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One M10 leaks on HTC website, sample shot hints at 12 MP camera with wider aperture

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HTC One M10 concept image

HTC One M10 concept image

HTC is wisely taking its time to release it next flagship, dubbed tentatively the One M10, as if it announces it now, the news will drown in the reviews tornado of the Galaxy S7 gang or the LG G5. HTC is not expected to unveil its next best thing until later this spring, but a confirmation of the One M10 naming scheme has already popped up on its site, in a web survey's HTML code, as you can see in the screenshots below. 

What's even more interesting is an alleged photo sample from the One M10, which, as one HTC exec put it, will feature a "very, very compelling camera experience." That stellar camera is rumored to be a 12 MP unit now, just like on the iPhone 6s or the Galaxy S7, and sport a larger aperture, as well as laser autofocus. Thankfully, the random picture you see below (of a keyboard of course, what else), is accompanied by the shot's EXIF data, which confirms an f/1.9 aperture. 

The One M9 has a run-of-the mill f/2.2 lens, and, while f/1.9 isn't up to par with the Galaxy S7's wide f/1.7 aperture, the One M10's eventual f/1.9 value is nothing to sniff at either. What miffs us a little bit is that the resolution is listed as 2250 x 4000 pixels, which is a 9 MP shot in a 16:9 format, but that could be, of course, just one of the camera's shooting regimes, and we wouldn't be surprised to see a 12 MP resolution when we go into 4:3 format indeed. 

In any case, the smartphone camera wars are shaping to be unprecedented this year. Between the S7's large 1.4 micron dots and Dual Pixel autofocus, the LG G5's dual wide-angle camera, the Xperia X-series Predictive Hybrid Autofocus, and who knows what Apple will come up with for the iPhone 7, HTC has to indeed come up with a compelling camera experience, and it seems that the manufacturer is pulling out all stops to do just that.

source: TechTastic.nl (translated)
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posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:16 4

1. MrElectrifyer (banned) (Posts: 3960; Member since: 21 Oct 2014)

Wish HTC could copy Samsung's camera. That's been a major drawback in all their SmartPhones; the camera.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:33 20

4. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2975; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)

No boomsound hurts

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 05:11 5

15. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)

No M7 design hurts.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 15:46

29. LionStone (Posts: 844; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)

You do realize that BoomSound and dual front speakers are 2 different things? Because Dolby Audio BoomSound is still present on the A9.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 16:37 1

30. NoToFanboys (Posts: 2975; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)

Oops sorry, I mean boomsound speakersss, kinda busy watching youtube on my M9 lol

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:53 4

6. WPX00 (Posts: 462; Member since: 15 Aug 2015)

As far as we know, HTC is using the Nexus camera: Sony IMX377, a 12MP sensor with even bigger pixels (1.55 vs 1.4um) than the IMX260 used in the S7, though it won't have the dual pixel autofocus.

posted on 02 Mar 2016, 13:40

31. willy42 (Posts: 36; Member since: 02 Mar 2015)

I thought I had read that they were going to the use the new OV13880 sensor with 4 micron pixels.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 08:26

21. rubyonrails3 (Posts: 320; Member since: 01 Oct 2014)

HTC will have better Sensor than S7 do you know that? I means bigger sensor which is always better. its I think 1/.23 sensor size vs 1/.25 or some says s6 have 1/.26 sensor. HTC really need is post processing which is great on Nexus only when HDR is on.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 08:36

24. Macready (Posts: 1493; Member since: 08 Dec 2014)

A 22% larger sensor for 22% more light, but the S7 offers a 40-50% larger aperture for 40-50% more light. Net result is that the S7 should be a hair more capable in low light in RAW, ceteris paribus (usually isn't).

posted on 06 Mar 2016, 01:06

32. CoryMeetsWorld (Posts: 170; Member since: 17 Oct 2014)

Wrong again Macready

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 13:41

26. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

My HTC one X+ was a killer for camera much better than same year samsung product..

So in the end its only since the M7 M8 M9 thats camera got bad..

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 15:37

27. LionStone (Posts: 844; Member since: 10 Dec 2010)

Why? Sammy already copied HTC camera UI with the circular tabs

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:28 6

2. Arschsalat (banned) (Posts: 158; Member since: 29 Feb 2016)

watch the Samsung Galaxy S7 vs iPhone 6s Camera Test Comparison Video from SuperSaf TV

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:47 1

5. hoomanPeasants (unregistered)

The S6 camera was average at best, and even that beat the iPhone 6s. What else did you expect?

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:57 13

8. TerryTerius (unregistered)

I'm not really sure why you believe the camera on the s6 was average. There objectively weren't many phones that could match it, especially not in auto mode. And nearly everyone that reviewed the S6 said the same thing.

There are a few that could produce images of equal or arguably better quality (depending on the scenario) with manual controls, but IMO that doesn't really factor in daily usability.

Still, to each their own. I'm not knocking your preferences, or at least I'm not trying to. Just curious what phones you thought had better cameras. But yeah, this was predictable.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 04:03 1

9. hoomanPeasants (unregistered)

S6 had great daylight pics, average lowlight pics, great audio, horrible video, nice controls and auto mode, no pro mode, and the video stabilization sucked donkey balls. It was inconsistent across, great in some, average in others and horrible in stabilization.

I'm not saying it had a bad camera by any means. In fact, I don't think any other camera other than the G4 could come close to it in the first half of 2015. But after seeing what the Nexus 6P produces, S6 does look average at best.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 04:24 1

13. TerryTerius (unregistered)

To an extent I would agree with you about lowlight. Though I'd disagree about video stabilization. I'm not really a believer in manual controls for smartphones primarily because I have a D750 for real photography but I am aware that I'm an exception rather than the rule, and I fully understand why that makes a difference in the eyes of many.

But yeah, the 6P does have a damn good camera on it so I can see where you're coming from.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 04:33

14. hoomanPeasants (unregistered)

The video stabilization was so bad on S6 that they had to add a completely different system on the Note 5/edge+.

I'd post a link to prove it, but I can't(I'm a newbie and can't post links yet). But if you want to see it, see erica griffin's review of Note 5(start from 47:50 and see for about 1.5 minutes).

And keep in mind that Note 5's stabilization isn't that good either. So S6 is worse than it appears here.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 06:14 1

16. fyahking (Posts: 963; Member since: 28 Jan 2015)

The 6p video recording is even worse than the s6.lol

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 07:27 1

20. TerryTerius (unregistered)

I'm only saying that having owned the S6 edge for most of last year before switching to the 6P. I never had any issues with video stabilization. Then again, I have fairly steady hands from working with real cameras all the time so maybe I'm not qualified to speak on that on the behalf of other people.

In any case, I don't remember it being anything close to unusable or terrible at its job. But yeah, I do remember her mentioning her issues with that. All the way back to the note 4. And I do know the stabilization on the 6S plus is better then the S6 edge was, but not by much.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 08:31

22. Supraman21 (Posts: 393; Member since: 09 Jun 2010)

Are you telling me that you've never experienced that jelly vision you get when panning or even slightly moving the phone?

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:30 4

3. promise7 (Posts: 891; Member since: 03 Jul 2013)

That photo doesn't look too compelling to me. Very cloudy, dull, and faded looking.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 03:54

7. jesus_sheep (Posts: 279; Member since: 18 Apr 2015)

That phone looks just like the s7. iPhone last year. Samsung this. Next year?

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 04:03

10. johanbiff (Posts: 414; Member since: 31 Mar 2015)

Hope it has smudge on the lense because it look like crap :\, was really ruting for HTC this time but comon!

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 04:06

11. Reza.N (Posts: 77; Member since: 06 Sep 2015)

Hope all you guys just wait for the final product and the official announcment..I hope htc do it right

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 06:16

17. fyahking (Posts: 963; Member since: 28 Jan 2015)

This is their 4th m series, so I'd hope they get the camera right this time. If not, then I believe this is the end for HTC.

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 04:17 1

12. yoosufmuneer (Posts: 1518; Member since: 14 Feb 2015)

Good to see more and more manufacturers abandonding the Megapickle race

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 06:49 1

18. BLSEOTB (Posts: 334; Member since: 24 Mar 2015)

I really want boomsound back

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 07:24

19. KeyserSoze (Posts: 144; Member since: 06 Oct 2014)

Again with the goddamn iPhone aesthetics. Can't stand the look of goddamn iPhones, they're plain, ugly, and outdated. HTC can fock off if they keep using the iPhone's sht looks!

posted on 01 Mar 2016, 08:36 1

23. rubyonrails3 (Posts: 320; Member since: 01 Oct 2014)

Cuz people says A9 looks like iPhone doesn't means it really is.. I had both A9 in black color and iPhone 6s Plus(currently have). A9 was more attractive, even display on A9 looked more sex. only thing I didn't like about A9 front was fingerprint sensor which was great reliable but its bit under the body of phone so sometimes you miss to press it.. Overall A9 was far far better looking than iPhone. those antennas even looked better on A9.. People around me also liked my A9 more than iPhone 6s plus. also screen feels like have curve edge which some call it 2.5D but its less pronounce on iPhone and A9 in black had really immersive look and feel. When I had A9 I had 4 phones, Nexus 6p, Moto X pure and iPhone 6s plus. again A9 looks better than all.. I had S6 and Note 5 too.. and in comparison yes S6 edge looks bit more sexier and unique but then A9 is even better looking than Note 5 or S6. of course looks is subject stuff. I like it and you might not. but many people looked it and liked better so I assume its really better looking device than others. BTW camera I didn't like at all on HTC One A9, I'm still fan of Nexus 6p camera and iPhone camera really sucks its great in day light when outdoor but when you indoor it takes crappy pictures.. A9 just need a powerful processor UI was very smooth better than my Moto X pure, but Web had few stutters so I'm sure a powerful SoC will solve the issue. only time I really felt phone is slow is when you first time set it up.. I guess its NAND not so great.. Battery is less than average though. but call quality was better than anything I've owned this year..

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