Vatican says that the recent Confessions app for the iPhone won't forgive sins
posted by John V. / Feb 10, 2011, 1:45 PM
Recently, we reported about an app which is approved by the Church that basically walks you through the sacrament – described by the developers as a “personalized examination of conscience for each user.” Simply using the app won’t totally forgive you for your sins according to the Vatican because they issued a clarification regarding the app’s purpose. Director of the Holy See Press Office Rev. Federico Lombardi said in a statement, “One may not speak in any sense of confessing via iPhone. Sacrament of Penance necessarily requires the relationship of personal dialogue between the penitent and the confessor and absolution by the confessor present. This cannot be substituted for by any information technology application.”
If true forgiveness is something you’re seeking, then you just might want to take a trip to your local church and go through the actual process of confession with a priest. Just don’t start thinking that your nifty iPhone can be substitute as a replacement.
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If your sins aren't forgiven via app how do you know that your sins are forgiven when you confess in a confessional? Cause some guy who's touching little boys says so? Can't you religious people repent on your own why do you need someone to confess too?
posted on Feb 10, 2011, 1:57 PM 4
No where in the Bible does it say anyone must confess to a Priest. It only says that you have to confess your sins to the lord and ask forgiveness in his name. The Catholic Church is only trying to control all those that follow it. Always wanting to control all aspects of a persons life. Dont tell me that God will only accept your confessions through a Priest, a person that has notoriously been know to molest little children and also known to worship saints, which is also wrong because your only supposed to worship God. I speak to God personally, I dont need a middle man.
posted on Feb 10, 2011, 2:34 PM 6
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I don't see why it maters anyway. According to the bible, only God can forgive sins, so it looks like even the Vatican got it wrong. A priest or pope has absolutely ZERO power to forgive sins. I don't get why Catholics think that a man can do what the bible claims only God can do. it makes no sense to me.
posted on Feb 10, 2011, 2:41 PM 3
I think the reasoning is that only God can forgive your sins, but only a priest can deliver your sins to God. I dunno, I'm protestant so I don't know the Catholic rules on stuff...
posted on Feb 10, 2011, 2:54 PM 2
Not trying to convert anybody, but I WILL say that there actually is, in the Church's view, biblical evidence that God did grant the power of forgivness of sins starting with Peter and passed down through his sucessors (all popes since, and by extension, members of the clergy). NOT SAYING YOU HAVE TO AGREE WITH THE INTERPRETATION, again that last thing I want is a theological debate on Phonearena of all places, but this is a common misconception. I myself studied this when I went through a phase of Catholic doubt, if you will. Posting it would be a long drawn out process, however, so I won't bother with it. People tend to think the Catholic Church randomly invented a lot of it's practices, which really isn't the case if you read into it. The Church definitely has some black eyes, I won't deny that, but it's not the boogeyman people make it out to be.
posted on Feb 10, 2011, 9:05 PM 2
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Prove it. what's the chapter and verse where God gives man the power to forgive sins. Seems to me that would be a contradiction. Peter says in Acts 10:43, "To HIM (Christ) give all the prophets witness, that through His (Christ's) name whosoever believeth in Him shall receive remission of sins." And 1st Timothy 2:5, "For there is one God, and ONE MEDIATOR BETWEEN GOD AND MEN, the man CHRIST JESUS." So anything other than strict adherence to the actual words written is a contradiction and a sin. Sorry Catholic Church. You're all heretics. And that's a fact. Only Jesus can forgive sins though your repentance. Not the Pope, not a priest, not Mary, a woman not meant to be worshiped (idolatry), and not your grandfather who is dead in heaven. It's ridiculous how the Catholic church has misled and deceived so many people for so long. It's ok though, they'll be judged just like everyone else.
posted on Feb 12, 2011, 12:32 PM 1
Um...no. I'm not going to actually, didn't you read my post at all? I am NOT trying to start a theological debate, this is Phonearena. If you really care to find out, you can read Fundamentalism vs. Catholisicm by Karl Keeting, he gives a detailed breakdown of Catholic theology, yes WITH biblical verses quoted. I suspect you're not going to though; all you care to do is fan flames and beat your e-chest. You're no better than the hippies that claim 9-11 was orchestrated by the government. Besides, I personally don't care what you believe. That's the beauty of living in this country, we're all free to believe what we wish, and I personally wish good will towards all good men and women. So peace to you, even if you don't wish the same, cause that's the true point of all forms of Christianity, regardless of denomination. I just hope you realize that someday, That's all I gotta say about that. Back to actual phone articles...
posted on Feb 12, 2011, 1:20 PM 0
To the protestant.... you quote Peter's written words and yet you deny his verbal teachings? The teachings have been passed down through the ages though the Church that stemmed from Jesus through Peter. To the atheist/agnostics ....To those who don't believe that up to you... just quit the viscious remarks about all priests being molesters just because there have been a minority (how many non priest molesters do you think there been ... these people are like you so maybe we should all think you are one) Hey your neighbour could be a molester for all you know and that means all people are molesters? At the end of the day whatever you say there are millions of wonderful priests doing a heck of a lot more good than you guys spewing out this garbage. Grow up.
posted on Feb 13, 2011, 1:17 PM 0
As a bit of education for everyone... the teachings come from the gospel according to Matthew ch 16 versers 18 and 19 i think. Paraphrased.... Jesus built the church on Peter (which means rock) and gave the power to loose or bind inheaven that which is bound or loosened on earth. The pope of today is the succesor or Peter and through him and his priests does this work as it was done in the time of Jesus. It takes faith. It takes trust and it takes love. Of the 300 million americas it is said that there could be as much or even more than 25% that have suffered child sex abuse ...that's 75 million children. Now how many have been comitted by priests ... 100 .. . 1000 at the most? Of the 400,000 priests worldwide 1000 is about 0.25%! Stop condeming a church with billions of people for transgressions of a very small minority of sick individuals who proved by their acts that they do not belong to the Catholic Church nor are representative of it.
posted on Feb 13, 2011, 1:36 PM 0
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