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Analyst restates that Apple is likely to unveil two iPhones this year - iPhone 4+ and iPhone 5 with improved battery life

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Analyst restates that Apple is likely to unveil two iPhones this year - iPhone 4+ and iPhone 5 with improved battery life
Mark Moskowitz of J.P. Morgan fame issued a research note to his clients that Apple is indeed on the verge of announcing not one, but two new iPhones this year. 

One of them he calls iPhone 4+, which is likely to have marginally better specs than the current generation, with largely the same looks - maybe something like the white plastic one that leaked previously. This one is said to be mainly heading to Chinese carriers, whose large subscriber base makes it worth designing a separate mid-ranger to enhance market penetration. Mr Moskowitz, however, sees additional sales for the iPhone 4+, not only China, as it could cover the mid-range in other markets as well.

The other one, referred to as iPhone 5, will supposedly be thinner, lighter, with a larger Retina Display and 1GB of RAM, sporting a dual-mode GSM/CDMA baseband radio for worldwide connectivity. Nothing we haven't heard so far, but the new tidbit is "increased battery life due to advancement in battery technologies, the printed circuit board (PCB), the touch screen, and LCD power consumption metrics.

We know that you can basically take two approaches when designing a new ARM-based chipset generation - to gun for performance increase with the same power consumption and footprint, or aim for improved battery life and a smaller footprint. Apple might have optimized the iPhone A5 chipset for the latter, but still it's not only the silicon that draws power, that's why we are also interested what type of screen has gone into the next iPhone, that will eventually help in prolonging battery life. If Cupertino manages to pull off a significant enough increase in battery endurance, that would be quite a differentiating factor given that the rest of the rumored specs aren't something we don't already have on high-end Android handsets.

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posted on 19 Sep 2011, 09:32 11

1. Yeeee (Posts: 190; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


I bet a quarter of iPhone people will think this is a 5g phone. Then the rest will think its 4g and they won't find out until some nerd shows them an android phone with 4g

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 09:56 4

5. Give it a rest (unregistered)


4G, 5G ... this argument is old. I can then come back with at Apple's rate of law suits ... Android is going to be banned by the next year anyway. Enough already.

The fact is there are now A LOT of cheap Android devices out there of all different sizes.

If this article is true ... Apple is simply trying to introduce a cheaper and better (improved camera, etc) alternative to draw folks accordingly. Apple is not known for supporting older platforms. Hence, Apply is probably trying to introduce a cheaper "4S" to hopefully convince 3G, 3GS folks to get onto newer platforms before they drop support on the older devices.

As far as being locked down ... not everyone one is a developer ... or a "geek". They want something that "just works".

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:01 5

7. ayephoner (Posts: 836; Member since: 09 Jun 2009)


when the original moto droid was launched, their marketing campeign was an all out assault on things that the iphone couldnt do or couldnt do well. it really paid off for them and still does.

apple has focused on the iphone working well, consistantly and easily. they love the phrase "it just works". this battery life focus is a great idea for them. they are going to milk every drop out of it. im very excited about this. i wont see LTE in my region for quite some time, so battery life is MUCH more important. apple is going to win a ton of customers with their battery life marketing.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:30 6

10. Tristann (Posts: 76; Member since: 04 Nov 2010)


Sadly this is gonna happen -_-
I constantly hear "oh you have the iPhone4g?!?!"
"Beg pardon?"
Non Techies are funny ;)

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 09:33 2

2. Andman314 (Posts: 60; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)


Its all about Android. Does Apple really think if they push out two apple phone that people are going to rush and get the iphone. The iphone is way to locked down and you cant do much with it unless you jailbreak it. Ether way both phone will work the same and wont do anything species. :)

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:04 8

8. G-Reg (unregistered)


Saddly, some people just dont care. People like to flock to the iphone becuse they know someone with one. And with that, learning how to use it is almost elementry.

Android and iPhone users are different from the get go. I laugh at everyones attempt to try and convince another of your phones superiority.

If your techy, if you like to have control and dive into a devices complexities and do some off the wall sh!t, guess what... your a great android kinda person.

If you seek simplicity and dont care to spend hours customizing, chances are your gonna get the iphone.

We are lucky as all get out to have two compleatly different platforms to choose from as a customer.

People need to quit being self rightous tools and realize some people value different things AND ITS OK!!

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 11:13 5

15. bernie (unregistered)


WELL SAID!!! I'm sick of apple fanboys and fandroids bickering against each other. I happen to like both as I'm a techie but at the same time appreciate simplicity and a minimalistic approach. I have both an HTC Incredible S and an iPhone 4 and I must say I love them both!

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 12:52

19. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


yh same hear i have both os and like them both...i just dont get these super fanboys from both capm that thinks that everyone must like the phone they have...

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 14:01

28. Phoneguy007 (Posts: 218; Member since: 02 Jun 2011)


I agree i have and Infuse and an I4..i like them both!

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 09:39 5

3. dacastrator (unregistered)


I think iDevices are pretty decent, the reason why it drives a lot of people like us away from it is because of its lack of customization and freedom.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 18:58

38. biophone (Posts: 1893; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)


You gotta admit if the iPhone in the left happens its mega sexy. HAHAHA lol but i really want one. Like isheep level. I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT :). That is unless the prime comes out on verizon with exynos and lte. OMG.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 09:45 9

4. bucky (Posts: 1341; Member since: 30 Sep 2009)


a lot of people don't wanna tinker with the phones. most people just want something that works. I definitely respect the way apple designed there platform.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 09:57 3

6. Gcombs (Posts: 133; Member since: 22 Aug 2011)


I do believe Apple will have some sort of customization this time around but not to the same extent as Android.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:11 4

9. Tristann (Posts: 76; Member since: 04 Nov 2010)


I saw it this way.
iPhone4 2010
iPhone4g 2011
iPhone4gs 2012
Sorta like before lol :)
iPhone then
iPhone3g then
iPhone3gs.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:45

12. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


And again naming a device 4g and 4gs without LTE or 4g support is kinda misleading to those who buy iPhones and don't really know the difference.
I was in my local VZW store on Sat, and a gentleman in his early 50's was standing next to me saying I'm getting the thunderbolt today, I told him of the battery issues and suggested the Bionic or Revolution. He told me " I read on the boards last night that there were no more issues with battery life and it's the fastest phone."
I guess you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink Those people can suffer with their Thundercrap and iDiotphones.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:53 1

13. Tristann (Posts: 76; Member since: 04 Nov 2010)


I should of added it to that*
I think Apple is gonna name it 4s since they could make the next one LTE ready but since ATT doesn't have there LTE up and ready it would be convenient to make one LTE and the other not. Possible fragmentation in there eyes?

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 11:59 7

16. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Well Apple hasn't named their phone 4G.

Also referring to the iPhone as an idiot phone is disrespectful and makes you look like a childish idiot.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 12:34 1

18. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


when are you not disrespectful and a childish idiot?
and we are going by past naming history here you know like a PREDICTION.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 12:57

20. taz89 (Posts: 2014; Member since: 03 May 2011)


i think taco has changed his ways darth8ball...hopefully this means less fanboy comments from fanboys obviously lol and will mean people can have proper discussions with out being called a isheep or fandroid etc

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 13:02

21. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


I have commented on this site many times that my calling Apples phone the iDiotPhone has nothing to do with the users but the fact that I think Steve Jobs names things i for the fact that it is so simple any idiot(anyone not the great Steve Jobs) can use it and you don't have to be tech savvy to operate one. IMO.
taco seems to take it personally and while he made some intelligent and polite comments last week, one which i even sided with him on he went right back to immature simpleton.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 13:14 3

23. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Simple doesn't make you an idiot. If that's the case let's get rid of windows and go back to dos, let's get rid of automatic transmission etc. The whole point if technology is to make thins simpler, faster and easier to use.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 13:24 1

24. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


The line of books....
http://www.dummies.com/how-to.html
doesn't mean your a dummy just don't know how to do something or do it well.
When you learn how to infer from a persons statements what they mean because we all don't speak in simple language, then you might just do better in life and interpersonl communications

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 13:30 3

25. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


Don't try to spin this around. Calling it an idiot phone is a dig at Apple and it's users. At least be man enough to admit when you talk s**t.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 14:08 1

30. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


It is a dig at Apple your right, but my brother is an iDiotPhone user and he is no idiot, he is very tech savvy but had one good experience with Apple customer service with his iPod and was pissed at the LG cust service he was getting so he bought an iDiotPhone, and gets the new one launch day ever since.
And as a grown man with a masters degree and has a consulting business, I get paid to analyze all aspects of a matter and help companies make the right decisions on many things, I take offense when someone like you calls me out and, like you have in the past calls me a moron, and an uneducated person.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 14:23 3

31. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You behave like an uneducated person on these boards so I treat you accordingly.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 14:41 1

32. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)


Why because I don't agree with your reasoning. I couldn't be right while you could be wrong, no chance of that happening.
Opinions are like a**holes, everyone has one, only I get paid for mine and you can't even give yours away for free.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 15:02 2

33. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


You insult people who disagree with you. That's the issue. You can't give a coherent argument.

I feel sorry for people that consult with you. You're obviously not very bright.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 14:06 4

29. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i prefer stick shift. does that count? lol

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 20:57

39. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


2 thumbs down. i guess some girls around here drive an automatic :)

posted on 22 Dec 2011, 14:57

45. HTCiscool (Posts: 449; Member since: 16 Jul 2011)


The Revolution is a piece of S**t for your information

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 12:26

17. jass (unregistered)


apple likes to surprise their fans, so its gonna be different this time
iphone4 2010
iphone4s 2011
iphone4gs 2012

thats the surprise gonna be this year...lol

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:44 1

11. jagan (unregistered)


whatever man, Apple to fight with Sammy in phones not in courts. Even if apple wins i wont go behind them

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 10:59

14. Tristann (Posts: 76; Member since: 04 Nov 2010)


Inconvenient*

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 13:11 1

22. jass (unregistered)


iphone is boring now....

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 13:31

26. Phullofphil (Posts: 800; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)


I like the I phone and I too have an I phone and an android stood x. I am going to get a new phone ASAP but after playing with a bionic and seeing how fast the 4g speed is in my area I will be getting a 4g phone next. I would like to get an iPhone 5 but if it does not have LTE I don't think it will be worth not using the iPhone 4. It gets good enough battery life for me.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 13:49

27. robblackburnn (unregistered)


I just bought my first HTC HD7 on O2 and I love it! Really, leave iOS and Android, thats rubbish! Try Windows Phone and you will love it!

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 15:04 2

34. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)


By the way I really think Apple is going to be doing something really big with the iPhone 5. Something that makes people go crazy over the phone. If it was going to be just a refresh with dual core and better camera there's no reason for the delay.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 15:40 1

35. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


apple themselves was quoted as saying the iphone5 wasnt a huge change. the big guns are supposed to be in the i6, so dont get your hopes too high.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 15:52 2

36. wassup (Posts: 565; Member since: 23 Jun 2011)


yep, something really big!
it can make calls now :D
now you can finally call!
but you mustn't hold it wrong :)

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 21:09

40. toystore (unregistered)


Kids are fighting to be proving their toys are superior then other……..
Iphones are touch screen version of Nintendo DS with calling future.
Andorids are touch screen version PSP with calling future.

posted on 19 Sep 2011, 22:19

41. henrickrw (Posts: 403; Member since: 16 Sep 2011)


It´s the end of an era..... May God save Apple...!!!!

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 11:47

42. ZayZay (Posts: 556; Member since: 26 Feb 2011)


I like how all the posts with someone saying any little thing negative about the iphone gets 10 thumbs down.

Watch...

The Iphone is boring and is a "phone" for old people and people who are to lazy to learn how to use a phone with features that involve brain power.

Go!

posted on 20 Sep 2011, 20:03

44. bolaG (Posts: 468; Member since: 15 Aug 2011)


I got the first one in whos next haha

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