Razer CEO talks about the headphone jack: why is it missing on the Razer Phone?
by Preslav Kateliev / Nov 27, 2017, 2:53 AM
In 2017, we saw two trends rise to the top in the smartphone world — the thin bezels around an 18:9 display, and the removal of the headphone jack. The latter is generally considered as an annoyance — users are forced to either ditch their current favorite set of headphones for one that has a Lightning or USB-C connector or use an extra dongle that hooks your 3.5 mm headphone jack to the phone.
And whenever a new model comes out without a headphone jack, users ask “OK, why? Why did this particular phone need its headphone jack removed?”.
Since the recently released Razer Phone also lacks a 3.5 mm connector and doesn't even have water-proofing, the question was lingering around that phone as well. But Razer CEO Min-Liang Tan has taken to Facebook to explain why the manufacturer made the choice that it did.
So, long story short, Mr. Tan's post seems to point out that the biggest gain from the removal of the jack is an extra 500 mAh for the battery. That's quite impressive and helps to bring the Razer Phone's juicer up to 4,000 mAh — quite the generous battery and every bit of it is needed to power that Snapdragon 835 with 8 GB of RAM and a QHD (1440 x 2560) display with a 120 Hz refresh rate.
But he also points out that since Razer was including a dongle with the phone, it actually decided to have a high-quality, 24-bit DAC built into it, so that it puts out an audiophile-pleasing sound. That's certainly something that's worth mentioning more often and it's possible that Razer wouldn't have had room for the DAC inside the phone otherwise.
What say you? Are 500 mAh extra battery and a DAC dongle enough to muffle your anger over the lack of a 3.5 mm jack? Or is it still a pain point?
source: Min-Liang Tan
- Display 5.7" 1440 x 2560 pixels
- Camera 12 MP / 8 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 835, Octa-core, 2450 MHz
- Storage 64 GB + microSDXC
- Battery 4000 mAh
Posts: 34; Member since: Apr 20, 2015
None of these explanations from any manufacturer feels real. It's just their decision - if they decided the jack is more important they will decide that first, then find a way to make that sound plausible. A long time ago I read the sales manual of Japanese cars would include Q&As for the salesman. If the customer asks "why have you gone back from a posh looking analog clock to a cheap looking digital clock," say "because it's easier to read." Bwahahaha.
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 2:59 AM 13
Posts: 34; Member since: Apr 20, 2015
Bluetooth or extra dongle introduces complexity that need not exist. Manufacturers can do a lot to alleviate that but they never do - how about adding wireless charging to your headset? How about an extra USB-C on your bundled cable? They don't do it because customization costs money and their margin is going to go from 42% to 41.5%. Oh poor them. Meh.
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 3:07 AM 8
Let's not blast Razer which is their first phone. There's Google Pixel to talk about, what happened to their trolling to Apple in the first year and then a complete U-turn? Google doesn't even ship earphones with their Pixel. I would target them first.
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 4:06 AM 13
Posts: 79; Member since: Aug 11, 2017
So if this guy says the headphone jack compartment had made them add 500mah to the battery I wonder how much battery Samsung could have added to the Note line without the s-pen compartment.. cos the s-pen is about 100% thicker than the 3.5mm jack and about 1000% longer.. let's say the note 8 would have had a 8600mah battery I smell your lies Mr Min-Liang Tan
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 3:13 AM 26
Yeah.. But again, the Note 7 was exposive enough. Didn't want to increase the potential blast radius.
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 4:02 AM 2
Posts: 3129; Member since: Apr 15, 2016
"24-bit THX certified DAC adapter" Now that's explain about Razor's huge 3.5mm adapter. But I still prefer internal DAC than a dongle, hope audio over USB-C/USB-IF become common thing next year
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 3:50 AM 4
Posts: 1499; Member since: Feb 19, 2017
I see a bigger problem with that the adapter with "THX" certification being utter tosh. Like seriously if you make something external and praise it, you better make sure it is actually an upgrade. But to be honest, it's Razer, everyone knows Razer audio products sucks. + Razer phone does not support AptX or LDAC, so what a hell is wrong with you Razer?
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 4:56 AM 3
Posts: 43; Member since: Nov 30, 2012
Why not move to the 2.5mm jack? I feel the 3.5mm jack is important and is more convenient
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 4:26 AM 0
Posts: 636; Member since: Jan 12, 2015
Answering your question it is still a pain point. LG V30 made a great phone with great sound quality with a headphone jack, kudos to them and all manufactures who are holding for that. What next, removing the front camera and proximity sensor to have a bigger screen and a bigger battery. Instead of all of that they should have increased the phone thickness and put something to spread the heating if that was a problem at all.
posted on Nov 27, 2017, 4:34 AM 7
Posts: 30; Member since: Jun 04, 2017
Poor excuse. Smartphone industry is becoming a joke everyday. 18:9 displays , headphone jack missing Samsung still not offering a good audio experience for the price no two day battery life from any mainstream manufacturer just my opinion I'm not a fan of where the industry is headed
posted on Nov 28, 2017, 4:58 AM 1
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