closed source...automatic updates as well for android...i have not caught a virus...yet...easy to flash a brand new kernel if you want....time machine backup available with modding but gonna be just as readily available....being a total noob head and needing customer service ...granted....crappiest OS in the world ios....crappiest itunes ever....just plain bad.....Version of siri had already been on Samsung since the begining of 2011...lmao...Free apps....free modding and hacking to toooooootally customize phone from screen animations...3D scrolling changing the dialer....modem.....live wallpapers.....boot up sequence.....make widgets......add roms....

give me that customization and you got a killer iphone...that i would consider buying....this is like the PC wars of the nineties.....Mac is due for a fall off! OPEN SOURCE FOR LIFE!

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:51

54. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


@g2. Wow, android should have a higher customer satisfaction rating that ios then. But it does not :)

posted on 26 Jan 2012, 19:35

59. G2Noobin (Posts: 81; Member since: 17 Dec 2011)


its cuz its a cult...i go into an apple store with freedom on my mind and i see a bunch of noobs thinking im out fo place....lmfao @ these rehabs that think they are buying a good product...its sad to see people buying style over substance...but hey what do i know.

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 00:00 2

34. ilia1986 (unregistered)


LOL @ Tim saying that *other* tablets are "limited function" compared to the iPad. Just LOL.

Especially when you can install ICS on the Touch-Pad. And root the Fire..

posted on 25 Jan 2012, 17:17 1

44. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)


You mean rooting the kindle fire will give it a camera?

You're obviously smarter than Tim, illia. I don't blame you for LOL'ing at him. So where's your multi billion dollar company?

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