Though flattered, NVIDIA wants Apple to prove speed claim made during The new iPad's introduction
posted by Alan F. / Mar 07, 2012, 10:42 PM
outperformed the Asus Transformer Prime, an Android tablet using the quad-core Tegra 3 processor. Even though the Android 4.0 update might have sped up the Transformer Prime a bit, it most likely would still trail The new iPad's quad-core graphics processor and faster dual-core base.
The real challenge for Apple may come later in the Spring when the Samsung Exynos 5250 starts shipping with its ARM-Cortex A15 build and new graphics capabilities.
Will Apple hand over the actual benchmark tests that confirm the statement, and if not, will NVIDIA keep the pressure on Apple to discuss the comment? It is the type of delicate situation that could backfire for all involved. If Apple fails to prove the statement, it will look as if the tech titan handpicked the apps that ran during the benchmark testing to clinch a specific result. And if Apple does come up with proof that the A5X is as fast as claimed, it will hurt NVIDIA and those devices using the Tegra 3 that compete with Apple.
- Display 9.7" 2048 x 1536 pixels
- Camera 5 MP / 0.3 MP VGA front
- Processor Apple A5X, Dual-core, 1000 MHz
- Storage 64 GB
- Battery 11560 mAh
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This will be quite the show. I'm really wondering what the clock speed is on the A5X. Has apple even officially announced that or are we all going by rumored numbers?
posted on Mar 07, 2012, 10:51 PM 7
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I believe it is the same dual core as is in the A5...the only thing updated was the graphics hence the A5X instead of A6. Graphics were probably upgraded because of the resolution but the processor was already fast
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 6:58 AM 1
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I think there could be a Deformation case in the works by Nvidia. If Apple are smart, they should substantiate their claims asap.
posted on Mar 07, 2012, 11:02 PM 7
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defamation you mean. i think it is technically libel because it was projected on a screen and was typed into a document. the a5x does have much better graphics than the tegra 3, but apple should have shown some proof, or a reference or footnote. something.
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 12:22 AM 8
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Does it really matter? iOS still can't do what Androids can...Even if it ran 100x faster than the Tegra-3, iOS still can't browse the "full web" with flash, still can't do simple personalisation and still don't have real multi-tasking/task manager. It's like bragging you live in a 4 storey house with over 10 rooms, but you only live on one floor and use one room while the other 3 floors and 9 rooms remain untouched.
posted on Mar 07, 2012, 11:16 PM 27
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I agree with everything but the Flash part. Adobe seems to be moving away from mobile Flash support and the internet itself is moving away from Flash to HTML 5. So, that's going to be the real test of which platform is better at HTML 5.
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 12:37 AM 8
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Well yeah it is the future, but it's also the more upcoming future. I mean Adobe just stated in the past few months that they weren't going to support anything past I believe Android 4.0. That's part of the reason the Galaxy Nexus didn't have Flash initially because Adobe was putting a stop to it but then said that Android 4.0 would be it. So, if Android 5.0 is coming out this year then you are talking about HTML 5 support being the big thing.
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 2:18 AM 0
Why doesn't it matter what kind of horse power the new ipad has??? I you would know better all those dual and quad core cpu-s and gpu-s are used for what? Manelly games and apps,browsing the web and in small extent email. Just beacuse android has widgets and flash suport that doesn't mean its a better OS and takes advantage of multicore chipsets. And ios still has the best selection of apps and games. So just because you tweak your android phone doesn't make it better it just means that you have acces to you to your OS. Man you don't have any clue about technology your are just taking sides. Compare the benchmarks,games and apps where it really matters.Son
posted on Mar 11, 2012, 3:55 AM 0
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I doubt Apple can prove A5x has 4x performance compared to Tegra3...may be in gpu power...but definitely not in CPU...Tegra3 will be definitely better than A5x if someone can run optimized multi-threaded benchmark app on comparable devices.
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 12:11 AM 7
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Ok, I'm confused... are games even up to the level where any of this is going to matter? Is Apple going after the graphics trophy to divert our collective eyes from the fact that it won't top nvidia (or samsung or qualcomm) when it comes to processing? Last time I checked, the current bottleneck is on the CPU, not the GPU when it came to tablet gaming...
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 12:39 AM 5
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Hmm... so Apple threw in with a 4 core GPU, but still has forsaken a true multitasking CPU? Does this remind anyone else of the 'I Love Lucy' episode where she worked in the chocolate factory? And how well that turned out? (I bet The New iPad could be used to make a grilled cheese sammich' when it gets graphics intensive considering the screen resolution and size.) Apple has yet again reinforced my concept of their product strategy - it doesn't really have to do anything, just look good doing it. I guess their devices really are works of art.
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 2:29 AM 2
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"in benchmark tests, iPad 2 beat the transformer prime" ..IN GPU BENCHMARK TEST!! Not surprisingly since it uses the PowerVR SGX543MP2 graphics processor which we should know, is still the industry leader on a given resolution. But iPad3 has double of that GPU power - the same chip is used in Sony Vita (MP4) - but it has to deal with four times the screen resolution! And yet they basically say it somehow magically outperforms even the Vita which runs on 960x540 pixels! Only a true ignorant could buy that cr!p- apple clearly just manipulates the figures to twist the reality. I'm so disappointed in phonearena. It's a disgrace how apesh!t they went over all this iPad event.
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 4:11 AM 2
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Apple is such a joke for reasons lke this I will never buy apple. They straight lie to the customers and use word play to make there product sound better then it is. OOOOO new ipad with quad core graphic process. Customer says so that is better then my dual core processor right.. Answer no the ipad still uses a dual core proccesor its the graphics process that is quad core we just say it this way for the iclowns to feel they have something better. And now with the lying on ATT iphone showing they have 4g. which is not possible since you need a new radio for lte not new software. People are still going to be idoits and say im canceling vzw/sprint to go the the iphone on 4g. Dumb
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 9:24 AM 0
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I'm not convinced it will hurt either group really. People that want iOS arefar and wide not.concerned with having the biggest specs... people that care about specs enough to care generally don't have apple in mind Its 2 different mind sets on 2 different groups of people.
posted on Mar 08, 2012, 10:37 AM 0
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