Trying to rid YouTube of the far-right conspiracy peddlers, legit videos get axed by mistake

Trying to rid YouTube of the far-right conspiracy peddlers, legit videos get axed by mistake
Last month, we told you that YouTube was hiring 10,000 moderators to be part of its "Intelligence Desk" put in charge of finding controversial and inappropriate videos before they go viral. Corporations were finding themselves promoting videos with conspiracy theories and far-right leanings that got them in trouble with the majority of their customers who have a more moderate set of beliefs.

But the Intelligence Desk really didn't do such a great job following the school shooting in Parkland Florida earlier this month. Videos championed certain conspiracy theories that were based on the premise that the shootings were faked and that the survivors were "crisis actors" who show up at faked shootings across the country at the behest of liberals seeking to have the second amendment removed. These were the kind of videos that the 10,000 moderators were supposed to quash before they became sponsored by corporations whose customers were aghast after viewing these clips that are out-of-touch with any semblance of reality.

That the moderators failed in their job was seen by the fact that a particular video calling Parkland student David Hogg a crisis actor was the number one trending video on YouTube. Besides failing to prevent controversial material from reaching impressionable eyes, the moderators might have removed certain channels that while still "wide-right" to quote your typical NFL play-by-play man, still deserved freedom of speech protection. Pro-gun videos were also removed from the site.

YouTube realized that it went too far. In a statement, the streaming video site said that newer members of its enforcement team took down some content by mistake. YouTube's official policy says that "harmful or dangerous" and "hateful" videos can be removed. If a video creator has three violations within a three month period, YouTube will terminate the account.

Any video removed by mistake will be reinstated by YouTube.


source: Bloomberg, TheOutline

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58 Comments

1. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Those so called conspiracy theories are also someone's feelings and ideas. If there is a democracy non of those videos must be censored no matter what. Who is YouTube to decide what is and what is not a conspiracy theory??? They can do that only when they get politicized just like CNN. Media must not interfere with decision making for people, they just have to report. Their slogan should be "we report you decide". NOT "we report and we decide". So pathetic.

3. GreenMan

Posts: 2698; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

I quote: "Who is YouTube to decide what is and what is not a conspiracy theory?" End quote. Any sane person with the slightest of common sense can distinguish fact from fiction. And common sense suggests that the Parkland, Florida school shooting was no staged act (or Fake News, to be more crude) with dozens of surviving victims, hundreds of eye witnesses, dozens of police officers on duties with body cams, paramedical staff, news reporters and The SWAT team etc, all present at the scene of the crime. Guns kill people, no question about it. Now, some foolish person might say: "But... So do cars. Or trucks." And to that foolish person all I can say is this: Cars and trucks are primarily meant for transportation. To carry goods and passengers from one place to another. Guns, on the other hand, are supposed to spew bullets that tear through flesh. P.S Owner of a Mosin-Nagant that served in WW2.

5. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

No one has said Florida shooting was fake. No one said that ever! It was those media interviews conducted by liberal media outlets like CNN which was caught in that criticism. Guns don't kill people, people kill people. People kill people sometimes using guns. Guns primarily meant not to kill people like mosquitoes, but to protect people from other guns, to defend them selves from evil. A person who carries a gun can be a devil or a god. He can save lives or destroy lives. A gun is merely a weapon, it cannot think or shoot by it self.

17. iampun33t

Posts: 136; Member since: Apr 17, 2013

I agree that People Kill People but will completely disagree with your argument that "Guns primarily meant not to kill people.." Seriously? Then what are guns primarily meant for? Making calls? or Watching videos?

37. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

No. Guns are made primarily to protect people, families, villages, cities and nations from terrorists, robbers, killers and thugs. Bad people have changed it's purpose and that's the main reason their existence is vital in this day and age.

41. Awalker

Posts: 1982; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Guns are killing machines. That's their sole purpose. Whether it's used to kill terrorists, robbers, killers, thugs or innocent people is up to you - the individual with the gun. It's your choice.

38. AxelFoley unregistered

"No one has said the Florida shooting was fake" Wrong. Plenty of people have, including Alex Jones, a show in which the President has appeared. And, a show that has been warned by Youtube. Fox (Tucker Carlson) had to do an on-air applogy to CNN for peddling their fake news. "Guns don't people..." That is mostly true in Australia, Canada, Japan, Korea....well, pretty much any other industrialized country other than the US. As of March first, the US leads them in school shootings 18-0 this year, and that's because the teacher in Georgia missed when he fired in the school yesterday. A guy once said......"Take the guns first, then due process" - Donald J. Trump, yesterday. So, I'm starting to think you will soon evolve on the issue now that your leader has spoken. Maybe PA should start looking at you for your conspiracy theories. https://www.bing-amp.com/c/s/www.thewrap.com/why-alex-jones-is-feuding-with-a-17-year-old-school-shooting-survivor/amp/

45. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

WTH are you talking about....lol No one said that shooting incident was fake. No one. But the media interviews conducted mainly by CNN got some scrutiny due to scripting the narration allegations, from one of those students. Then some said one person who was portrait as a schools student was actually a paid actor who acted out according to the script provided by CNN. And that town hall meeting was a big indication of how much rage liberals have for the NRA and republicans in general. They didn't wanna talk solutions or whose fault is this but instead they all shouted like a bunch of 10 year olds saying "killer killer killer" to the NRA Dana Loesch. Even that incompetent Sheriff was there shouting with those scripted actors of CNN. What a hilarious mess that was....LMAO Guns kill people when they are in wrong hands. Other wise Guns are not made for the sole purpose of killing people just for fun. No. Without guns nobody is able to defend their selves in the modern society. Without guns everybody is helpless and has to solely rely on law enforcement to protect you and your family. Some people in America don't like that concept, that's why they prefer having guns in their homes. Trump went to Florida to ASAP to meet with victims and first respondents, then he had a very successful listening session with all the families of those victims at the WH and yesterday he had a bipartisan meeting with the members of the congress to find a comprehensive solution to this shooting problem. What president in the past have ever done all those things at once. And I'm sure Trump is not "all talk no action" president he'll get something done very soon to avoid such incidents in the future and people will love him for that. People like you always spread fake news and hatred. It's really hard for a descent society to function just because of stupid people like you.

46. AxelFoley unregistered

Piyath: WTH are you talking about....lol No one said that shooting incident was fake. No one "Jones, an opponent of gun control, has argued that school shootings, including the 2012 Sandy Hook killings and the PARKLAND SHOOTING IN FLORIDA, were FAKED to drum up opposition to guns. " Piyath's Credibility = 0 With all you hypotheses on guns, can you please explain why other countries don't have the same problem?

50. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Every other country on earth has this problem, you just have to look closely to see that. Until you meet your death face to face you'll say guns are evil but when your enemy is in front of you and your family holding a huge sword or a rifle you might wish if you had a Gun in your hand. Don't give in to the leftist media narration, every country has this problem. I'm not talking about some Sandy Hook thing happened in 2012. I don't know about it and if we are gonna talk about it I'll have to read something about that. I'm talking about this Florida incident. Don't change the subject when you are confronted with hard facts. That's hilariously cowed of you....LOLZZZ

79. AxelFoley unregistered

and the PARKLAND SHOOTING IN FLORIDA, and the PARKLAND SHOOTING IN FLORIDA, and the PARKLAND SHOOTING IN FLORIDA, and the PARKLAND SHOOTING IN FLORIDA, What part of this is too difficult for you to comprehend?

22. SYSTEM_LORD

Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

Guns kill, yes. But so do incompetent agencies like the FBI and the police who did nothing for years. That's the real story. Also, there have been several kids to come out and say that CNN scripted that town hall, stacked the audience with anti gun opinions, and hand-picked which survivors to highlight, all to push an agenda. It is not beyond the scum in the media and politicians to dance on and beat the drums of their own agenda over people's graves. PS YouTube moderation is trash, and Google is biased as crap.

32. Awalker

Posts: 1982; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

FBI and police did nothing because of the laws in place. The NRA protects people like that school shooter.

34. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

LOL That's another poorly scripted liberal narration I suppose.. ha ha haaaaaaaaaa

42. Awalker

Posts: 1982; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Call it whatever you want. He had a gun in his possession because of the NRA.

44. AxelFoley unregistered

Wrong. There has been 1 parent to claim that, who later admitted he doctored an email from CNN. FOX apologized after getting the actual email from CNN.. You are an exmple of how fake news spreads. http://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-sean-hannity-tucker-carlson-admit-falsely-accuse-cnn-parkland-town-823778?amp=1

47. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

That's a separate issue from the main cause of this article. There was an interview conducted by CNN using some people, who they called as students, who acted out so well according to the script provided by CNN. That was the allegation from Alex Jones in his video. I saw the incident which you are saying too and I accept that. But this is completely a different incident. This is about that "crisis actor" thing. People can have their own opinion. Nobody can verify who he was because 75% of the web sites in internet are liberal so they always defend the liberal narration. And also I think CNN went too far with all this media coverage in to this Florida shooting incident. They blamed NRA, Trump, Republicans for this but failed to mention how hard their beloved liberal Sheriff failed at his job. FBI failed to do their job, local police failed to do their job but in the end Trump should take all the blame?? wth

82. AxelFoley unregistered

Yes. CNN failed to mention the sherriff. That 40 minute drilling he got from Jake Tapper on CNN State of the Union didn't happen on your planet.

81. SYSTEM_LORD

Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

Wrong. The kids made the claims. That's what's important. They gave this guy questions to ask that weren't his own. They weren't interested in the opinions of students that weren't anti gun. You and CNN are the propagators of fake news.

85. AxelFoley unregistered

Talk to Tucker and Hannity. They retracted and apologized. Not me. The father also apoligized. Blame him too. They sent the question to CNN. CNN accepted it. The father then wanted to add to the question. CNN told him to go with the original question he submitted because the new one was too long. Father edits email from CNN and send edited email to Fox.

6. Whitedot

Posts: 832; Member since: Sep 26, 2017

I agree. Other question is why are they so afraid that a bunch conspiracy theorists exist on youtube ?

27. SYSTEM_LORD

Posts: 1168; Member since: Oct 05, 2015

It's because some of the stuff that will be moderated is true, and will be conflated with the crazy blind alley theories that are all over the place.

13. duckofdeath unregistered

It is not and never will be a corporation's or a person's responsibility to uphold freedom of speech by being forced to share videos or opinions they don't agree with. Your freedom of speech is protected in your constitution, in your elections. It is your freedom to say what you feel, it's not your right to have someone else forced to say it in your behalf. That is why moderation is necessary. Because the huge majority don't what lies fed to them disguised as news.

30. Awalker

Posts: 1982; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Google decides what videos to display on their platform. If you have a problem with any of their policies create your own platform to compete with it and display whatever you want.

35. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Then YouTube give huge incentives for firing their cash earning employees just like in private companies. Because YouTube earn a lot of money via their video creators. They take a huge cut from their ad revenues. They can't just ban people and just ruin their lives. And as a media company, private or Gov, YouTube has a huge responsibility to uphold the constitutional right of people. They can't violate fundamental rights like 1st amendment rights, which is the right to speak up.

43. Awalker

Posts: 1982; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Google can do whatever they want with YouTube that's not Illegal. If you have a problem with that create your own platform and display whatever you want. The First Amendment only protects you from the government, not a private organization or another individual.

48. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Google is also under the government's constitution. Even Bill Gates is under that. Nobody is above that. It doesn't matter private or Gov, every organization, company must obey their Government's fundamental rules. This is why google is going through a huge legal case with that young engineer who they fired just because he spoke his own mind. Let's see what'll happen there. My guess is in the end Google will have to pay that person a huge fine for firing him. That's how things work in a democratic world.

72. Awalker

Posts: 1982; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

You seem to have no idea what the Constitution does. It says what you the government can or can not do. It doesn't pertain to any other entity. What protects us from each other and private companies are federal and state laws. The engineer is suing based on a California state law that protects people from being fired because of their political affiliation.

83. AxelFoley unregistered

Please give your constitutional law expertise to Fox News, who banned commercials even after they were contracted and aired several dozen times. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2017/11/06/fox-news-stops-running-tv-ad-calling-for-trump-impeachment/?utm_term=.b48335f5cabf

51. AxelFoley unregistered

The first amendment applies to being silenced by the government, not being silenced by Youtube. You have no first amendment right to post on Youtube. Or, I suppose you will write an amicus brief for neo-nazis, klansman, and terrorist groups when they sue Youtube based on the first amendment. You continue to prove your idiocy with each post.

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