Razer CEO talks about the headphone jack: why is it missing on the Razer Phone?

In 2017, we saw two trends rise to the top in the smartphone world — the thin bezels around an 18:9 display, and the removal of the headphone jack. The latter is generally considered as an annoyance — users are forced to either ditch their current favorite set of headphones for one that has a Lightning or USB-C connector or use an extra dongle that hooks your 3.5 mm headphone jack to the phone.

And whenever a new model comes out without a headphone jack, users ask “OK, why? Why did this particular phone need its headphone jack removed?”.

Since the recently released Razer Phone also lacks a 3.5 mm connector and doesn't even have water-proofing, the question was lingering around that phone as well. But Razer CEO Min-Liang Tan has taken to Facebook to explain why the manufacturer made the choice that it did.

So, long story short, Mr. Tan's post seems to point out that the biggest gain from the removal of the jack is an extra 500 mAh for the battery. That's quite impressive and helps to bring the Razer Phone's juicer up to 4,000 mAh — quite the generous battery and every bit of it is needed to power that Snapdragon 835 with 8 GB of RAM and a QHD (1440 x 2560) display with a 120 Hz refresh rate.

But he also points out that since Razer was including a dongle with the phone, it actually decided to have a high-quality, 24-bit DAC built into it, so that it puts out an audiophile-pleasing sound. That's certainly something that's worth mentioning more often and it's possible that Razer wouldn't have had room for the DAC inside the phone otherwise.

What say you? Are 500 mAh extra battery and a DAC dongle enough to muffle your anger over the lack of a 3.5 mm jack? Or is it still a pain point?

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1. lbblock

Posts: 34; Member since: Apr 20, 2015

None of these explanations from any manufacturer feels real. It's just their decision - if they decided the jack is more important they will decide that first, then find a way to make that sound plausible. A long time ago I read the sales manual of Japanese cars would include Q&As for the salesman. If the customer asks "why have you gone back from a posh looking analog clock to a cheap looking digital clock," say "because it's easier to read." Bwahahaha.

2. lbblock

Posts: 34; Member since: Apr 20, 2015

Bluetooth or extra dongle introduces complexity that need not exist. Manufacturers can do a lot to alleviate that but they never do - how about adding wireless charging to your headset? How about an extra USB-C on your bundled cable? They don't do it because customization costs money and their margin is going to go from 42% to 41.5%. Oh poor them. Meh.

7. Avieshek unregistered

Let's not blast Razer which is their first phone. There's Google Pixel to talk about, what happened to their trolling to Apple in the first year and then a complete U-turn? Google doesn't even ship earphones with their Pixel. I would target them first.

16. sgtdisturbed47

Posts: 970; Member since: Feb 02, 2012

I agree. There's something wrong with companies following Apple in something that should never be done in the first place.

11. Darckent

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 17, 2016

It just sounds like a bunch of crap And that 500mah he says they added (which is a lie) doesn't help with the drainage of Bluetooth headphones Razer messed up pure and simple

3. Wickedsamaritan

Posts: 88; Member since: Aug 11, 2017

So if this guy says the headphone jack compartment had made them add 500mah to the battery I wonder how much battery Samsung could have added to the Note line without the s-pen compartment.. cos the s-pen is about 100% thicker than the 3.5mm jack and about 1000% longer.. let's say the note 8 would have had a 8600mah battery I smell your lies Mr Min-Liang Tan

5. Avieshek unregistered

Yeah.. But again, the Note 7 was exposive enough. Didn't want to increase the potential blast radius.

12. Peacetoall unregistered

there were only 4 to 5 incident of note 7 combustion . still gotta give credit to samsung for not blaming the users instead.

4. worldpeace

Posts: 3135; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

"24-bit THX certified DAC adapter" Now that's explain about Razor's huge 3.5mm adapter. But I still prefer internal DAC than a dongle, hope audio over USB-C/USB-IF become common thing next year

6. Avieshek unregistered

There's also a thing called 2.5D Audio Jack, which is shorter but patented under Apple.

10. japkoslav

Posts: 1552; Member since: Feb 19, 2017

I see a bigger problem with that the adapter with "THX" certification being utter tosh. Like seriously if you make something external and praise it, you better make sure it is actually an upgrade. But to be honest, it's Razer, everyone knows Razer audio products sucks. + Razer phone does not support AptX or LDAC, so what a hell is wrong with you Razer?

18. ph00ny

Posts: 2069; Member since: May 26, 2011

Well phonearena doesn't talk about aptx or ldac when they review bluetooth audio products which is odd to begin

8. Telemike

Posts: 44; Member since: Nov 30, 2012

Why not move to the 2.5mm jack? I feel the 3.5mm jack is important and is more convenient

14. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

How often do you see 2.5mm headphones in stores? I surely don't see any, if they moved to 2.5mm people still would have to buy 3.5->2.5 adapters so it would be pointless

9. An.Awesome.Guy

Posts: 636; Member since: Jan 12, 2015

Answering your question it is still a pain point. LG V30 made a great phone with great sound quality with a headphone jack, kudos to them and all manufactures who are holding for that. What next, removing the front camera and proximity sensor to have a bigger screen and a bigger battery. Instead of all of that they should have increased the phone thickness and put something to spread the heating if that was a problem at all.

13. barondebxl

Posts: 180; Member since: Nov 04, 2011

The lies of this clown. These excuses don't seem to be reasonable.

15. hpspectrex360

Posts: 59; Member since: May 10, 2017

If companies included wireless headphones in the box, I wouldn't mind at all, honestly.

17. Guaire

Posts: 893; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

Considering physical sizes of the battery, audio jack (including the connector) and DAC, real figure close to 200mAh. Nowhere near 500mAh.

19. tacarat

Posts: 854; Member since: Apr 22, 2013

Accessory sales. It's accessory sales.

20. middleup

Posts: 6; Member since: Oct 11, 2015

Don't forget Dolby Atmos installed guys

21. willywanta

Posts: 502; Member since: Jun 04, 2014

I don't mind if they provide a dongle.

22. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1278; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

Thank God, COURAGE is not the reason...

23. RicoRecklezz

Posts: 30; Member since: Jun 04, 2017

Poor excuse. Smartphone industry is becoming a joke everyday. 18:9 displays , headphone jack missing Samsung still not offering a good audio experience for the price no two day battery life from any mainstream manufacturer just my opinion I'm not a fan of where the industry is headed

24. mootu

Posts: 1541; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

Do people think it's a coincidence that they released two sets of headphones at the same time, thats the reason and the only reason.

25. GalaxyLeads_iCrapFollows

Posts: 216; Member since: Nov 29, 2017

Poor excuses. Samsung was able to fit the headphone jack along with all the goodies in a compact sized package, why can't they. Bet these guys just want to copy Craaple.

26. NickSDC

Posts: 26; Member since: Nov 13, 2012

And why is the camera missing?

27. rasinhussy

Posts: 89; Member since: Dec 28, 2008

They should have used the extra space for a better camera. The Razer's camera is garbage.

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