Will Nokia drop Symbian for Windows Phone?

Will Nokia drop Symbian for Windows Phone?
While analytics firm Gartner has posted figures that show that the Symbian OS owns the leading share of the smartphone platform pie with 44.3% of the worldwide total, that figure represents a 4.5% decline over the last year. With Android and the iPhone growing their share and showing great momentum, is it time for Nokia to think about switching operating systems? Ashkok Kumar, an analyst with Rodman and Renshaw, suggests that "with the odds stacked against the survival of Symbian" it is time for Nokia to drop the OS and replace it with Windows Phone. Microsoft's new OS is more finger friendly and visually focused than prior builds of Windows Mobile ever were. Kumar foresees a future where the iPhone and Android platforms dominate and even with his suggestion, he calls Windows Phone a "wild card". There has been speculation about a Nokia branded Windows Phone device, but as far as Kumar's suggestion becoming reality, the Finnish based firm might just want to see how the Symbian ^3 powered Nokia N8 fares in the market before making a decision.

Nokia N8 Specifications

source: Barron's



1. ilia1986 unregistered

LOL From one failure to another. Just switch to android already like the rest of the lot. It's gonna happen eventually, you know. Oh, and you might need to convert Ovi apps to android compatible ones.. Not a big task really.. seeing as you got so FEW of them.

2. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

LOL...man way to kick Nokia when they're down...but truth nonetheless.

3. ilia1986 unregistered

I seriously don't understand why Nokia didn't switch to android from the very beginning. It couldn't possibly be out of fear to confuse consumers with multiple OSs - as they already got S40, S60 and maemo.. Surely not lack of money (lol).. must be something else then. Maybe EGOISM and UNJUSTIFIED PRIDE. Yeah, that must be it. Seriously - if the N97 would have had even 1.0 Android on it - and a capacitive touchscreen (even without multi-touch) - it would have rocked so hard that the earth would be shaking back at the time.

4. thatdude1 unregistered

The both of you are idiots, plain and simple. Nokia has THE LARGEST market share in terms of OS and handsets. How can you possibly say they are down? Of course, if any OS is worh their weight in gold Nokfia's grasp on the market may slip a little. But NO WAY are they in any trouble of loosing their #1 spot to Android or Iphone. Nokia's market share FAR exceeds Androids and Iphones put together! Before you guys start talking crap, why don't you get some facts to back up your claims like I just did. Clearly you guys are just haters. Nokias marketshare may not be huge in the U.S., but there is more to the world than just the United States, fanboys. And Nokia is KING everywhere else. If anything, Microsoft should try to put Symbian on their handsets.

5. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Dude is correct. SYMBIAN still owns a large share of th epie. Why go to ANDROID? Whatta fanboy. Nokia may want to have some phones running on ANDROID to see how they fare. Heck, Nokia may actually sell more phones if they offer SYMBIAN, WINDOWS 7, and ANDROID 2.2 on various phones. But, why all of a sudden panic now and change to another OS? They need to see if they can tweak SYMBIAN and give it a huge release in the US - if they do keep falling and cannot grab a bigger share of the US market, then something will have to change. Give Nokia 3 years to decide.

6. NokTokDaddy

Posts: 21; Member since: May 12, 2010

with respect to previous posters, you are all missing the two fatal flaws in this report: 1) Most phones sold WORLDWIDE are push-button/keypad fairly basic MOBILE PHONES or FEATUREPHONES. Symbian is still the dominant OS because it is still the best OS for these more basic devices. 2) Android, iPhone and other OS's are for top end SMARTPHONES and INTERNET TABLETS / SLATES. Symbian evolved from more basic devices and is STILL effective on smartphones all these years, but is starting to show its age against these more recent SMARTPHONE OS's. Although Symbian introduced downloadable apps before iPhone and Android were even conceived these later OS's have rapidly developed ecosystems and that is wher the game of catch-up really lies.. You can see Nokia building its own value added services through OVI Store and OVI Maps. Symbian3 (to be followed by Symbian 4)will see the introduction of Qt which will allow easy and rapid cross-compatability of apps between Symbian and Memo/Meego, which will be Nokia's answer to Android and iPhone (ie an OS for smartphones and high-end devices). This will take at least 12 months to happen, so I fully expect Android and iPhones market share to increase at Nokia'expense SHORT TERM. This report is ignorant of the most basic and apparent facts about Nokia and is looking at the company as if it only built phones for the US market. Whilst high-value US smartphone sales are important, Nokia is a WORLDWIDE manufacturer

15. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Great points, and, yes, we did overlook the issues with SYMBIAN. Thanks to APPLE and GOOGLE, NOKIA is looking to immprove their OS and that is a great thing for mobile users, worldwide.

7. jpropin

Posts: 152; Member since: May 20, 2010

Actually, there are quite alot of apps for Symbian. A simple search will show site after site after site of available apps. What apps are available for Android that are not for Symbian? Opera...no Facebook...no Twitter...no Skyfire...no Maps...no Internet Rado...no Need anymore no's? It's handy to remember that much of the world beyond the U.S uses phones with Symbian, so there's plenty of apps out there with more being developed everyday. I own both a Symbian Phone and an Android Phone. There's no question that Android has plenty of apps in it's marketplace. There's also no question that a sizeable portion of it is usesless crapola.

8. modernkoro

Posts: 25; Member since: Jan 27, 2010

No, this's not true. Nokia got MeeGo which's way better than any other OS. Moreover, Symbian gain the largest marketshare of smartphone on the earth. and S40 is the most widely used platform for entry-level mobile phones. They dont need to switch to other platform.

9. ilia1986 unregistered

Well after hearing the Nokia fanboys here, I would just like to quote one of them: "Most phones sold WORLDWIDE are push-button/keypad fairly basic MOBILE PHONES or FEATUREPHONES. Symbian is still the dominant OS because it is still the best OS for these more basic devices." Thats true. Now let me ask you a question. Do you really think that this is going to stay?! That most phones will continue to become simple and\or feature phones? Don't be ridiculous. This is not 2001-7. This is 2010. The cell phone is ALREADY our personal mobile computer as we talk of it. Smartphones are gaining more and more popularity. And that is because of the fact that after the iDevice - people have begun to understand that the phone can be not just for cals\sms but for an unlimited amount of other things as well. Sure there will be some tards with simple Nokia phones in 10 years, and of course all those Anti-technology people who refuse to adapt and learn new technologies - but I say that in 10 years, at least 80% of the entire population in all developed countries will own a smartphone. And that smartphone will have a touch screen, a good camera, a good processor\ram, and a very rich App store. And I say that Unless nokia switches to Android (or Apple buys it lol) - these smartphones WILL NOT be Nokia phones. The world is changing. Deal with it. Adapt. Symbian is to-be dead. And so is Nokia unless they somehow save themselves here.

10. jpropin

Posts: 152; Member since: May 20, 2010

Android isn't the silver bullet, regardless of what the Android Fanboys here say. So in the 10 years you mentioned there's really no reason for others to stop trying to develop their own products and automatically crown Android the savior of mobile technology. Cause it really isn't.

11. ilia1986 unregistered

I never said that. I never said that in 10 years only iPhone and Android will exist (read my post). However as of now - the only platform with a decent amount of apps right now (except the appstore of course) is Android. And afaik Android is open source - thus no need to buy a license for the phone. But yeah. App stores are not built out of thin air. Apple was the first, google was the second. 2 App stores in the mobile market is enough imo. Sure, there might be something new in the following 10 years - but I guess we'll see about that. Companies like Samsung, motorola, and even the puny sony-erricsson worry partly about the future as of right now. Thats why they all have some sort of an android phone\s out there. Motorola is obviously the more dedicated of the three. No reason why Nokia should'nt follow them. Leave Symbian for the oldies still wanting that 6XXX device for calls\sms and maybe for the buisiness people who own the e7X... but dump all this Symbian ^3\4\5\6\7 stuff and get Android.

12. jpropin

Posts: 152; Member since: May 20, 2010

You keep mentioning apps, but you never answered the question posed ealrlier. What truly good and "useful" types of apps are available on Android that can't be found in a form for Symbian. The important apps people want like maps and social networking are all readily availaber for Symbian. I guess Symbian can be faulted cause there's not 100 different fart and machine gun sound effect apps to choose from. Like I said before, I have both an Android and Symbian. The Android has tons of apps available. A sizeable portion of them useless. Symbian also has alot of useless apps. The quantity of available apps means zilch.

13. ilia1986 unregistered

I disagree. The quantity of available apps means a LOT. Because when there is quantity - there is also quality as well. Why do you think people still buy Windows-based PCs? despite the fact that the mac is better in almost every aspect (And there are also cheap macs, so price is not a factor)? Thats right. Choice. The right to choose what is best to you = quantity. I myself have a nokia 5800, but I also have an iTunes account. I already have more than 100 free iTunes apps, and thats only those who I think will be useful. It took me less than 30 seconds to find such an app on the 200k appstore. On my nokia 5800 I only got maybe 5 - 6 different apps. And thats because not only alot of stuff that exists in the appstore - and I'm sure the android as well - doesn't exist there - but also because the stuff that does exist - is either ridiculously overpriced, or hard to find. Again, because of the lack of quantity.

14. pathmarkpolice

Posts: 102; Member since: Feb 05, 2009

Lack of innovation will kill your company. At least palm TRIED with the Web OS, symbian is such a joke now. I mean, it has awesome features, but the user interface is just bland as not as advanced as the newer OS's coming out. The Maemo 5 OS is actually the most interesting thing Nokia has put out, software wise, in a LONG time, and it's been taking them forever to release a proper update to that operating system. There's a lack of integration with their own OVI services. Going to windows is a mistake, ditch symbian, switch to Maemo 5 and android for Smartphones and keep the s40 and s60 platforms for the lower end dumbphones and smartphones with minor cosmetic tweaks here and there. After using my n900 for a couple of months, I love the phone but I know just a few updates from nokia would make the device AMAZING, instead they leave all the work to the geeks and hacker community. I don't know command line, so I'm assed out a lot of times and it's frustrating to see a platform that has so much going for it, end up being left to die on the side of the road by such a crappy OS like symbian. Hopefully MeeGo is cool.

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