Would you be disappointed if Samsung or LG don't out phones with 4K displays in 2016?

Would you be disappointed if Samsung or LG don't out phones with 4K displays in 2016?
Samsung and LG might be sitting out on the 4K display option for their flagship phones next year, if a report out of Korea is to be believed. They allegedly have looked at the possibility, and probably even have such panels in the pipeline, yet they are reluctant to use them any time soon.

The publication claimed that both Samsung and LG did a cost-benefit analysis on using such high-res screen in their 2016 crop, but deemed the advantages less than the drawbacks, and decided to focus on improving the current Quad HD resolution mark they are at in terms of power consumption and outdoor visibility. Alternatively, Samsung's or LG's 4K phone screens might simply not be up to par in terms of power draw and brightness to enter the mainstream yet, or maybe the companies just think that chasing 4K on a phone is a dead-end.

Sony, however, proved that outfitting the 5.5-inch Xperia Z5 Premium with a 4K display doesn't come with too much compromises in other areas, and it might be the sole manufacturer with such a handset on the market for the foreseeable future. Its approach is to render in 4K only where it counts, like when watching a high-res video or pictures, so as to avoid unnecessary strain on the graphics subsystem and battery life of the device. 

That is why, given that we already have the Z5 Premium on the shelves, we wanted to ask you whether you would be disappointed if mobile juggernauts like Samsung and LG don't come out swinging with a 4K display on a phone of their own next year. Take your pick, and tells us why in the comments.

Would you be disappointed if Samsung or LG don't out phones with 4K displays in 2016?

Yes
16.24%
No
83.76%

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75 Comments

1. GreenMan

Posts: 2698; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

What purpose does 4K display resolution serve other than draining the battery like crazy? We are human beings, our eyes aren't as sharp as.... Say... Eagle's Eyes! I for one honestly can't tell a difference between a 300 PPI & 500+PPI display... But then again, I've a weak eyesight! And awful lot of people have that very same problem!

5. hellbread

Posts: 309; Member since: Nov 21, 2014

I can see diffrence between HD and FHD resolutions but think that 4k for phone is overkill. I wouldnt mind if battery life stod same with 4k, but that is impossible atm.

20. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

4K res in smartphones is great for VR.

30. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

I already using QHD screen for my VR. Not having 4K screen would also mean there is no reason for me to buy new phone in 2016. Good! Can save money.

38. kanagadeepan

Posts: 1273; Member since: Jan 24, 2012

How many hours a day you use your phone for VR?? Is it more than the hours you use in normal activities???

63. tedkord

Posts: 17452; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

What does that matter? If he uses it for VR 5 minutes a day, it still benefits from 4k.

45. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

agree with that, but I doubt any 2016s mobile device have enough processing power to render VR game in 4k while giving nice fps rate and small response rate/delay.. just check gfxbench for 3D t-rex offscreen test for this year flagship.. imagine if they render it in 4times more pixels (since offscreen test is 1080p) how much fps will they get :-/

49. combatmedic870

Posts: 986; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

Ibend, I agree with you. There is a purpose for 4K. But I don't think phones will be capable enough to do it this year. MAYBE next year. IOS A10x next year probably could, just due to PURE optimization. But that's a tablet processor. Anyways, this new line of processors do look good. I'm not bothering with 2015 processors.

55. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Except, even if the A10 could push 4K; the device isn't going to have it. So it doesn't even matter.

60. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Just do what the consoles do (actually many phone games already do this) Render 1080p or 720p then scale up to 4K Scaling can be done without any performance loss since modern GPU have hardware accelerator for that purpose Another thing we need for VR is high refresh rate displays Current phones are only 60 Hz We need at least 90 Hz for ideal VR Just do what Sony did and what Google recommend 1080p 60Hz in normal situations 4K in VR, photo/video gallery, ... (ideally 90+ Hz) Although, I'd like to see an option for 1080p 90+ Hz in normal situations if the battery hit isn't too bad The jump from 60 fps to 90+ fps is hugely noticeable

57. WPX00

Posts: 511; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

That's an awfully narrow use case, and that means we'll be taking the hit in battery and processing/GPU power for something we need to spend extra on.

69. Jango

Posts: 376; Member since: Oct 24, 2014

VR needs it. VR is the future!

47. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

I can discern the difference between a 720p and 1080p as I still see their pixels or I can see lines on the screen, but almost can't on a 1440p as it looks like paper now, but 2160p? I bet it's clearly an overkill.

54. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Serves the same purpose any other display does. Higher resolutions means sharper text, sharper images, vibrant colors and more. if I can have that with equal or better battery-life as I have with QHD, then I will take it. When it comes available, you certainly don't have to buy it. Its not about what is enough. It's about what we can have. If I can have it at the same benefits of anything else, then I want it. if you don't want it then its your money. Don't ruin it for those who don't mind having it.

59. rick_mobile

Posts: 359; Member since: Dec 13, 2010

Some of us use VR and higher resolution makes a huge difference. They should release at least one 4K phone each so people have the option to buy one if they want, and to have variety of brands.

74. rmzalbar

Posts: 1; Member since: Dec 22, 2015

There's only one reason for it: VR. And the entire phone needs to have hardware targeted toward VR as well (Samsung only, under Oculus guidance.) So barring a phone with a VR dual-use intention, NO. There's no other way to use so many pixels on a screen a few inches long. They should focus on other areas of performance, such as brightness and power consumption.

2. DFranch

Posts: 557; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

In fact, I wish they would go back to 1080P screens. plenty clear & uses less battery.

33. SamsungPhanboy

Posts: 765; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

See, this is what's hilarious to me. Many Android fanboys claim 1080p is fine. But then are quick to point out when the iPhone 6s plus scores high as any Android phones in benchmarks that it is only winning because of lower resolution. If the loser resolution is preferred, why does it matter? Hell, it's smarter to have 1080p at this point in time, just for the gain in performance and battery life. My 6P is a great performer and has great battery life, one could only dream about how much both would improve with a 1080p panel.

42. DFranch

Posts: 557; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

I think the desire to benchmark at the same resolution comes from video card benchmarks on PC's. They are always run at the same resolution to fairly compare the performance of a video card. Now if you are strictly comparing the video capabilities of a chipset on a phone, this is still a valid argument. However, when looking at a phone, there is no need to normalize the benchmark results. They are 2 separate items to evaluate individually. 1) do I like the resolution of the phone? 2) how fast does it run?

62. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

It matters in the benchmarks 'cause it plays a key role in the onscreen rendering performance. Often times you'll hear iFan reviewers just ignore the fact that you're getting a crisper experience and elaborate on & praise the iPhone's slightly higher score...that ignoramus attitude is what calls for clarification to balance out the review. Make the review balance and unbiased then there wouldn't be any need to point out such...

3. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

I will not be upset... instead I will be happy if they will go back to the sweet spot of resolution, 1080p... 1440p is good if it doesnt take toll on the battery, specially for LG... otherwise 1080p is enough

48. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

Meanwhile, Samsung made good use of 1440p and optimized the battery very well, maybe LG didn't do enough job to keep up..

4. Zackd44

Posts: 35; Member since: Jun 29, 2015

My break down... 5in and less = 720/1080 5.1-5.3= 1080 5.4-42" = 1080/QHD 42"+ = 1080/4K Yes I jumped from phones to TV's

14. Commentator

Posts: 3723; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

Oooooh. I thought you were talking about the unreleased 42" Samsung Galaxy View 2 tablet.

19. TyrionLannister unregistered

For me: Less than 4.7" -> 720p 4.71-5.2" -> 1080p 5.21-6.99" -> QHD 7" - 15" -> QHD+ ( 3200X1800). 15"+ -> UHD.

29. joeytaylor

Posts: 957; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

Question. .....how difficult would it be for a company to make a panel that is 4k but be turned down to 2.5k and then if you wanted to 1080 or 720....have all those options in the settings....just curious. ..and how does sony use their panel

40. TyrionLannister unregistered

I don't think it will do much good. The panel will still be 4K and will consume the same power as a 4K panel. The only benefit those modes will have will be the SoC will have less load and consume a little less power. You can already do that with root. So it's not difficult at all. There are free apps on play store to do that, if you're rooted of course. But you're not talking much battery life increase by this method. As the display is still a 4K one. Here's a test by PA itself on G3: http://www.phonearena.com/news/We-changed-the-LG-G3s-display-resolution-to-1080p---we-got-superb-performance-and-negligible-battery-life-increases_id65982 Sony is using 1080p mode on z5 premium as lollipop doesn't support 4K displays fully. The battery is just a lame excuse, since you don't save that much. A QHD or 1080p display is still the right call for a smartphone, and there's no need for 4K display now, or ever on a smartphone. A lower resolution panel is usually more accurate, efficient and definitely costs less.

43. sniper1087

Posts: 537; Member since: Dec 31, 2011

there is a way and sony is doing it, they have a way to have the display show 4k while on video, but on normal task, the display works on 1080p, if they can do it I don't see why others cant.

65. TyrionLannister unregistered

This is the way. You can do it on any phone via root lol. I don't think you even read my comment. Not surprising since fanboys are known for short attention span.

41. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

The lannisters have spoken the true word...cuz I agree 100%

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