Results: Face ID doesn't exactly have a full vote of confidence


When Apple revealed its newest iPhone — the iPhone X — together with its complete lack of a fingerprint reader and the new face-scanning Face ID to take its place, eyebrows were raised and shoulders were shrugged. Apple insisted that the new biometric scanner is ultimately more convenient and very secure — there's a one in a million chance that there's a random person somewhere in the world who can unlock your phone with their face, Apple said.

Fair enough, we thought. But what if we are not looking for a random person, but actually try and replicate a particular face and try to break into their iPhone X? We've seen such tests — using twins, masks, and other attempts to trick Face ID. And some have, allegedly, succeeded.

All that said, we do recall a time when hackers were also spoofing the Touch ID fingerprint scanner by making dummy fingers to trick it. Sure, if an evil-doer has the time, know-how, and resources, no phone is 100% safe. But, being the new kid on the block, we thought we'd ask you what you think of Face ID. Here's how that poll went:

Do you trust Face ID to keep your phone secure?

Not in the slightest!
46.32%
I have my doubts it's completely secure, but I'd still use it
32.32%
I have no issue trusting it completely
21.36%

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52 Comments

1. torr310

Posts: 1708; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

In the beginning, I voted No for its security. For a second thought, I think it should work OK in most cases in daily life. But still, a Finger Print Scanner is much more convenient and secure, also won't drive the phone's price up that much.

9. Cat97

Posts: 1983; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

It's not the Face ID that drives the phone price up, its the trapped Apple customers. The Face ID system costs $16, as revealed from the iPhone X component price breakdown. And the R&D was already done, Microsoft had it in Xbox Kinect and still has it in Surface Pro 4 and Pro 2017, Surface Book, etc.

10. bigdawg23

Posts: 467; Member since: May 25, 2011

Also Samsung S8. Liked the feature but not the phone.

17. neela_akaash

Posts: 1239; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

FaceID is absolutely not more secured than TouchID. Thousands of WAX Sculptors in the world and 3D Printers can accurately replicate anyone's Face....

21. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Once they've got a 3D map of that face. How likely is that? Face ID, fingerprint scanner and Iris scanner are all more than secure enough for pretty much every person out there. The only question for each is how reliable are they.

31. neela_akaash

Posts: 1239; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

Most WAX Sculptors doesn't require full 3D Map/scan of anyone's face. They just need some photos to create the exact replica...

33. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

I doubt they could get a replica from a 2d picture that would do the job.

32. Phullofphil

Posts: 1832; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

And some dust and a piece of tape can get your fingerprint. Or as in Beverly Hills cop so does super glue.

37. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

But simply grabbing the print like that won't work for the FPS.

35. Phullofphil

Posts: 1832; Member since: Feb 10, 2009

Face ID is more secure than Touch ID mathematical wise but not for certain situations. Like twins and vip. You should not use either if security is that much of an issue. Use the number log in. But hey any one of these can be broken because The number log in is the backup option when you can’t get Face or finger right. That can be had with a camera while watching you log in. The I phone is secure enough that the fbi can’t get in but really if somebody had your phone and did not have you around to force you to put in the code than software wise there is always sombody that can get some info on the internet and or find sombody to bypass all that stuff and get into your phone. I am pretty sure that nobody is going to make a sculpture of me and jack into my phone. To do what as she’ll. To get is theft you can get other info out there to do the same thing. This whole fiasco about the Face ID has more to do with who like Apple and who is buying into these articals. It’s a very small percentage. Small enough that you don’t need to worry about it. If you do than you wouldn’t be spilling comments on phone arena because you would have more things to worry about. Also if you got that much secure info that you think sombody wants on your phone than you need to be smarter on how you store that info. Because like I said if sombody wanted to get into any smartphone out ther (and I mean all) then they could figure out some way.

2. toukale

Posts: 669; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

LMFAO with the result of this survey on this site. So, now we want to take the results of a survey from this site as gospel. This is the same site who took down the iPhone X display article being the king of displays because most on here could not handle it, despite scientific method proving so. let me LMFAO again.

23. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

It's ironic to hear someone like you talking about a display being proven best scientifically, when folks like you couldn't accept the results from displaymate the past 3 years. From people who insisted that 312 PPI was all you needed, and you couldn't see a difference beyond that.

3. kiko007

Posts: 7521; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

To me, it's just like when TouchID was first introduced. Remember, that first week almost every security firm in America was trying to hack TouchID and one particular group succeeded relatively early. The ramifications of said successful hack? None. No one has capitalized on the method for rendering TouchID useless. This is a similar case with a few caveats. I personally think that for a first attempt, it's a decent implementation compared to offerings from the competition. It'll get better next generation when the tech improved a bit, but overall, I can't say I feel alarmed by any particular hacking methods. They all take far too much effort for stealing a phone, no thief worth their salt would waste time stealing something so cheap anyhow. What's that... government hacking? Why the hell would I be worried about that? I'm pretty sure they have all the Intel on me they can get anyway, being paranoid won't change that. All in all... I know it's not TouchID safe yet. However, I expect it to get closer by next year, and hopefully they can get rid of that notch on top of it.

14. hemedans

Posts: 761; Member since: Jun 01, 2013

Apple bought primesense and develop face id. same Company microsoft used to create kinect. Since 2015 microsoft has Face verification feature same as face id in their device like surface pro 4. i cant understand why people keep saying it will take time for Apple competitors to implement technology like that. Ist Apple the one who play catch up here?

18. kiko007

Posts: 7521; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Honestly, I don't care who's playing catch-up and who's leading the pack. It doesn't really matter in the end anyhow.

25. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

No, it doesn't. As long as you can get the device you want, who cares what anyone else has?

36. kiko007

Posts: 7521; Member since: Feb 17, 2016

Exactly.

4. GdgetXpert1337

Posts: 117; Member since: Oct 31, 2017

Every1 love FaceiD actualy, just not fanboys on this websight, so poll abslutely useless

11. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1588; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

Your logic is flawed and makes no sense.

46. Blazers

Posts: 767; Member since: Dec 05, 2011

Learn proper grammar and spelling please.

5. cnour

Posts: 2305; Member since: Sep 11, 2014

FaceID is the future. I remember what Android lovers said about TouchID few years ago!!!!

6. Klinton

Posts: 1409; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

Well Touch ID(FPS) is nothing if only to unlock the phone. Real use is for payment. And Apple wasn't first. But anyway, not Apple, but Samsung made the best Pay system. PS How FaceID is the future, when with FPS you can do it without to put it to the face?

13. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1588; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

We've had face unlock for 5 plus years, yes I understand Apple has implemented better technology, but it hasn't really caught on or been popular yet. Now Apple is forcing it as the only biometric lock. Personally I don't like the idea of picking my phone up and holding it at the right angle to my face to unlock it, I also don't like having FPS located on the back of a phone. The FPS in a home button like Apple and Samsung had is the most convienent IMO.

19. midan

Posts: 3131; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

"Personally I don't like the idea of picking my phone up and holding it at the right angle to my face to unlock it" Personally i don't think anyone likes that, that's why Samsung face scan been total failure. With face ID you don't need to adjust your phone, forget the whole face ID and just use your phone like you did before and let the Face ID does the magic for you and it will work!, that's why people like it so much.

30. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Yes, you do. Apple has already stated that.

38. midan

Posts: 3131; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

No you don't, usually when im out and unlock my phone i take phone out of the pocket and look down, it opens every single time right away when the screen goes on. I don't need to think face ID it already did it's magic when i start using my phone.

42. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Hmmmm, now who should I believe? Apple, the company that makes faceid, or a fanboy online? Tough call.

47. gehrig

Posts: 423; Member since: Apr 17, 2014

Apple literally made a point that you DON'T have to hold your phone a crazy angle to unlock it. Just hold it like normal, look, and swipe.

48. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

And then, when the first reviewer stated it worked only part of the time, they informed him he needed to hold it a certain way. BTW, they also made a point that it couldn't be fooled by a mask, and was more secure than Touch ID, yet masks, twins, sons and people who look similar have defeated it.

26. tedkord

Posts: 17482; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

That Apple copied it, just like they did face ID? Yeah, I remember that too.

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