Verizon waves the full phone price stick to those who want to keep their unlimited data plan carrot

Verizon waves the full phone price stick to those who want to keep their unlimited data plan carrot
Verizon has been dealing with the fallout of CFO's Fran Shammo quick remarks at an investor conference that Big Red plans to weed those with grandfathered $30 unlimited data plans out this summer.

The carrier was quick to send an email explaining that things will happen gradually, and nobody will be forced to drop their unlimited plan. If customers want to keep their unlimited option, however, they will have to pay full price for a new handset, which for the high-end iOS and Android phones is often north of $600. Those who want subsidized $199 phones will have to wave goodbye to their unlimited option. 

Verizon's spokesperson Brenda Raney chimed in: "Customers won't be automatically moved to new shared data plans. If a 3G or 4G smartphone customer is on an unlimited plan now and they don't want to change their plan, they won't have to do so". Over time, however, when those contracts expire, everyone will have to move up to the tiered structure. Here's the full statement:
source: NYT



45. 14545

Posts: 1835; Member since: Nov 22, 2011

Since when does VZW have 199 "new" phones anymore? All of the "new" highend phones start at 299 now for some idiotic reason. And by the time they are down to 199 I can pick one up on the "street" for about 50-100 bucks more.

43. idaman12000

Posts: 39; Member since: May 03, 2011

it would be ideal if verizon didnt make customers pay full retail price for a phone to keep unlimited data. it should be like how it is currently of when upgrading then no data plan change. it be good to bring bring back the new every two discount, unlimited data, have bundled packages for one low cost monthly.

42. CRICKETownz

Posts: 980; Member since: Oct 24, 2009

People can never be satisfied... Consumers can't see past their own selfish reasons. You want quality for pennies. You want high end technology for pennies. You can't have it all people. The cost of these devices we all love are very expensive to carriers and their has to be a recoup of that money spent or you have a company that is no longer in existence. Customers are completely oblivious to operators costs - either that or they could care less. Gone are the days of the LG EnV, Samsung Alias, & those various basic phones - these are the reasons programs like VIP, NE2 & annual upgrade had to go away b/c customers screamed for Verizon to up their phone catalog & they have but at the price of having to retire those programs. Its called compromise, if you want better you have to sacrifice something else. The level of whining from adult people is criminal. i have Comcast for my home internet (Time Warner for some) b/c i do a lot of multiplayer on my PS3. Comcast is more expensive than everyone out there but it does what i need it to better than those other providers. its like any other service out there like an earlier poster said - water, electric, gas - the more you use...the more you pay. why should wireless carriers be any different? its a service like any thing else. the landscape of wireless has moved forward and since technology is we are. you don't have to be an analyst or post links...its simple, new technology costs money. that's it. you want the Galaxy S3 right? the Nexus? the iPhone 5? the RAZR Maxx? faster network speeds right? well they are giving you what you asked don't complain now that its all here b/c in the end you requested it. things change, its a fact of life...the annoying thing is that those same people that complained about not having the latest tech are most likely those same people complaining about the changes (which aren't even written in stone yet). back to my original can't have it all. like gas prices, it is what it is.

44. chack_fu

Posts: 46; Member since: Jan 19, 2009

Exactly.... no one complains about apple....who has more money than anyone.... gouging the $hit out of american consumers and manufacturing as cheap as it can in the sweatshops in china.... New iphones are really only a big thing in the US because of the subsidies the us carriers put on these phones. How much money do you think apple would make/have if everyone had to pay $650+ for an iphone? Exactly they'd go belly up, they are bleeding money from the us consumer. That $30 upgrade fee, its what i like to call the apple fee. Do you really think do double your memory its another $100 ie... 8gb/16gb/32gb/64gb I dont think so.

49. StillStuckWithDroid

Posts: 65; Member since: Jul 19, 2011

completely disagree with you....NE2,VIP and the likes going away had nothing to do with the cost of phones.....they were perks that Verizon gave oout because they had to hold onto their customer base out of fear they would jump to AT&T to get the iPhone (which was exclusive to AT&T) Once Verizon got the piece of shyte then those perks started dropping like flies

50. chack_fu

Posts: 46; Member since: Jan 19, 2009

Wrong, VIP was gone like 3 years ago. NE2 starting dropping about the same time 100>50>30>0. This all started when smartphones started getting popular ie.. Blackberry. Technology has taken it's toll, that's why these things are changing. The loyalty piece of it start going away with buddy upgrades and having different contract dates for each one of your numbers. it's hard to leave a company when you have two lines under contract and 1 not under contract$$$. And, All the other companies still have the same fees that Verizon does. And you get a better option for phones and the better service with big red.

39. dragonstkdgirl

Posts: 144; Member since: Apr 07, 2012

I work for a Verizon retailer and I think these changes suck. I have four lines on VZW with two smartphones, my dad doesn't even use a GB a month but my usage is all over the place. I need unlimited for my own peace of mind. And after four years of advocating the unlimited data or grandfathering to customers, I'm a little pissed that the company whose product I sell is making me a liar. It's hard to say that I will change to a different carrier when VZW is all that works where my parents live, and the coverage has always proven to be superior in our area especially, but this might be the last straw for me. After watching the VIP and NE2 and annual upgrade programs disappear, and the upgrade fees magically appear over the last two years, Big Red is starting to look more and more like every other carrier. How can they claim to set themselves apart from other carriers when they do away with every program that showed rewards to loyalty? At this point I think the only thing that may make a difference is VZW customers showing their outrage. Hopefully they will allow users to opt to keep their unlimited data without paying seven hundred bucks for a new damn smartphone.

48. StillStuckWithDroid

Posts: 65; Member since: Jul 19, 2011

you have the iPhone to thank for all of these changes Once Verizon got that hunk of shyte it no longer had to try and please their customers or give them perks

38. Windsponge

Posts: 97; Member since: Nov 01, 2009

I might piss off some people but it is time to tell Verizon to go F___ them selves. I have been with them since before they actually became Verizon. The have upped the price more and more and charged for every little thing. The 9.99 for an extra line is now really 15.00 dollars. I will am going to a new Carrier today. Don't care what the rest of you do. As for the new plans being cheeper, you who say that are as dumb as rocks. It will cost you more. We have gotten to think we need all this bull, but we don't. These new phones aren't worth the money they say they cost. Most are junk from China( no offense meant to China). Achmed said it correctly he took the Verizon Bastard with him. I will just learn to have less toys. I don't need phones that get better everyday. Just use my laptop and iPod. As for rest of you if you don't say no they will just keep doing the same and more, so remember that as you justify their charges. Most of you are very intelligent but the Verizon reps should stay the hell off our site.

37. jjgonecrazii

Posts: 1; Member since: May 19, 2012

Ok VZW so make us pay full price for a phone and we'll buy them elsewhere. Ok no more phone upgrade offers that means no more extended phone contracts for u...meaning u won't own none of ur grandfathered customers. But honestly they're only pulling this move to generate more cash as usual. U can't win in the wireless world today everything is over priced, u would think they'd show compasion for loyal customers. I'm just buy phones from off ebay then o well.

47. StillStuckWithDroid

Posts: 65; Member since: Jul 19, 2011

EXACTLY.......I saw a Droid Razr Maxx Bundle kit NIB for about 500.00 In some ways this will be better....I am not locked into a contract....I can just change phones when I feel like it and see a good deal on something that interests me. knowing I never again will be under contract with Verizon is not necessarily a bad thing

32. oldmandaddy

Posts: 64; Member since: May 01, 2010

someones have to start a blogs or wedsite of this matter to protest . They are already charging up grade fees and retocking fees, too.

28. ILikeBubbles

Posts: 525; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

there has to be a way for them to get the revenue that they want without screwing loyal customers.. ive been with verizon for almost 6 years and i LOVE the coverage and even the phones (although i know a lot of people complain about the phones they've been coming out with recently but i'll admit i'm having an affair with the Incredible LTE and that S4 processor

26. ap1989

Posts: 145; Member since: Oct 12, 2011

if its shared data plan they better offer more gigs per mouth and make it cheaper or im moving to sprint or At&t

25. coy2013

Posts: 10; Member since: Mar 06, 2012

This is horse s**t if they wanna take my unlimited away while i still have another year on contract they should give us instant access to the most bad ass phone in order to make up

24. lauremar

Posts: 181; Member since: Feb 29, 2012

CORPORATE GREED! This will bite them in the ass...I suspect a mass exodus of verizon subcribers to other wireless providers who has unlimited data plans.

23. johnriii

Posts: 248; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

well, this is a fine whoop-de-do. basically, I get to keep my unlimited data for 14 more months (upgrade set for July 2013), then I have to decide whether to keep my T-bolt, or pay $600x2 for my wife and I. oh yeah, plus the $30 renewal fee. goodbye unlimited data, we hardly knew ye..... the only thing we can hope and pray for is that the new tiered plans allow for "realistic" data usage at a reasonable price. I'm willing to pay an extra 40 bucks a month for 10GB of shared data (the wifey uses almost none) but anything less than 10GB, to me is unrealistic. does anyone know the "rate" of usage...meaning how much data does a 5 minutes YouTube video use? things like that.... inquiring minds want to know.....

35. jjnbbills12

Posts: 18; Member since: Dec 30, 2011

Where are you getting that you have a 30.00 "renewal" fee if you pay full price for a phone? my hope is all that all of them drop the 2yr contract and the discount on the phones. this would make everything better for all.

22. android_sucks

Posts: 111; Member since: Jul 28, 2011

Way to stick it to 'em Big Red!!!!

19. chriski333

Posts: 22; Member since: May 05, 2012

And I just wave my middle finger back at those greedy bastards

18. rallyguy

Posts: 620; Member since: Mar 13, 2012

One good thing is they give the option of using what ever phone you want with your plan. For a long time Sprint SERO customers were stuck with old phones and you could not get a new phone on that plan. Of course that plan is $30 a month 500 minutes, and unlimited everything else. Then for a $10 monthly upgrade you could upgrade to the new 3G phones. Maybe Verizon will do something like that instead? Of course Verizon is only talking about data here, not the plan itself.

15. JunitoNH

Posts: 1946; Member since: Feb 15, 2012

@chack I understand your points. However, carriers keep contradicting themselves. If data, bandwidth is an issue, why not allow subscribers to connect their phones without a data plan? Secondly, moving from 3G to LTE will definitely cause more overages. Moreover, LTE pipeles, should be able to handle consumer demand when fully implemented. How much are text SMS costing the carriers? especially with all the free text apps available in both markets.

16. chack_fu

Posts: 46; Member since: Jan 19, 2009

I agree... pay full retail, no data required, use wifi (America will not pay the price of full retail). The problem is people will use it wirelessly then complain about the bill that they receive that they were notified about 3 times during the month thru text and email, that they chose to ignore. Problem is things are changing in technology and wireless technology is where its at. Verizon holds a very very strong position with their footprint. You're either a leader or a follower and I think Verizon is leading the charge.

13. dcgore

Posts: 234; Member since: Feb 24, 2012

We, Americans, have been spoiled. A dollar something gasoline, heavy subsidies and unlimited data on our phones. It's fine. I'll just save a bit more money and be more usage consious.

17. rallyguy

Posts: 620; Member since: Mar 13, 2012

How do you save money?

21. Captain_Doug

Posts: 1037; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

Dollar something for gasoline? Maybe in the early 90's.

30. items17070

Posts: 70; Member since: Dec 20, 2011

last time i saw gas at $0.99/gas was summer of 1999

12. I_Slap_Fat_Kids

Posts: 40; Member since: May 04, 2012

LOL, that's what Craigslist is for.

9. iShepherd

Posts: 38; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

These carriers don't care about heavy data users. Their capped plans are designed to catch even light data users. Assume a 5gb plan: If you use 100 mb one month and 5.1 gb the next month, you just paid more for your data than someone who used 4.9 gb each month for both months.

7. BuckeyeCadet86

Posts: 78; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

Thank you Verizon, you just made my rezound worth a whole lot more for resale

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