Wall Street analyst says 3D-sensing might be pushed back to the 2018 Apple iPhone 8s

Wall Street analyst says 3D-sensing might be pushed back to the 2018 Apple iPhone 8s
One of the most eagerly anticipated features for the 10th anniversary edition Apple iPhone 8 is a front-facing camera that KGI Securities' Ming-Chi Kuo has called revolutionary. The camera would contain a 3D sensor and could be used in conjunction with AR functions. It also would be used to unlock the handset and verify the user's identity. The camera is said to be made by Sony with Foxconn's Sharp responsible for the the infrared receivers that will be used to calculate depth of field information.

The 3D-sensing was expected to be a feature for the front-facing iPhone 8 camera this year, and made available for the rear-facing camera on all 2018 models, It would allow future iPhone models to offer the Apple iPhone 7 Plus' portrait mode feature (creating a blur in the background of a portrait) with just one camera instead of requiring the two snappers that currently adorn the iPhone 7 Plus. But in a note to clients sent today, Needham & Co. analyst Rajvindra Gill said that the 3D-sensing might be pushed back to the 2018 premium model which he called the Apple iPhone 8s.

Instead of delaying the phone and keeping the feature for 2017, Gill sees the iPhone 8 shipping this October or November with 3D-sensing pushed back until 2018. In addition, Gill spoke with James Wang, the COO of smartphone assembly firm Truly Holdings. Wang says that delays in assembling the 3D-sensing technology means that the feature won't be available on the iPhone until the second half of 2018. Furthermore, the assembly firm says that Huawei, Oppo and Vivo will be the first to introduce the technology during the first half of 2018.

source: BGR

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1. Plasticsh1t

Posts: 3109; Member since: Sep 01, 2014

Cool beans.

8. Unordinary unregistered

We don't want gimmick crap. Push it back to never

22. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Lol so the culling begins. Now all the rumored amazing features of the new magical iFan saving iPhone 8 fall one by one until they get an iPhone 7s only. So there goes "3D sensing" or whatever and they already claim that it will look just like the iPhone 7 with vertical cameras. Wonder what's left to drop now, maybe the amazing battery life that the faithful believe it has. Then probably even the resolution and OLED will be dropped as well. The fun part will be all the rationalization again. "We don't want that anyway" again and again.

27. Unordinary unregistered

I don't even want oled. The screen degrades starting day 1. No thanks

2. darkkjedii

Posts: 31328; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

If Apple didn't promise it, then it's just a rumor. If they can't deliver it, then don't speak on it. That's the best strategy.

3. SleeperOne

Posts: 370; Member since: Feb 25, 2017

Don't blow your tenth anniversary of the iPhone, Apple.

6. Creep

Posts: 193; Member since: Apr 05, 2016

lol they will.

9. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

right, just like they did it before.. Mac 20th anniversary edition is a flop.. and they didn't even release Mac 30th anniversary edition, lol..

4. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

Lol, typical flagship fashion. i knew this all along. They never give u everything. Never. No, no, no, we cant include everything, Leave this feature out for the next model and keep them wanting. Same will happen with every flagship, including the supposedly "everything but the kitchen sink" nokia 9 tbh.

10. gehrig

Posts: 423; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

Hey technology takes time to develop. Same with the S8's fingerprint scanner.

5. Stranger

Posts: 73; Member since: Jan 19, 2017

Smartphones are getting boring day by day :(

7. Bankz

Posts: 2550; Member since: Apr 08, 2016

This. Its the reason i'm still on my nexus 5. Theres being nothing thats being compelling enough to upgrade to tbh. Even the nexus 5 itself was/is pretty boring imo. Gone are the s3/m7 days tbh. Its thesame reason microsoft are taking their time till they can get something actually innovative and meaningful. All we have now are the htc 10's, galaxy s7's and the iphone 7's of this world flooding everywhere. Manufacturers should release flagships every 2 yeas imo, when they actually have something to bring to the table, not charging $800 for same wine in a different bottle type devices. Infact, one year upgrades are so incremental that u hardly see why they should even cost $50 more than your old device at its current price tbh.

18. sgodsell

Posts: 7456; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Bankz you talk about compelling new upgrade features. However you are using a Nexus 5 from 2013. Then you bring up the iPhone 7 which hasn't changed much since the iPhone 6. The iPhone 7 has the lowest resolution display on any flagship priced device since the iPhone 6. Even the Nexus 5 that you are still holding​ on to came out in 2013, but it has a higher resolution full HD display compared to the latest iPhone 7 which only has a HD display. The 2013 has wireless charging, which is completely missing from any iPhone. The USB port on the Nexus 5 is micro USB with USB 2.0 speed. However the latest lightning port is still only USB 2.0 transfer speed. Not so lightning is it at only 480 megabits, even last years Android flagships came with USB 3.0 with 5 gigabit. This year's Android flagships we are starting to see USB 3.1 transfer speeds or 10 gigabits. Let's get one thing straight here. iPhones are the stagnant devices here. Even the S7 has a QHD display which is great for VR. Something that would look like total crap on iPhone's. That is why Apple hasn't been pushing VR or AR. Hence what this article is actually talking about. Yet a number of Android smartphones can not only do VR or AR, but also do it well. Not to mention a number of other things that Apple still doesn't offer.

20. kiko007

Posts: 7518; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Bruh... how many times I gotta tell you this: WE DON'T CARE ABOUT s**tTY MOBILE VR!!!! Also, you listed a specsheet like that was supposed to change his tune. If that was all it took yo get people excited, LG and OnePlus phones would sell like hotcakes. However, seeing as how that isn't the case, I think it's time to give that s**t a rest.

21. kiko007

Posts: 7518; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

.... *to

23. iushnt

Posts: 3124; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Watching movies in VR with S7 is cool though.

25. cmdacos

Posts: 4267; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Correction. You don't care about mobile VR. Your opinion...

11. willard12 unregistered

".... features for the 10th anniversary edition" Anniversary - a day that commemorates or celebrates a past event that occurred ON THE SAME DATE of the year as the initial event The original iphone was released January 9th, 2007. In other words, this is the 10th edition of the iphone. The anniversary has past.

13. willard12 unregistered


17. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

did held any special event on January 9th, 2017? no? they didn't even care I guess :-/

12. omnitech

Posts: 1131; Member since: Sep 28, 2016

It's just going to be an iPhone 7 with an OLED display. Why these analysts are blowing their load reporting that everything App,e is testing will be included in this years iphone, an S model year to boot. Who knows. Maybe it's a strategy to slow down the GS8? Who knows.

14. kiko007

Posts: 7518; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

"It's just going to be an iPhone 7 with an OLED display." Literally all I've wanted in an iPhone besides fast charging. Give me those two things, and it'll make it a worthy upgrade. "Why these analysts are blowing their load reporting that everything App,e is testing will be included in this years iphone, an S model year to boot. Who knows." Even if it was just an S model, that would probably be enough reason for them to project this way. S models are usually more about updated internals, meaning not as much external excitement, but that hasn't stopped them from selling well. Apple's probably the only OEM who could get away with a model like that though. HTC tried it with the M8/M9 combo... didn't go so well. "Maybe it's a strategy to slow down the GS8? Who knows." Nah. Considering the two launch dates (mid-April vs. mid-September) by the time the iPhone whatever edition launches, the S8 will be a distant memory. The Note 8 is the only real contender for consumer attention after August.

15. poptart574

Posts: 223; Member since: Feb 29, 2016

That tech won't mean squat till Vivo uses it. I just pre-ordered that Vivo xplay 6 steph curry edition. Hopefully the xplay 7 comes a much later this year.

16. drunkenjay

Posts: 1697; Member since: Feb 11, 2013

really doubt there will be an iphone 8. it will be an iphone 7s and maybe a special edition iphone.

19. Chuck007

Posts: 1411; Member since: Mar 02, 2014

Seems like I was right on. What surprises me is how Apple continually allows these "leaks" knowing Chinese brands will take every opportunity to release the technology first.

24. iushnt

Posts: 3124; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Or maybe since Apple sensed that other brands have already started working on this tech, they leaked it purposively so that they can later claim that others stole the idea from Apple on basis of leaks. All for branding and marketing to show others follow.

26. cmdacos

Posts: 4267; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Big assumption that apple is doing all of these rumored things first

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