Global consumers shun Huawei phones online; Samsung and Xiaomi benefit in some markets

Global consumers shun Huawei phones online; Samsung and Xiaomi benefit in some markets
The fears of eventually losing updates to the Android operating system and Android apps are turning consumers away from Huawei phones. Just the other day, we told you about declining sales in Europe and Asia and today we passed along the results of some number crunching done by a couple of analytical firms. Fubon Research and Strategy Analytics forecast a 4% to 24% decline in Huawei's shipments this year, although making such a forecast is akin to playing pin the tail on the cheetah using a real cheetah. In other words, this is a fluid situation and any forecast might have to be updated constantly to reflect the latest news.

And now, as Reuters reports, it appears that the Huawei backlash is affecting interest in the manufacturer's currently available handsets. According to U.K. price comparison site PriceSpy, clicks on Huawei products online dropped in the U.K. by nearly 50% over the last few days, and by 26% on a global basis. The site collects data from its customers in Finland, France, Ireland, Italy, New Zealand, Norway, Sweden, and the U.K.

PriceSpy noted that consumer's reluctance to check out Huawei phones helped Samsung and Xiaomi the most. Those companies had a 13% and 19% increase in clicks, respectively. The manufacturers whose phones garnered the most online attention in the U.K. this past week were, in order of popularity, Samsung, Apple, and Huawei.

Trump gives Huawei some hope that it can return to business as usual

Huawei was the second largest smartphone manufacturer in the world during the first quarter, surpassing Apple and trailing only Samsung. The company was expected to take over the top spot from Samsung next year, a goal that probably won't be reached barring some type of deal between Huawei, China, and the U.S. Last Thursday, Huawei and 68 affiliates were put on the Commerce Department's Entity List, which prevents the company from obtaining parts and components from the U.S. without a license from the U.S. government. The Trump administration gave the company a short reprieve, as did Google, but yesterday's news that U.K. chip design firm ARM Holdings will shun Huawei could be the coup de grace. Without a license to use ARM's designs, Huawei will have a hard time creating its Kirin chipsets.

Yesterday, President Donald Trump gave Huawei some hope that it might be able to resume business as usual when he said outright that the company could be used as a bargaining chip in the current trade war between the U.S. and China. The president could offer to remove the company from the Entity List in exchange for some concessions from China in a new trade agreement.

Apple is also getting hit in China with some fallout from this situation. Consumers in the country, which is the largest smartphone market in the world and remains very important to Apple, have started to turn their back on the iPhone like never before. Many have taken to social media in China to post how they have dumped the iPhone in exchange for one of Huawei's new high-end models. While many in China are now said to be embarrassed to pull out an iPhone when everyone around them owns a handset made by Huawei, support for Apple has come from an unusual place. Huawei founder and CEO Ren Zhengfei said the other day that the "iPhone has a good ecosystem and when my family are abroad, I still buy them iPhones, so one can’t narrowly think love for Huawei should mean loving Huawei phones." 



1. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

I hope some resolution to this situation will come out. I want to continue to see new innovations Huawei is doing in phone photography. Well, why not US totally ban Huawei in US and let them do business elsewhere? Why not both countries settle on 10% to15% tariffs on each other's products and call it a day? Why US is getting butt hurt and creating problems for everyone in the world? I am not American, nor chinese. I don't want my choices to get limited due to ridiculous trade war between two nations. I love chinese products for their diversity and don't want any to be taken away from my opinions list. Trump is using American power to suppress other countries. Current world situation is making America looking like what hitler was doing with other countries in the past. That's totally a sad moment of time.

5. Fred3

Posts: 517; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

US isn't butt hurt, Trump is butt hurt. Majority of the US is against him and anyone who says that's not true is as delusional as him,

9. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Your point is totally valid and understandable. In fact your point is the reality but the problem is this that same Trump is running the country at the moment. He is the president. Whatever he is doing, doing it on behalf of the power given by the might of USA. How we can separate America from its president and it's government? How we can assume that Trump is a separate entity, government is a separate entity and then USA is sperate from both? It cannot be called as delusional because these things are linked to each other. Usually the wrong doings of the leadership is blamed on the country. For example, china is usually mentioned as a communist country(because it is, pseudo communist/capitalist). We don't say that "only chinese president or the government is communist and rest of China is not". No one says that we will put sanctions only on north Korean leadership because it is bad but there will be no sanctions on the country because country as a whole is good. Why we don't do this? Because country takes the blame.

21. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 107; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

China is butthurt and so is Huawei. Trump is AWESOME !!!

22. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Bro you again? Basically you are butthurt. Not china, not Trump ;)

12. BlackhawkFlys

Posts: 914; Member since: May 07, 2014

So, suddenly Huawei will no longer be a security threat if trump gets a better trade deal from China... The National security threat is just a hoax to get sweeter trade deals? That's a dirty business tactic.

14. Shubham412302

Posts: 577; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

They have never been a security threat. They gave their network component's source code to other companies for inspection few time already and no backdoors were found. It's just the trade war between US and china.

15. dimas

Posts: 3363; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

So that's why they don't want to give their emui source codes and let 3rd party devs customize their phones? It's easy to give your system's source code for inspection then bring back whatever you want after the process. You're an adult, you know these shenanigans can be done by any company right? Inspections are scheduled, dev activities are 24/7 and huawei don't want their emui getting inspected everyday.

30. TheOracle1

Posts: 2258; Member since: May 04, 2015

When Apple give the ios source code and allow 3rd party developers I'll agree with you. Until then stfu.

28. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 107; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

Dude,please stop saying America is doing things like Hitler. That's just a stupid, insulting, ignorant statement. And do you really believe that Huawei and the Chinese government aren't in cahoots with each other? This is not just about trade. It's also about all of Huawei's networking equipment having back doors for the Chinese government. But I also believe that are leveraging that into the trade war which is wrong.

31. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Now thumps up to you bro. Now you are talking the right way. I appreciate it. We can easily agree on something while disagreeing on other without fighting. I understand your point. Calling or comparing outright with hitler is wrong. Let me explain the reason for such comments. Maybe it is not apparent to you or it offend you because people from different regions have different views and they take different sides. Current world situation is suppressed in many ways by American might. This is what I see, maybe that is not your reality and you believe that US is doing the right thing. Maybe Huawei is a national security threat to USA. But it is not to us. That's why I said that US can totally ban Huawei in USA but let them do business else where. So far what US have done against Huawei, is showing some ulterior motives. It is not just about security or intellectual property. If someone thinks that it is for security then they are narrow minded in their approach and they just want to believe what their establishment want them to believe. They should broaden up their thinking and should try to put bits and pieces in to place with neutral minds. Then they will realize that there is something more to this whole situation. Putting tariffs on free trade is a good thing if free trade hurts local economy. US has every right to do it and but playing politics by using propaganda against a tech company is surely creating a disrespect against US in the mind of common people like me which has nothing to do with these trade wars. Because American decisions are going to effect us as well although we are totally not a part of this US china affairs. So how not we will condemn US? About back doors, nothing is found so far which can really prove it about Huawei. This belief is based on assumptions and inconclusive investigations. Where as Cisco was found many times having back doors in the networking equipment. Below report of The Register for reference:

2. oldskool50

Posts: 1491; Member since: Mar 29, 2019

I am praying and hoping, China answers by banning ALL product exports made by US companies in China. Especially sin e America makes far and away more products in China that any other country. Because the reason it costs to export goods from China is because of a US Trade debt they agreed too where China absorbed Trillions of dollars in US debt, to help make the Yuan more equal to us dollars so that exports to US would be cheaper. What China should do is unabsorb that debt and make the US pay it, which is now almost $1.2Trillon. Trump is stupid. What's gonna happen is, all US goods from China, are gonna go up. Which means cheap stores like Wal-Mart where more than 70% of their products are made in China, will see huge increases in costs. Which cause Wal-Mart to start closing stores as a measure to stave off costs. But if China bans all exports, America will be in some serious trouble.

7. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

No please. That will have a very bad consequences for general public. It will effect china and chinese people too, as well as other countries. It is not good for common people. There should be some other solution. I hope some miracle happen with Trump and he will wake up from the bed, totally a changed person.

16. dimas

Posts: 3363; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Hey gumball, that's what china did that's why this trade war happened. They think western countries all depend on chinese sales so they get too egoistic and put big taxes on US exports. Trump is just as shady as chinese govt. officials.

23. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

In which world you are living in? US put the tariffs first. We know that how it all started. Please don't try to change the facts. Anyway it is not bad to put tariffs on free trade if it hurts local economy. I am with US for putting tariffs. But I am against US for banning a tech company.

19. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 107; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

Trump is stupid? It sure looks like Huawei is the one that's going to be in more trouble everyday. AWESOME

20. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 107; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

And I hope that America cancels all China imports. Who needs that crap anyway. Go TRUMP !!!!

24. Ashoaib

Posts: 3282; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

See bro? Read back your comment. I told you that you are a senseless person. Got the proof? Such an immature statement from you.

27. ScottsoNJ56

Posts: 107; Member since: Oct 01, 2017

Please go away. Leave my country alone. You have no clue. Just a butt hurt jealous little boy!!

26. vgking9699

Posts: 194; Member since: Mar 01, 2019

You do realize that America has the biggest upper hand as intel is an American company therefore technically with trumps new law, America could band all other countries from using any and all computers that use intel processors and ARM too is technically a USA company and can also be banded from foreign companies If America did this to China, China wouldn’t have any computers left cuz they are all intel or ARM and owned by America

3. pogba

Posts: 110; Member since: Jun 13, 2018

with all the negative press recently, of course its bound to happen. f**k security risks, they're trying to clip the wings of a fast growing chinese dragon. The american government knows that huawei was soon going to overtake everyone including google and apple and provide serious competition to the american companies on their home turf. Such times we live in. But as they say, its not personal. its just business.

6. Fred3

Posts: 517; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

Huawei might just have to look towards Tsinghua Unigroup, Yangtze Memory Technologies or other Chinese chip company's to stay around but hopefully their OS can will run well.

8. chris2k5

Posts: 247; Member since: Nov 17, 2012

Huawei phone prices dropped 50% in most cases over the last week. Lmao.

10. amir1999 unregistered

Just look and see what Trump is doing to this world, what he's doing to the people... He is a threat for any nation, including his own. Just see what he's doing to my country, to my people, to Iran. By putting sanctions against Iran and it's regime, he is only making the people's lives harder, not the regime. You don't know anything about us. People of the world, this is an important message from your friend, don't let this guy ruin the world by his stupidness. Don't let this guy continue. Let's get together. All prayers and hopes for the world to become a better place. For Peace ✊

17. dimas

Posts: 3363; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Well, your country also have shady nuclear silos undeclared to UN. You're singling out 1 politician when in 1979, your radicals breached US embassy and made hostage of 400+ diplomats. And you expect UN should trust your country with your extremist leaders? Clean your blind clergy leaders first before asking for world's trust.

11. rabramson2443

Posts: 48; Member since: May 12, 2018

So Huawei then, in fact DOES NOT REPRESENT a security risk to The United States? Make up your mind, Mr. Trump. Oh and by the way... I thought the Republican party slogan is "limited government involvement." It's unfathomable that one person can wield this type of power.

13. BlackhawkFlys

Posts: 914; Member since: May 07, 2014

Mr. Trump is the Modi of the United States

18. dimas

Posts: 3363; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

He's more like that monkey in madagascar. You got better deal? Deposit them in my account then we're good.

25. alcheng

Posts: 27; Member since: Nov 10, 2012

while all other countries are following the "rules/restrictions" set by the US, they should acknowledge they are in fact progressively helping US to build the future tech world into a monopoly state which favorite the US. Which, eventually, will turn into a disaster.

29. Plutonium239

Posts: 1212; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

If Chinese companies actually innovated instead of reverse engineering other countries technology or outwright stealing it, China could have a legitimate role in future technology. China has been behind since gunpowder technology left China centuries ago, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. Sure, they will have knockoffs but nothing as good as the real deal.

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