Snapdragon 810 delay rumors emerge again as the chip's heading towards the Samsung Galaxy S6 and LG G4

Snapdragon 810 delay rumors emerge again as the chip's heading towards the Samsung Galaxy S6 and LG G4
Here's another round of rumors about the Snapdragon 810's production delays, which Qualcomm will probably dismiss in a beat. That was the case last time, and not long after, LG went ahead and announced its LG G Flex 2 smartphone - powered by the 64-bit octa-core beast and coming to the market next month. Naturally, this made us more confident that Qualcomm really is ready to deliver as much of its flagship silicon as it says in the contract, but the Korea Times' report begs to differ.

A trio of J.P. Morgan analysts from South Korea claims that the Snapdragon 615 and 810 processors are overheating, with the problem being especially present in the latter, whose Cortex-A57 cores reportedly heat up excessively when their frequencies go past the "barely there" 1.4 GHz stage and enter "performance beast" mode. According to Geekbench results, this causes a "serious throttling problem" that severely limits graphics performance. In addition, the 810's clock rate was reported as lower than the current generation Snapdragon 805, and memory controller problems were present as well.

Thus, the analysts believe that Qualcomm and manufacturing partner TSMC will have to delay production by a quarter, spending an additional month prototyping and re-designing metal layers on the chip, and an additional two completing the final product's metal layer mask. This means the chip won't be in circulation until May 2015 at the earliest. This is quite concerning, as the report claims that both the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S6 and the LG G4 will be using the Snapdragon 810. This is hardly surprising, but it shows how the industry will be impacted by Qualcomm's inability to deliver the processor on time. 

While nothing stops Samsung and LG from announcing their flagships as planned, it could take longer than expected before they reach customers' hands. Meanwhile, Qualcomm's Chinese partners, such as Xiaomi, could opt for powerful processors from MediaTek and NVIDIA, while Samsung might be giving its own Exynos 7 Octa chips a run. So we'll have to wait and see what the future spells for Qualcomm and its dominant grip on the mobile processor market.

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1. zhiae unregistered

i would like this to happen hahahaha dont blame me im android guy i want to see the competition.

2. vishalaestro

Posts: 81; Member since: Dec 08, 2013

i do know that the desire 820 which has snapdragon 615 heats up lnsane. and at the end apple's low clocked better architecture seems the way to go.

10. rantao333

Posts: 346; Member since: May 21, 2013

seems like only apple know how to develop armv8 architecture mobile chip without issues. even ARM own designed core has so much issues and canot face the market up until now. i doubt samsung exynos 7 which is using ARM"s designed core will have no issues, lets hope qualcomm come up with their own design.

17. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Lol... Exynos 7 (5433) has no critical overheating issue with the same ARM Cortex A57/A53 at almost the same clock speed and manufacturing process node. It's a fail for Qualcomm.

22. TyrionLannister unregistered

The exynos 7 on note 4 has absolutely no heat issues. In fact, it heats up less than and doesn't throttle like snapdragon 805. Also the 14 nm technology is ready at samsung's plant so the 7420 will most probably be 14 nm. That will even increase performance. Samsung knows how to use big.LITTLE now after initial failures in s4 and note 3. The galaxy alpha and note 4's exynos chips have 0 issues and insane performance. P.S. I own ipad air 2. So I'm not a samsung fanboy or so. The A8 and A8x are awesome but the 5430 and 5433 are great too. It's qualcomm who's lagging.

40. Iodine

Posts: 1495; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

The exynos in galaxy note 4 has disabled 64-bit processing, maybe beacuse of those heating issues. Maybe enabled 64-bit processing makes snapdragons overheat and also makes exynos 7 late (same chip as 5433 but with 64-bit enabled)

50. TyrionLannister unregistered

64 bit doesn't afftect TDP that much. It can't be it.

43. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Is it me, or does the white Note 4 get hotter vs the black one. Because mines gets pretty hot under heavy load.

49. TyrionLannister unregistered

Do you have exynos?

24. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1176; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

You're lost. Samsung already use the A53/A57 64bit Cortex cores in the Exynos 5433 in the Note 4 (N910C and N910U) with no heating issues. Exynos 7 will be the same.

45. sorcio46

Posts: 435; Member since: Jul 27, 2011

Exynos 5433 is running in 32bit mode (AArch32) that's why it hasn't heating issues. We'll see what's next when Lollipop with its AArch64 ready ART (Android RunTime) will kick in ;-) Source:http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1666545 (Geekbench 3.3.1 for Android AArch32) When it will be used at its full capabilities it will be way hotter :D

47. thegeneral7010

Posts: 437; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

in my opinion exynos 7 octa is the best processor working on android in 2014 the only problem of exynos is using mali GPU they should use abetter one istead.

53. Arcetnathon

Posts: 2; Member since: Jan 06, 2015

What GPU should they use ? There is a difference between benchmark world and real world. Mali GPU are good in real use, not benchmark. Look at the last Gamebench post on Asphalt 8. Exynos : Median FPS : 55 S805 : Medan FPS : 42 BUT, if you prefer having great numbers on Antutu, you should take Snapdragon :)

54. thegeneral7010

Posts: 437; Member since: Dec 10, 2014

why cant i take both :) . also i remmeber that samsung announced that they are gonna make there own GPU hope if that was right.

3. darkskoliro

Posts: 1092; Member since: May 07, 2012

I'm really not a fan of the big little architecture. I believe that well designed and optimised 4 cores would mitigate a lot of issues that big little tries to solve.

7. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

How ??? The entire silicon valley with all their experience and IQ of over 160 can't figure out the solution which you seem to done so.

16. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

If you look at Qualcomm since the SD800 came out, performance was there, but they always suffered from throttling issues. Same with Exynos and Tegra, if you read Anandtech. Apple is the only chip designer who seems to be able to sustain performance. That leads me to believe that big.little and quadcores, in phones, are only great in benchmarks.

23. Like-A-Sir

Posts: 67; Member since: Jan 08, 2015

why wouldnt it, the pathetic os is light weight, and does not need much power to run this fake multitasking, stupid os. apple os runs in darwin, light weight os, android is a full blown os.

52. Booza

Posts: 15; Member since: Dec 19, 2014

It's just not about OS, How about demanding graphics app & game? Pathetic

18. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

"Universal" cores can't be as good as "special" cores designed for concrete tasks.

36. Like-A-Sir

Posts: 67; Member since: Jan 08, 2015

so 4wd is a faLIURE

4. Kruze

Posts: 1285; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

What about the Xperia Z4? WIll it have Snapdragon 810 or maybe Tegra X1? But please, don't give us Snapdragon 805.

11. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

yeah i really wish it is not equipped with S805 also but also not with a 'bugged' S810 If you want the truth, i am being sure that it will equip a 4 GB RAM more than that it will equip S810 but i really wish it has any other processor than the S805, and mediaTek of course i hope that it comes like we want

19. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1176; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

4GB RAM does not mean S810, the 805 supports 4GB RAM to.

5. silencer271

Posts: 254; Member since: Apr 05, 2013

The guy in the snapdragon shirt is a iphonearena writer I bet.

6. tech2

Posts: 3487; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

That's just a logo photoshoped on a random picture.

8. jove39

Posts: 2147; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Since qualcomm has not admit this issue, such articles should also incorporate the fact that rival groups might be behind these rumors.

9. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

What about the G Flex 2 being released at the end of the month? Would be very bad publicity for both Qualcomm and LG if they had the severe problems described here.

12. mitoita

Posts: 77; Member since: Apr 03, 2014

how the f**k snapragon have thats problems and samsung dont have this heating isuues with exynos 5433 ( the same cpu cores ). snapdrogon is behins exynos processors in this moment....

14. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

well it is a bit of shame to admit that :o hope they solve it quick !!

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