Samsung plans on appealing the verdict of the second patent trial

Samsung plans on appealing the verdict of the second patent trial
Even though Apple was awarded just $120 million after seeking $2.2 billion from Samsung in their latest patent trial, the latter manufacturer still plans on appealing the verdict, in an attempt to bring the award down to zero. John Quinn, a lawyer for Samsung, says that the verdict was "unsupported by evidence." The jury ruled that out of five patents that Apple claimed Samsung had infringed on, three were indeed used by Sammy without permission. Apple was found to have infringed on one Samsung patent, and ordered to pay its rival $158,000. The amount of the jury award to Apple was the eighth largest in the U.S. this year and the fourth largest for a patent trial.

Apple and Samsung can now each file with the judge, a request for a sales ban in the U.S. on products that were found to have infringed on the other firm's patents. Apple had been seeking $2.2 billion from Samsung while Samsung had filed a cross-claim for $6.2 million. In the first trial, Apple was awarded $930 million.


source: Bloomberg

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38 Comments

1. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Yeah, true! It should be 120$ only not million

19. flipjzn

Posts: 257; Member since: Jun 22, 2012

Or a bigger fine? Lol Good luck Samsung :)

2. ajac09

Posts: 1482; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

Id just had pay it raised cost of dealing with apple and get my lawyers in place for the bigger battleground.. in the sales department.

3. NokiaFTW

Posts: 2072; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

Will this Apple vs. Samsung drama ever end?

7. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

Yes, when the Apple is rotten and Sam is tired of singing song.

33. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

When will this patent troll company plummet

29. Altair

Posts: 367; Member since: Feb 02, 2012

It will end as soon as Shamesung stops stealing. It is as simply as that.

34. Arte-8800

Posts: 4562; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

Lmfao The patent troll company which every tech sites and every Oems in the world knows that Apple steals what belong to others The company that wants no Oems to succeed Apple hates competition Apple loves dictatorship Everyone wants democracy So sad to know that Apple has inclined you like them

4. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Samsung has a long history of stealing and copying and fighting/delaying in courts, finally settling after years when they've gotten all the benefits of stealing and copying. In a nutshell, Samsung's business model is: 'Infringe First and Stall as Long as Possible' http://www.vanityfair.com/business/2014/06/apple-samsung-smartphone-patent-war

6. fzacek

Posts: 2486; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

There are things about technology that should be shared instead of patented and claimed. Samsung usually doesn't copy other OEM's, they just use the technology that is available to them, just like any other manufacturer would do.

11. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

I guess you missed that huge document Samsung made about the iPhone and how to copy it? While what you say may be true in some general sense, Samsung definitely ripped off Apple and copied many things about the iPhone, about how Apple advertises, how Apple does marketing, etc. All of which basically resulted in massive profits for Samsung. IMO, the biggest negative of how things work now in the "first to file" patent system is that many small businesses are no longer viable, due to the high costs of related to patents/IP. These big giants may fight and fight, but the real casualties are not in the news.

14. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

"IMO, the biggest negative of how things work now in the "first to file" patent system is that many small businesses are no longer viable, due to the high costs of related to patents/IP." First-to-file benefits the large, established companies who know all about a particular technology. Their scientists can predict where opportunities exist for new innovations and can pre-emptively file. First-to-file does not require the patent application to provide a working prototype, so there is no bar for filing a bunch of patent claims that tie up potential applications of a particular technology. One step forward and two steps backward, IMO.

21. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Strongly agree. Big business legislated a huge tilt of the table in their favor with "first to file". In the bigger picture, big business basically killed one of the fundamental pillars of the American dream -- the ability of the individual to utilize "Yankee know how" to make something new and receive the benefits of doing so.

20. willard12 unregistered

I guees you missed "good artists copy, great artists steal."

12. wilsong17 unregistered

Wait you mean to tell me my note 3 who is 5.5 inch is a copy of the iPhone

17. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Actually…. If Apple does in fact produce a large-screened (5.5 inches, anyone?) edition of the iPhone, they arguably are infringing on a Sammy innovation. I wonder if Sammy managed to file a design patent on the phablet concept?

26. Napalm_3nema

Posts: 2236; Member since: Jun 14, 2013

Huge difference between similar sizes (5.5" iPhone and a Galaxy Note) vs completely copying trade dress (iPhone and Galaxy S).

15. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Keep saying that and law will keep finding that apple also has a long history of copying/stealing... read the full story, it says apple also found copying/ infringing samsung

22. Lt.Green

Posts: 397; Member since: Mar 13, 2014

+1 The article from Vanity Fair was so one sided, Apple is no better.

24. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

In the big picture, I am no fan of Apple. But in this particular case, or set of cases, it seems pretty clear that Samsung ripped off Apple, lock, stock, and barrel.

23. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

And if you read the Vanity Fair article, you will see how Samsung uses its own patents as part of the "stalling" process.

25. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

And as if it is hidden & no one knows how apple uses/trolles its patents?

27. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

One cannot look at every right/wrong in the same court case. Maybe it would be better if we could. But we can't. And unfortunately due to changes in the US patent system where it is now "first to file", we will see eventually thousands, if not millions, of terrible patent lawsuits for things that should never have gotten a patent in the first place. Take for instance, Amazon patenting a basic photo studio setup that has been use for over 40 years. http://www.dpreview.com/news/2014/05/06/did-amazon-just-patent-the-seamless-background-setup

30. engineer-1701d unregistered

And apple has a long history of copy and steal everyone and then sue them saying they made it and did it first. Samsung won this one but still apple needs to know there place and be shutdown to stop them from killing off smaller company's and not paying for things they use Samsung's 3g pattern was said to not matter because its a frand pattern and company needs it to sell anything but apple tries to sue anyone that has a rectangular phone saying they came up with it f you apple your company is doomed to fall again like the 90's

5. fzacek

Posts: 2486; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

I wouldn't really have a problem if both companies just banned each other's products and stopped producing them. Just saying...

9. xperiaDROID

Posts: 5629; Member since: Mar 08, 2013

Then it will be the rise of Sony, LG, HTC, Oppo etc. Huehuehuehue...

8. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Of course they are going to appeal. I am 100% certain that Apple would appeal too! They are going after the holy grail. Ban all possible forms of competition. Its just business. For an average consumer like me its still value for money.

16. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Yes, I care about value for money not about whoes patents are infringed

28. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Not really. If there is one producer of a quality good and no substitutes, and high demand, then you will likely end up more value for your money. What you are talking about is price, i.e. the ability for some company to make cheap knock-offs, as Samsung did. It is only recently that Samsung has succeeded in copying Apple so completely that even their prices are close to the same.

38. Ashoaib

Posts: 3309; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

You are a fool or just sounds fool? "Succeeded in copying apple so completely" so apple has dotted pattern back cover? Super Amoled screen? removable back cover? 13/16mp camera? 2gb/3gb RAM? Memory card expansion? Removable bettery cover? Andriod with touchwiz? 5.1 or 5.7 inch screen?..... wah wah wah, no doubt thats really a complete copy

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