Researcher says there will be no heating issues with the Snapdragon 820

Researcher says there will be no heating issues with the Snapdragon 820
Kevin Wang is the research director for IHS Technology China, and he took his to Weibo page (as is the wont in China) to tell manufacturers that it is safe to employ the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820 chipset on upcoming smartphone models. By now, you've heard all about the Snapdragon 810's propensity to overheat. Recently, tipster Ricciolo sent out a tweet stating that the Snapdragon 820 faces the same heating problems as the Snapdragon 810 does. But according to Wang, the four custom cores and 14nm process used on the Snapdragon 820 prevent the chip from running into issues with overheating.

Earlier this month, Chinese analyst Pan Jiutang posted on his Weibo page (natch!) that Qualcomm won't be shipping the new chips before December. Jiutang says that the Xiaomi Mi 5 will be the first handset to use the chip when it launches next March. Rumored to be coming the same month, powered by the Snapdragon 820 SoC, is the Asus PadFone S2. Sony and HTC are also believed to prepping handsets that will be powered by the new chipset.

Qualcomm itself says that the new chipset won't turn handsets into Easy Bake Ovens, but this really won't be known until the new chips are tested inside the devices they will be powering.

Thanks for the tip!

source: KevingWang (via Weibo) via GizmoChina

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45 Comments

1. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

SD 820 is coming next year, so LG G pro 3, nexus 2015 all will have SD 810/808. Bad news for everyone except Samsung fans/users.

2. TezzaBP

Posts: 274; Member since: May 18, 2015

How do you know it's coming next year?

4. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

I read article too fast, it was referring to previous article with "Qualcomm won't be shipping the new chips before December". But still chances look thin.

29. cheetah2k

Posts: 2256; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

820? No heating issues? Didn't Qualcomm say there was no heating issues with the 810 as well..?? LMAO

35. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

820 is 100% not coming to dec, due to limited benchmarks of the cpu, if it was out I out there be loads like the 810 by now, not going to happen Also they only just done that deal with Samsung, so it's going to take time to sort

5. Oğuzhan_77

Posts: 112; Member since: Nov 18, 2013

Evan blass said huawei nexus snd 820 ?

9. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Yes, he has history of false leaks. He said one m9 will have finger print scanner and there won't be any nexus 6 and android silver handsets will be launched.

7. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Such a bas news.. No SD 810 device returned for all Telus Canada for overheating or heating problems.. No lag or slowdown in any games and apps. This is such a bad news its killing customers.. Only idiot dont understand when ppl do propaganda. Sure the SD 810 trottle a bit more than its should but this by no mean can be felt by the user using it only benchmarking tools will see it. Did note 4 international version run bad? ( its was using a Exynos known for overheating ) Same for the international version of the S4 and S5 all had Exynos thats had bad overheating problem still the devices worked fine they just needed to lower max frequency. You could complain only if its would affect the performance really and if its made you change phone before your 2 years contract is over. As of now this phone ( HTC M9 ) Work perfectly well since i have it i play load of différents games on it and never felt the phone too hot to touch or any lag or slowdown ( after playing several hours of 3d games ) Sorry.

10. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Yes it won't overheat in Canada. Jokes part. SD 810 throttles the most and SD 801,805 are better. Note 4's exynos version actually ran cooler than Snapdragon's version. Overheating is not big issue but it drains power (battery) and throttles. After throttling performance is as good as 801, so why not buy device with 801 or better 805 or better exynos 5433 which are also cheaper.

16. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Hello again. I think a lot of people are waiting for some proofs from your side, aren't they?

38. Sidewinder

Posts: 515; Member since: Jan 15, 2015

Check anandtech for comprehensive and decisive test results

45. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

1) Anandtech claimed that Adreno 430 is sub-6W GPU. 2) I didn't see there any gaming tests, only synthetics which can be manipulated. 3) I saw throttling tests of E7420 vs SD810 vs SD808 vs SD805 on another resource which showed terrible Snapdragon 810 behaviour.

40. Shocky unregistered

You're just embarrassing yourself marorun. Sorry, but it's true.

14. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 688; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

How about Apple users? Apple's CPUs are quite powerful too. Since the A7, benchmarks see Apple's CPUs always in the top group. There is no reason to believe that the A9 will discontinue with this development. Apart from that I think that the Snapdragon 820 will fix the overheating problem. It is simply hard to imagine that Qualcomm would make the same mistake twice. I am pretty confident that the SD 820 will be a great mobile CPU. However, 2015 was a huge let down for non-Samsung and non-Apple users.

20. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Someone admithing Apple chips are powerful. Always hear they're 2 or 3 years behind.

37. TheBiz

Posts: 232; Member since: Apr 13, 2015

when some one says apple specs are 2012 they mean screen resolution, camera resolution and the wifi modems used well i personally have no problem with iphone as a phone infact i love its camera ,but its the greedy ios which i hate for binding customers to certain constraints

21. gustavoace

Posts: 187; Member since: Nov 13, 2012

I wouldn't say quite powerfull. "They're" GPU is quite powerfull, and they only get in top on browser benchmarks because they way safari works (and the whole webkit on iOS, see a XDA video explaining it). I'd be glad if they fix overheating, but they said almost the same about the 810 revisions.... I'm not so optmistic. I think they are pushing performance over power efficiency, and I rather like it the other way around... Even my outdated nexus 5 is fast enough for almost every task (except some games, but I don't play them too often).

36. nodes

Posts: 1159; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

CPUs used in Android are better only on multi-core, well yes they got twice the cores and mostly twice frequencies too it's not really surprising. only clueless peoples think that Apple's chips are outdated, they put the latest and most powerful chip on their latest phone every time. because of how iOS operates, it really makes sense that Apple focuses on single-core performance, even a high-end intel i5 chip on notebook/ultrabook is only dual-core(with 4 threads though). yes, iPhones maybe lack in term of screen resolution, camera resolution count, gimmicky software features, but not on hardware. their hardware are always top-notch. not to mention all other 64-bit chips are still struggling with overheat or throttles much, yes including Exynos in Galaxy S6/Edge it's just not as bad as SD 810. A8's performance is more consistent. just read Anandtech's review about Apple's A7 and up.

23. jalebi2000

Posts: 181; Member since: Mar 01, 2015

what about the kirin 940/950? Maybe the kirin will be used the big nexus, and the small one could have a 808.

27. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Even kirin won't be ready, 940 has T860MP4 I guess which won't perform even close to T760MP8, nor T880MP4 in 950 will. But 950 definitely not this year, 940 might possible.

34. jalebi2000

Posts: 181; Member since: Mar 01, 2015

some sources do claim that the first kirin 950 device will be the MATE 8, which is supposed to launch on Sep. 2 :http://www.tbreak.com/huawei-mate-8-will-most-likely-feature-kirin-950-expected-2nd-sep/ here are the release dates:http://www.proandroid.net/news/image/2015/03/kirin930-50.jpg

3. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1354; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

So, what will Samsung employ in its next SoC? a 64bit Big.Little hex core, 10nm process SoC running at 2.0Ghz? it seems that QC just got leapfrog and has no response yet for the Exynos 7420. By the time QC realeases the SD820 the new Exynos will be out.

6. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Next chip could be custom cores or improved 7420 or 4 x A72 cores + 4 x A53 cores on 14 nm LPP, by Samsung. 10 nm will be early 2017 at best. And most probably exynos will outperform 820.

13. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Exynos only beat SD 810 because of crappy 20NM built used. at 14 nm its would be as good if not better. Only reason SD got lower benchmark is because its heat a bit because when its not trottled its as fast for the CPU part and MUCH faster for GPU. Sadly nothing can use it on android for now and a few year... Dont live in a dream world.

18. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

I know it is sad for you but Snapdragon's GPU is SLOWER than Mali of Exynos. I have proofs, you not.

26. jalebi2000

Posts: 181; Member since: Mar 01, 2015

it wasn't actually the 20nm's fault, apparently sources claimed it was a fault in the adreno 430. And by the way, the Adreno GPU throttles nearly as much as the SD 810. The SD 808's gpu has no GPU throttle, and no cpu throttle, so it may have been the GPU in the first place.

28. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

20nm Exynos 5433 performs much better than 20nm SD 810. Also it came like 6 months before SD810.

41. Shocky unregistered

CPU and GPU is faster on Exynos 7420, even when not throttled Snapdragon 810 it's still slower. I don't understand how somebody who visits a technology news site often can be some clueless. I'd link too benchmarks but I know you live in a make believe world, lets not let facts get in your way.

8. det_bradlee

Posts: 162; Member since: Jun 08, 2015

E7422 already going into Note 5's

12. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

I guess it would be improved 7420, I was talking when 820 will come, so most probably next MWC (March 2016).

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