Samsung's next generation chips could improve the battery life of the Galaxy S9

Samsung's next generation chips could improve the battery life of the Galaxy S9
Samsung said today that it is ready to start mass producing chips using the 8nm Low Power Plus process. The 8nm LPP node fills a gap between the 10nm process used last year and most of this year, and the 7nm process expected to be employed in 2018. Samsung says that it is ready to increase the production yield to stable levels thanks to the lessons it learned with the production of 10nm chips. During the summer, there already was talk that the Samsung Galaxy S9 could end up powered by an Exynos chipset produced with the 8nm LPP process.

Compared to 10nm Low Power Plus chips, the 8nm LPP takes up 10% less area inside a device, and at the same time it consumes 10% less power which saves battery life. Samsung does count Qualcomm as a client, and the company's Senior VP RK Chunduru says that 8nm LPP will quickly start rolling off the assembly lines since it uses the already proven 10nm technology for production. While it might be easy to manufacture, the 8nm LPP chips outperform the components made using the 10nm process.

Samsung will release a roadmap revealing the availability of 8nm LPP and 7nm EUV chips during the Samsung Foundry Forum Europe event that is being held today in Munich. The EUV next to the 7nm stands for the extreme ultraviolet lithography technology used by Samsung. This technology create the integrated circuit design found on a microprocessor chip. Originally not expected to produce 8nm LPP chips until the first quarter of 2018, Samsung will be first to ship them. GlobalFoundries will launch chips produced using the 7nm process in the first half of 2018 with the assembly line picking up speed in the latter half of the year. Those chips won't show up in mobile devices until 2019.


source: NDTV

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24 Comments

1. redmd

Posts: 1902; Member since: Oct 26, 2011

SD 845 for 2018? It will be ripe for the S9/+.

23. Klinton

Posts: 1408; Member since: Oct 24, 2016

Well, Apple is working on 6nm now, and ultra-super-dupper-AMOLED-RETINA-MY A$$ -rainbow color display. Right? So ?

24. antonmassoud

Posts: 89; Member since: Oct 22, 2016

Apple is working? Lol

2. Beijendorf unregistered

Any guess as to when these 8nm crisps will find themselves in launched devices?

3. Cat97

Posts: 1728; Member since: Mar 02, 2017

The 8nm is a great process, because looks to be already mature using the proven 10nm tech, and some midrange phones may also use the 8nm process if the yeld is good enough.

4. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

Yeah, and I'll be impressed of we get so see 1nm... Damn, how fast technology improves!

21. MaryPoopins

Posts: 324; Member since: Jan 15, 2015

1nm not happening any time soon :( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5_nanometer

5. torr310

Posts: 1619; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Qualcomm's next Flagship will use even smaller 7nm process from TSMC, not Samsung.

7. Rampage_Taco

Posts: 997; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

Samsung will be using 8nm and 7nm by next year. They don't consider QC a client as stated in the article, and so be it, They are the largest chip manufacturer in the world.

6. mikehunta727 unregistered

Amazing

8. Zack_2014

Posts: 677; Member since: Mar 25, 2014

Funny how technology is. They could achieve a more powerful performance on a small silicon than a larger one.

9. Rampage_Taco

Posts: 997; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

on the contrary, they could achieve more powerful performance on a larger slate of silicone, however in a world where consumers want phones with larger batteries and memory, the manufacturers have to reduce the size of their chips to prevent them from making phones too large

10. apple-rulz

Posts: 1875; Member since: Dec 27, 2016

Huh? So at the semiconductor fab you work at, the goal is towards larger feature sizes? Please explain that to me.

13. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1511; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

Larger cores are more power, the manufacturing process of 10nm is the distance between transistors. 8nm with the same number of transistors is physically smaller, but they could give it a larger core consisting of more transistors to improve performance but power consumption would increase as well.

16. Rampage_Taco

Posts: 997; Member since: Jan 17, 2017

Not sure what you don't understand, Chip manufacturers work to make smaller boards with similar or greater power with a smaller footprint. However if they were to use the same tech on a larger board they would have greater performance. So a smaller one isn't necessarily more powerful, just more powerful then older larger ones

19. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Just ignore that uneducated troll

11. Hollowmost

Posts: 414; Member since: Oct 10, 2017

Samsung semi conductor is bigger than Intel .....

12. Hollowmost

Posts: 414; Member since: Oct 10, 2017

At this point, Samsung and TSMC are ahead of Intel with their "10nm" process, vs Intel 14nm, but behind with their "14nm". When Intel release their 10nm process, they will command a big lead in terms of transistor density vs the competition "10nm". 14nm comparison Intel 14nm - MTr/mm2 43.5 (Current) SS 14nm - MTr/mm2 32.5 (Current) TSMC 14nm - MTr/mm2 28.2 (Current) 10nm comparison Intel 10nm - MTr/mm2 103 (2018) TSMC 10nm - MTr/mm2 60.3 (Current) Samsung 10nm - MTr/mm2 52.8 (Current) It won't be until the release of Samsung & TSMC 7nm when they retake the density crown vs Intel 10nm. Samsung 7nm - MTr/mm2 127.3 (2018) TSMC - 7nm MTr/mm2 116.7 (2018) Intel 10nm - MTr/mm2 103 (2018) So as you can see, Intel will be behind for a good few years.

18. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

And customers will never care about "transistor density"

14. chenski

Posts: 738; Member since: Mar 22, 2015

What happens after it reaches 2nm?

15. Hollowmost

Posts: 414; Member since: Oct 10, 2017

Nanotech

17. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

But nm is nanometer. It's already nanotech since 2014 when intel reach 90nm transistor size.

22. pendragon0202

Posts: 164; Member since: Feb 23, 2015

Wouldn't it be pico meter after nano meter?

20. worldpeace

Posts: 3092; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Samsung will use that 8nm for flash memory chips first, processors manufacturing can wait

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