Results: Face ID doesn't exactly have a full vote of confidence

9. Cat97 (Posts: 1380; Member since: 02 Mar 2017)

It's not the Face ID that drives the phone price up, its the trapped Apple customers. The Face ID system costs $16, as revealed from the iPhone X component price breakdown. And the R&D was already done, Microsoft had it in Xbox Kinect and still has it in Surface Pro 4 and Pro 2017, Surface Book, etc.

10. bigdawg23 (Posts: 465; Member since: 25 May 2011)

Also Samsung S8. Liked the feature but not the phone.

17. neela_akaash (Posts: 1239; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)

FaceID is absolutely not more secured than TouchID. Thousands of WAX Sculptors in the world and 3D Printers can accurately replicate anyone's Face....

21. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Once they've got a 3D map of that face. How likely is that? Face ID, fingerprint scanner and Iris scanner are all more than secure enough for pretty much every person out there. The only question for each is how reliable are they.

31. neela_akaash (Posts: 1239; Member since: 05 Aug 2014)

Most WAX Sculptors doesn't require full 3D Map/scan of anyone's face. They just need some photos to create the exact replica...

33. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

I doubt they could get a replica from a 2d picture that would do the job.

32. Phullofphil (Posts: 1691; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)

And some dust and a piece of tape can get your fingerprint. Or as in Beverly Hills cop so does super glue.

37. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

But simply grabbing the print like that won't work for the FPS.

35. Phullofphil (Posts: 1691; Member since: 10 Feb 2009)

Face ID is more secure than Touch ID mathematical wise but not for certain situations. Like twins and vip. You should not use either if security is that much of an issue. Use the number log in. But hey any one of these can be broken because The number log in is the backup option when you can’t get Face or finger right. That can be had with a camera while watching you log in. The I phone is secure enough that the fbi can’t get in but really if somebody had your phone and did not have you around to force you to put in the code than software wise there is always sombody that can get some info on the internet and or find sombody to bypass all that stuff and get into your phone. I am pretty sure that nobody is going to make a sculpture of me and jack into my phone. To do what as she’ll. To get is theft you can get other info out there to do the same thing. This whole fiasco about the Face ID has more to do with who like Apple and who is buying into these articals. It’s a very small percentage. Small enough that you don’t need to worry about it. If you do than you wouldn’t be spilling comments on phone arena because you would have more things to worry about. Also if you got that much secure info that you think sombody wants on your phone than you need to be smarter on how you store that info. Because like I said if sombody wanted to get into any smartphone out ther (and I mean all) then they could figure out some way.

23. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

It's ironic to hear someone like you talking about a display being proven best scientifically, when folks like you couldn't accept the results from displaymate the past 3 years. From people who insisted that 312 PPI was all you needed, and you couldn't see a difference beyond that.

14. hemedans (Posts: 732; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)

Apple bought primesense and develop face id. same Company microsoft used to create kinect.

Since 2015 microsoft has Face verification feature same as face id in their device like surface pro 4. i cant understand why people keep saying it will take time for Apple competitors to implement technology like that. Ist Apple the one who play catch up here?

18. kiko007 (Posts: 7331; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

Honestly, I don't care who's playing catch-up and who's leading the pack. It doesn't really matter in the end anyhow.

25. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

No, it doesn't. As long as you can get the device you want, who cares what anyone else has?

36. kiko007 (Posts: 7331; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)

Exactly.

11. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 1330; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)

Your logic is flawed and makes no sense.

46. Blazers (Posts: 634; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)

Learn proper grammar and spelling please.

6. Klinton (Posts: 1406; Member since: 24 Oct 2016)

Well Touch ID(FPS) is nothing if only to unlock the phone. Real use is for payment. And Apple wasn't first.
But anyway, not Apple, but Samsung made the best Pay system.

PS
How FaceID is the future, when with FPS you can do it without to put it to the face?

13. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 1330; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)

We've had face unlock for 5 plus years, yes I understand Apple has implemented better technology, but it hasn't really caught on or been popular yet. Now Apple is forcing it as the only biometric lock.

Personally I don't like the idea of picking my phone up and holding it at the right angle to my face to unlock it, I also don't like having FPS located on the back of a phone. The FPS in a home button like Apple and Samsung had is the most convienent IMO.

19. midan (Posts: 1783; Member since: 09 Oct 2017)

"Personally I don't like the idea of picking my phone up and holding it at the right angle to my face to unlock it"

Personally i don't think anyone likes that, that's why Samsung face scan been total failure.

With face ID you don't need to adjust your phone, forget the whole face ID and just use your phone like you did before and let the Face ID does the magic for you and it will work!, that's why people like it so much.

30. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Yes, you do. Apple has already stated that.

38. midan (Posts: 1783; Member since: 09 Oct 2017)

No you don't, usually when im out and unlock my phone i take phone out of the pocket and look down, it opens every single time right away when the screen goes on. I don't need to think face ID it already did it's magic when i start using my phone.

42. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Hmmmm, now who should I believe? Apple, the company that makes faceid, or a fanboy online? Tough call.

47. gehrig (Posts: 423; Member since: 17 Apr 2014)

Apple literally made a point that you DON'T have to hold your phone a crazy angle to unlock it. Just hold it like normal, look, and swipe.

48. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

And then, when the first reviewer stated it worked only part of the time, they informed him he needed to hold it a certain way. BTW, they also made a point that it couldn't be fooled by a mask, and was more secure than Touch ID, yet masks, twins, sons and people who look similar have defeated it.

26. tedkord (Posts: 16752; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

That Apple copied it, just like they did face ID? Yeah, I remember that too.