Nvidia shows off Tegra 5 running Battlefield, bashes iPad for its “vintage 1999” graphics

Nvidia has some huge plans for the future and it has just shown what mobile graphics will look like when the Tegra 5 (codenamed Logan) with their Kepler GPU arrives. In an extremely impressive demo Nvidia’s chief executive Jen-Hsun Huang showed Kepler powering a fully functional Battlefield game.

Huang went back and forth between the upcoming Tegra 5 and the latest iPad’s A6X chip which right now has the best graphics in an ARM-based mobile device that we know of. The difference was staggering and enough for Huang to bash it for having “vintage 1999” graphics.

The Kepler graphics support DirectX 11 and handled themselves very well with high-dynamic range lighting and active shadows in the Battlefield demo.

“We want to get multiple years ahead of the competition,” Huang said. “It was worth the sacrifice.”

Let’s remember, though, that there is still a year until the Nvidia Tegra 5 arrives as even the first Tegra 4-based devices are not out yet. But if we get to play Battlefield and games alike, the patience would definitely be hugely rewarded.

source: Nvidia via Venture Beat



1. baldilocks

Posts: 1542; Member since: Dec 14, 2008

2015 isn't now. I'm sure the competition will be pretty much at the same point by then.

2. cyko969

Posts: 49; Member since: Mar 23, 2010

that or have something even more powerful by then ... my guess is this is probably for windows and android based tablets

4. TheLolGuy

Posts: 483; Member since: Mar 05, 2013

Yeah maybe, but then again maybe not. At least in the realm of the GPU, it's NVIDIA's specialty. They might not compete with the sheer processing power of Atoms at the point of it's release, but could very well be the crowned mobile GPU king. Qualcomm bought Adreno from AMD, but some of the main talent already left the company to create their own company where they license GPU technology kind of like Imagination Technologies. It seems to me their main rivals will be Imagination Tech and this new startup from ex-Qualcomm employees. If they can stay ahead, they can claim the crown for at least best GPU tech.

5. hisaak

Posts: 19; Member since: Apr 12, 2013

It took ages for Nvidia and ATI (now AMD) to develop their current GPU cores. If Nvidia is able to integrate them somehow into their Tegra line, nobody is able to keep their pace.

18. downphoenix

Posts: 3165; Member since: Jun 19, 2010

Not necessarily true. PowerVR is the company that makes the Iphone/Ipad GPUs and when the Sega Dreamcast came out, it had a PowerVR GPU that was literally more powerful than what PCs had at the time (bare in mind, although we got the Dreamcast in 1999, it came out in . Of course, PowerVR dropped off from the desktop market after a while and got a resurgence in the mobile market these past few years. They may not have the history that nvidia does, but they have more experience in the mobile field.

3. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

Great news for the Nvidia Tegra 5 and all, but I don't know... I just don't really plan on doing any kind of serious gaming on a mobile device. At least not for the foreseeable future. I guess peripherals and accessories to make a better gaming experience could change my mind, but at that point you kind of have a console to which... I'd rather just game on a console. I'm fine with vintage 1999 graphics, for now at least. With Sony and Microsoft seemingly pushing for a world of always-online console gaming... I could probably be swayed to game on a mobile device however if it were taken into consideration that people want to play but may not always have access to a network. Wouldn't that be some Bizarro world - if LTE/WiFi devices are the only way to have offline play?

6. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

In 2 years, we could be able to buy a phone with 1TFLOP or more GPU..in 3 years, they should surpass the Xbox 720 and PlayStation 4.

8. chaoticrazor

Posts: 2347; Member since: Aug 28, 2012

really.......you do know that microsoft and sony's game consoles will always be better for gaming and ahead you keep trying to insist they will be left in the past but its bs

10. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Why, another reading lesson for you! I was referring to the processing ability. Purely technical standpoint. Coming from the fact that Imagination Technologies already announced the series 6 PowerVR GPUs with "over 1TFLOPS" for the highest performing version, and since the upcoming consoles will be able to reach about 1.8TFLOPS

9. TheLolGuy

Posts: 483; Member since: Mar 05, 2013

Don't be stupid. The Tegra 4, which isn't even out yet by the way, comes out at around 80. PS4 is at 1800. They'll be passing the last-gen console's power in the near future since they were rated around 200 gflops, but PS4/XBOX(3)?

11. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Tegra 5 will go over 200 TFLOPS early next year.. and 3 years is a world changing time in mobile tech world. Besides, like I said the IT's series 7 (3-4years from now))is what you should look ahead for.. they are the leaders in the mobile GPU space.

27. faisolbauuz

Posts: 121; Member since: Jan 05, 2013

200TFLOPS ? You mean 200GFLOPS ? Even the gtx titan doesnt reach 10TFLOPS you know

28. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Of course, that's what I meant. You can see in my previous comment that I know what a TFLOPS is :p.. (a thousand billion(tera) floating operations per second )

7. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

By the way, the iPad demo was a bad bad joke. It is capable of a far and beyond better graphics than that. Hell, even my S3 with 5times weaker GPU than iPad 4 can run Epic citadel (a FAR better demo that the shown one) at 40-50fps Really lame, unprofessional iPad bashing there.

26. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

To be honest the graphics on my iPod Touch 4 (has A4 cpu) looks slightly better than that iPad demo. My sure today's tablets and phones must have far better graphic than my old iPod.

12. KingKurogiii

Posts: 5713; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

lol, what a dumb comparison. Imagination Technologies isn't exactly sitting around twiddling their thumbs waiting for something like this to pass them up. they're doing the work it takes to KEEP their lead with the SGX Rogue.

13. poopApple

Posts: 38; Member since: Apr 12, 2013

take that u rotten fruit!

14. ajac09

Posts: 1482; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

How about skip the tegra 4 and give the tegra 5 now that way in 2015 the tegra 7 = beyond anything out there at release

15. plattinum706

Posts: 11; Member since: Nov 30, 2012

Nvidia is so dumb at marketing. Why would anyone get the Tegra 4 when they are flaunting the Tegra 5. Now the competition has a clear picture of what Nvidia is bringing in 2015 and again they will be running last place.

17. darac

Posts: 2156; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

This is coming out next year, not in 2015.

16. jibraihimi

Posts: 816; Member since: Nov 29, 2011

Why we are not seeing any Tegra 4 based smartphones, or even rumuor about them.......??? Tegra 4 is good processor, and even benchmarks released have shown it's might, but why manufacturers are shying away from Tegra 4......??? Is Tegra 4's battery efficiency so bad........

19. grahaman27

Posts: 364; Member since: Apr 05, 2013

its lack of integrate LTE support of course.

20. FlushGordon unregistered

All talk..... ...sick of Nvidia's blah blah blah innovation

21. normedia1

Posts: 4; Member since: Apr 12, 2013

Show some respect for Nvidia. They single handled saved PC gaming and to some extent console gaming with their technology. Look all the companies that have come and gone from the PC graphics market S3, Matrox, Cirrus Logic, 3DFX, Matrox, Number9, Tseng Labs, Trident, Rendition. The only 2 companies to survive the 90s' and beyond were Nvidia and ATI. ATI would have gone the way of the dodo had AMD not bought them out. Nvidia started a graphics revolution with the Riva chipset which eventually evolved to TNT, TNT2 and so on. They basically CREATED the GPU as before the Geforce no graphic chipset had hardware T&L only a triangle setup engine assisting the main CPU. 3DFX was dying so they bought their assets and technology like Voodoo5's awesome rendering techniques along with SLI and the rest as they say is history. The only thing PowerVR will be remembered for is tiled based rendering, and having to flock to the mobile scene when the Dreamcast finally died. You cant argue with a pedigree like that. If Nvidia says they can achieve 2 teraflops of power from their next SoC, who are we to say otherwise. The other guys, ARM, PowerVR, Adreno cant touch Nvidia as far as graphics. Their technology not to mention wealth and resources are a different level.

22. FlushGordon unregistered

Makes you wonder why phone/tablet manufacturers are too reluctant to use their latest Tegra chip... Nvidia sucks at power effiiency...you can have all the gpu muscle in the world but it is close to being useless if it cannot utilize the provided battey properly well. TEGRA is an overrated POS

23. stealthd unregistered

You're comparing desktop graphics to mobile. In mobile, Nvidia has been behind in performance and features. It doesn't matter what their reputation for desktop graphics is when talking about mobile.

25. normedia1

Posts: 4; Member since: Apr 12, 2013

I think its safe to say we are all gamers, no? Otherwise we wouldnt care if the latest SoCs' had something as weak as S3 Virge. For the Tegra5 Nvidia will put actual Kepler cores in it and they will be unified so DX11 is a go. Now, I imagine it wont be GTX Titan but I think GT650 power isnt out of the question. Even the upcoming PowerVR 6 series will be less than Intel HD3000 power.

24. Memo214

Posts: 17; Member since: Apr 12, 2013

I hope they remember about LTE this time...

30. imkyle

Posts: 1116; Member since: Nov 18, 2010

The Tegra 4 isn't even released yet. Truthfully I really don't care about the Tegra 5 right now, I am curious to see the 4.

31. JojoGo101

Posts: 211; Member since: Dec 17, 2012

I have a GTX 660 but wow. Nvidia are stupid. There comparing a 2015 chip too a 2012 one. And look at this: You can bash iPhone and iPad all you want(I'd gladly help!) but they use the best GPUs. Android devices basically don't have the best GPU's. Nvidia, a GPU producer, should stop f'ing up mobile phones and make a GPU that can beast out Apple's chips.

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